Warhammer 40k

[Abella]

I know they make miniatures for those books but they never make any other miniatures for away covers Kane.
Also maybe really boring but I really wanna see a series that is set after all three of the heroes of the imperium
Ciaphas Cain Ibram Gaunt Sebastian Yarrick
aand the influence they had on the overall military structure of the commissariat but GW never seems to get the idea that if all of these men are heroes of the imperium the leadership styles would create 3 distinctive schools of thought.
Also really want them to bring back the half elves space marine chapters that would be a good series of books .
Either the overall background of your story doesn't matter and you can change it constantly which is something that really only seems to happen in western studios Japan really doesn't seem to do the same thing it's almost like European studios love insulting their own audience and chasing this magical modern audience that doesn't exist.
Hustle one minor annoying virtue signal changes like that is not gonna drive away your customers but they're gonna continue going down that path and it's eventually gonna do the same thing it did to Star Wars I don't know anybody who plays or like Star Wars and I'm not even that old when I was 20 everyone was raving about Star Wars now no one cares about it

I used to really despise the art for modern MtG and D&D 5e post 2015. It was always this sanitary visually unappealing woke pandering shit like the little black girl planeswalker that was somehow more powerful than everyone else. That was before I realized why they do all that. It’s not that they genuinely believe in it, but that the diversity and woke pandering widens the net to scoop up as much money as possible. All of this stuff is disingenuous, it’s not made for the old fans because they already own a lot of stuff and thus won’t go buy more unless they have to. It’s like them trying to make Vahl a pooner because they think doing so will get /even more/ people to buy into sisters. That’s all doubling down on femstodes was, that’s all female space marines would be if space marines weren’t already a subscription service.

All of this is to get the most amount of money with the littlest amount of effort possible. They made female guardsmen models for that reason. When they make pandering things like that, you’re going to have people going “you pandered to my sensibilities, now I will consume your product”, they’ll buy some stuff and then they’ll just lose interest after a while because they either suck at some part of the hobby and don’t want to get better, or they’ll go on to focus their interest on something else to consume.

The best thing about this is that most people don’t give a shit about Yarrick being gay. You talk to someone IRL and they’ll either not care or think you’re weird normally. The people at my LGS didn’t care about femstodes and even laughed at the idea of misters of battle. Those kinds of retcons are to get people like furries, troons and numales to buy things because they’re part of a demographic that is helplessly addicted to consuming products if they think the company includes their sensibilities.

 

[ChunkyKong]

Is it true that the Old Ones created the Tyranids to fight off the C'tan and Necrons ?

 

[p1138]

I'm gonna let you in on a little secret it's the worst kept secret especially in war gaming scenes I've worked on a few TTRPG's no one actually reads the flavour text.
I guarantee you the people who have certain armies know the information behind that army and that is it it also doesn't help that GW never actually sells any named characters from books besides gaunts ghosts
also custodians are not popular to begin with so it's really not going to affect anybody who plays them which is four people at this point

also the woke idiots are the tourists

1. Yes, people do read the flavor text. Hell, the people clamoring to continue paying for a codex every couple years use that as one of the excuses that GW needs to continue making the things.

2. What? Hell, they've discontinued dozens of characters this edition, updated some characters because they recently got books, and released other characters just because they could. The only army I can think of off the top of my head without anything you could really call a character, would be... GSC? Even fucking tyranids have characters now. Eldar just got 3 updated in the past couple of years? Custodes have 4 that are in books. Space marines... fuck they made a shitty boardgame just to release a character mini for Titus from the upcoming video game. Necrons got 2 updated recently. Orks in the past 3 years have had I believe 4? All you have to do is search by unit type, and filter for character for 40k. There's 255 of the damned things. Sure, not everything is a named character, but come on. https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/warhammer-40000/unit-type Shit, just a few days ago they showed off that fucking ugly Coteaz mini that the entire internet made fun of. Where are you getting this idea that GW never sells named characters from books?

3. Custodes aren't popular? After the balance data slate they went right back up to their usual 4% of the player population and right back to a win rate bouncing between 47-51% or so, because no one gave a shit about the femstodes crap. This is readily confirmable information, just from the tournament scene alone. The reason custodes player participation dropped(and still didn't hit the bottom) is because their codex was total shit. The character detachment actually works now, the shield host detachment isn't just a shitty waagh, talons actually works against dev and mortal wounds again, and null maidens is never going to see play outside of meme list bullshit like the guy that won a tourney a couple weeks back with a null maiden list that was really just Canis Rex and a pair of custodes tanks.

https://www.stat-check.com/the-meta

Ciaphas Cain Ibram Gaunt Sebastian Yarrick

Cain was already retired before the 42nd millenium started. Yarrick is dead. You seem to be fixated on guard, fine. But you were just complaining about only gaunts ghosts getting characters? Hell, guard just got a new character that is I guess also a high lord of Terra. Creed's daughter(ugly ass model, and terrible book). So even if the complaint were purely that guard isn't getting new characters, even that's patently false.

Who did you say the tourists were again? You're not reading the recent stuff. You're not keeping up with years old model releases. If you played you'd have at least stood a chance of running into these models on the table.

Also really want them to bring back the half elves space marine chapters that would be a good series of books .

LOL, not gonna happen with the way any of their writers are handling books for the foreseeable eternity.

Either the overall background of your story doesn't matter and you can change it constantly which is something that really only seems to happen in western studios Japan really doesn't seem to do the same thing it's almost like European studios love insulting their own audience and chasing this magical modern audience that doesn't exist.

Japan tends to end franchises, or makes things that are purely obvious successors(like the sentai and kamen rider shit that never ends), assuming they aren't doing the occasional remake.

Hustle one minor annoying virtue signal changes like that is not gonna drive away your customers but they're gonna continue going down that path and it's eventually gonna do the same thing it did to Star Wars I don't know anybody who plays or like Star Wars and I'm not even that old when I was 20 everyone was raving about Star Wars now no one cares about it

There's literally a SW Legion tournament at gencon this year, they just released a new version of Legion, and announced a product roadmap for it that extends into 2025. Clearly someone is buying it.

or are hopping ship to battletech.

Which cracks me up considering how pozzed battletech is. If someone moved to that for rules consistency, I'd get it. But claiming to do so because of woke shit in 40k? When the subreddit for battletech spends its time painting rainbow mechs, and making fanfics of alphabet gender characters? LOL

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Legitimately no one actually reads the flavor texts I asked someone once if they actually read any of the flavour text that put in TTRPG's and they don't
I mean I do but the vast majority of people these days really don't care about the role-playing aspects of RPG's I blame DND 5th edition.
And no one actually plays Star Wars war games or RPG's.
It's the same reason GW should stop trying to make a live action TV show maybe if they hired some half confident animators they could create better animated series I don't know why everything needs to be live action anime is worse off when it's live action everything when it comes to science fiction usually translates terribly to live action film

 

[p1138]

Legitimately no one actually reads the flavor texts I asked someone once if they actually read any of the flavour text that put in TTRPG's and they don't
I mean I do but the vast majority of people these days really don't care about the role-playing aspects of RPG's I blame DND 5th edition.

1 person is a poor sample. But yes, a lot of people don't read any of the background, especially for 5e because it doesn't exist for 5e. Their main setting, Faerun, the map their couple of adventures take place on is barely bigger than NYC or the Seattle metropolitan area and it's suburbs. The few setting books they do sell for shit like ravenloft are mostly focused on the strahd bullshit and random tables. Somehow people are supposed to use that poor example of a spelljammer book to create a campaign? I don't think so.

But back to GW, apparently they think enough people are interested in random blurbs about characters and shit that someone thought even this book needed to be printed https://www.dk.com/us/book/9780593847114-warhammer-40000-the-ultimate-guide/
And clearly there's an audience for lore videos, prompting GW to even make their own on the stupid warhammer+ subscription.

And no one actually plays Star Wars war games or RPG's.

There isn't a current RPG being marketed. The FFG SW RPG ended a few years back, got a couple books reprinted and that's about it. Because they ran out of material due to it being a licensed game.

 

[Abella]

Hopping onto Battletech to get away from woke shit is retarded, but I never say anything to those types and I’m someone who genuinely likes battletech.

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

Is it true that the Old Ones created the Tyranids to fight off the C'tan and Necrons ?

That was a head cannon I came up with about a dozen pages back or so. Effectively wiping the whole milky way clean before starting over. Are people actually running with that outside of the farms or has some new lore dropped somewhere that I do t know about? I need to know!!!

 

[AncientPhosphur]

Is it true that the Old Ones created the Tyranids to fight off the C'tan and Necrons ?

That would be retarded. Necrons were already in metal at that point and iirc Nids avoid tomb worlds because there’s no biomass to consume.

I guarantee you the people who have certain armies know the information behind that army and that is it it also doesn't help that GW never actually sells any named characters from books besides gaunts ghosts

Most people are just in it for armies and WAAC sometimes. You’ll get people invested in the lore but if you look at guys like Poorhammer, who I feel are a good portion of players, it’s more about painting and playing the tabletop and all the lore stuff is just for flavor.

They do sell characters from books outside of gaunt’s ghosts

Where’s my kill team rules list for them GW? You can’t make a small squad of them and have named characters and not put them into your small squad skirmish game! (I use intercessor rules).

 

[Abella]

Most people are just in it for armies and WAAC sometimes. You’ll get people invested in the lore but if you look at guys like Poorhammer, who I feel are a good portion of players, it’s more about painting and playing the tabletop and all the lore stuff is just for flavor.

WAAC shit has been a major part of 10th edition, especially with the reddit crowd obsessed with the metagame.

Where’s my kill team rules list for them GW? You can’t make a small squad of them and have named characters and not put them into your small squad skirmish game! (I use intercessor rules).

I wish you could just use regular 40k models.

 

[Second Missing Primarch]

Cain was already retired before the 42nd millenium started.

Cain kept getting pulled back onto active duty for one reason or another even after he'd retired. The chronologically last book in the series, Cain's Last Stand, had him returning to Perlia from another stint fighting tyranids or something right before the 13th Black Crusade blew up, and you can't tell me the Imperium wouldn't be looking to put one of its greatest heroes/propaganda figures back into harness once the Great Rift had opened. They could absolutely crank out a Cain and Jurgen 2-pack along with a new book where he accidentally saves Guilliman from some Chaos plot or other. Pair it with a limited rerelease of the old Ice Warriors minis and I bet they'd make a mint.

 

[p1138]

Cain kept getting pulled back onto active duty for one reason or another even after he'd retired. The chronologically last book in the series, Cain's Last Stand, had him returning to Perlia from another stint fighting tyranids or something right before the 13th Black Crusade blew up, and you can't tell me the Imperium wouldn't be looking to put one of its greatest heroes/propaganda figures back into harness once the Great Rift had opened. They could absolutely crank out a Cain and Jurgen 2-pack along with a new book where he accidentally saves Guilliman from some Chaos plot or other. Pair it with a limited rerelease of the old Ice Warriors minis and I bet they'd make a mint.

So he's not in the pariah nexus(that's kinda nearby in the nephilim sector?)
He's not near the path of the current hive fleet leviathan incursion
He's not in imperium nihilus
He's not running around with Cawl(and having him do so wouldn't be an improvement to anything)
He's not Cadian, so doesn't have any involvement with New Cadia(that's over by Agripinaa, which is still basically right next to Cadia)
He wasn't involved with the dead end plot on terra about the golden throne
He's not part of the indomitus fleet(because wrong end of the galaxy again)
He's on the wrong end of the galaxy to get involved in whatever Ghazghkull ends up doing once he learns Yarrick is dead

Since basically nothing is happening in the corner of the galaxy he's currently in, it's pretty unlikely he'd get dragged out of retirement for the 3rd or 4th time and have any involvement in current events. Heck, the fact that he was still on Perlia during the 13th black crusade just kinda shows that not everything got dragged over there, or even during the demon invasion on Terra that girlyman arrived just in time to stop. Also, while he's obviously known within the Damocles Gulf, outside of it? Probably a nobody and I'm pretty sure that was either brought up by himself or Vale at some point in the books. Also, it isn't that he returned to Perlia, he's stationed as a "retired" instructor at the scholam there training more commissars and had to deal with the rinkydink chaos "fleet" that showed up after Cadia fell(the one led by the midget mutant that could mind control people with his voice).

Ya know, considering this Sargon's Wife's Son guy swears no one reads the flavor/lore/whatever, it's odd that we can have a discussion about it... anyway

I guess it's possible that GW eventually releases a mini for Cain once they're finally done with that series? But having him interact with anything else going on in 40k seems like a hell of a stretch unless something happens to blow up the pseudo stalemate between the imperium and tau in the damocles gulf. Short of The Lion doing his stupid forest walk thing and ending up on Perlia for no reason, I just don't see Cain involved in anything major making sense. I guess something could happen with the squats over there? But they still barely have their own lore at this point, they got a short story that was mostly about Necrons.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

Rant time.

I’ve been watching Mountain Tabletop kill team videos. I just want to say I hate their painting schemes. It’s all ugly. I know they’re your dudes but it’s just terrible. Awful. I don’t know where they get their idea for painting minis but it’s just trash. Their Night Lord Legionaries were color schemed right



But that was only because they were someone else’s, their actual Nemesis Claw was clean yet subpar. Inspired nothing.




They also have that annoy millennial ironic Reddit humor I fucking hate and one of the guys has this annoying laugh. And they keep shilling their patreon constantly it ruins the flow of their game videos.

They can do all solid colors well enough



The Arbites are basic, could use some more color. I’d use rhinox hide on the holster and maybe a grey on the mid uniform the armor doesn’t cover to break it up visually a bit. The Death Guard show some work. Feel like they need a wash or something to add some grit.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

 

[StevieLasVegas]

Looking at their title cards, I see what you mean. I'm no expert painter whatsoever thanks to my unsteady hands, but something about their mini comes off as flat or horrendous (purple is my favorite color, but those Votann and Ork units look sad). The Arbites in your picture come across as unfinished minis with the gratuitous black across their entire model.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

So he's not in the pariah nexus(that's kinda nearby in the nephilim sector?)
He's not near the path of the current hive fleet leviathan incursion
He's not in imperium nihilus
He's not running around with Cawl(and having him do so wouldn't be an improvement to anything)
He's not Cadian, so doesn't have any involvement with New Cadia(that's over by Agripinaa, which is still basically right next to Cadia)
He wasn't involved with the dead end plot on terra about the golden throne
He's not part of the indomitus fleet(because wrong end of the galaxy again)
He's on the wrong end of the galaxy to get involved in whatever Ghazghkull ends up doing once he learns Yarrick is dead

I was talking about the influence on the overall command structure of the imperium and how commissaries are portrayed in the overall setting not about having them be in the same region that would be impossible.
The same way other influential military leaders have had influence on the overall state of warfare having Napoleon standardize the use of massed artillery to break up enemy formations

also all three characters are canonically dead

they're never going to do it but I would also really want to see a war in heaven book you could have so many cool scenes with that seeing how the technology at that time

also the imperium of man would never tolerate fags
the fact of the matter is homosexualities inherently a deviant behavior the vast majority of homosexuals can't keep it in the pants they would be the easiest people to corrupt by the Prince of pleasure.

Also GW really should have an imperial guard unit based off of Zulu warriors but they're never gonna do that because that would be a good idea and that would actually be good example of how to actually create new interesting units.

You can make them assault specialists rely on close in weapons and heavy Shields ,

you can also make them excellent scouts due to the fact that the zulus with some of the fastest warriors in Africa just no match for Brits with semi automatic weapons and artillery.

 

[p1138]

The amazon series getting cancelled was a blessing in disguise, mark my words

GW literally just announced they've still got 6 months to work out the details for a series, and that amazon has an option to also make a fantasy series. Where are you getting that this is cancelled from?

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

I desperately want the series to be cancelled I also want everyone involved in critical role there fall off a bridge

 

[The tired cat]

GW literally just announced they've still got 6 months to work out the details for a series, and that amazon has an option to also make a fantasy series. Where are you getting that this is cancelled from?

The sources being every grifting mouthbreathing faggot, who else.

 

[p1138]

The sources being every grifting mouthbreathing faggot, who else.

Right... I'm sure somehow that GW announcing they're still working out details during the allotted remaining time somehow means it was cancelled, especially in a document where the contents are subject to regulation by the government due to being related to public trading. Fucking brainless grifters.

 

[The tired cat]

Fucking brainless grifters.

I mean, if grifters had any brains there wouldn't be so many of 'em on youtube in the 1st place.

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

Right... I'm sure somehow that GW announcing they're still working out details during the allotted remaining time somehow means it was cancelled, especially in a document where the contents are subject to regulation by the government due to being related to public trading. Fucking brainless grifters.

What better title for a video then "Henry Cavell quits show" or "Amazon TV deal cancelled with GW". I've been seeing videos for months saying that Henry Cavell has walked out on Amazon or GW yet its been reported nowhere.
I have a genuine disdain for those people and their channels and if the show is actually good they'll start licking corporate boot immediately because they're as mindless a consumer as the the soy boys they so often cry about. At this point I wonder if Cavell regrets letting his love for Warhammer be known considering how many people use his name and face for nothing more then SEO these days.