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Last I recall, Harlequins haven't had much updates in 10th edition so GW pretty much went "Fuck it! Put 'em with the Eldar", plus I seem to recall not many even played Harlequins in 9th edition.
Harlequins were incredibly broken for a few months in 9th, and is why the "dedicated transports have to start with something in them" became a rule. The reality is, it's a sub faction with 3 units, 4 characters, and a transport. That doesn't need to be anything beyond a detachment for eldar in 10th, and they confirmed they're getting a harlequins focused detachment.
DW on the other hand is getting something in December so they'll still be playable as an actual army instead of just as an attachment because they got fucked in the imperial agents codex.
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When hasn't he, really? He's always just done fucked-up shit because he can to the point even the Haemonculi decided his rather childish attempts at imitating true art, much like a child trying to draw the Mona Lisa with crayons, were oddly endearing.
And he outright refuses to worship Slaanesh, to boot! He's just an obsessive egotist who thinks he can do what the Emperor and the Emperor's finest scientists could not... and he's not exactly wrong in that belief.
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The core rules team at GW are custodes players, so when Harlequins came out on top of the competitive meta they lobbied hard to have their whole faction stricken. Harlequin can now exist as both craftworlds or dark eldar detachments but their whole troupe detachment rules was reworked. This doesn't bother me at all since lorewise they are indeed their own thing, cruising along the webway as they see fit. Every craftworld welcomes them and even Vect knows better than to try to fuck with them, so they get carte blanche passage through Commorragh.
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Excited to see all the two local TC players be kicked out of their local FLGS because the nun, the breaking wheel torture shrine or the satanic SS squadron and their funky fetus scared away little jimmy and his mother's money
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Seems like MajorKill also jumped on the Trench Crusade train.
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Discourse Minis is a clickbaiting faggot. Their videos are all shit tier nothing burgers desperate for attention. They acts like a spas on camera and considers that a personality.
Yeah, I also saw a kirioth thumbnail for a video where he fangirls about the lore or whatever the hell for it.
GW is not my friend, and I'm not a friend of their's. I'd like to see someone knock them down a peg with a system that actually gets played, but this astroturf for trench crusade is way too obvious, and it's fucking cringe. They'd have been better off having these youtube channels actually stagger this shit out over the course of a couple of months instead of flooding the platform over the span of a couple of weeks.
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I was reading on /tg/ a while back that things were not looking as promised with Trench Crusade. It's either been co-opted by troons, or they were always troons that hid themselves well. Personally I hope it's the latter as I had no intentions of playing, but I understand how this degeneracy has upset some people. In the end I really hope that troons just go all in with this game, and leave 40k for the rest of us.
As a side note to the previous discussions about Fabius Bile and female space marines: for those who still want it or are "playing devil's advocate" please refer to the following flow charts. The first is straightforward, and the second one is really for those who can't help themselves.
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The only one that can take down GW is GW. If you want to replace 40k you have to do what WoW did 20 years ago. You have to be the cool new kid on the block and be baby's first wargame. 40k is like star wars. It's soft and marketable. You can take your kids to the Warhammer section of the store. Nobody is taking their kids to look at Trench Crusade models. If your wargame looked like Valorant, or anime girls with guns, kids would be into it. If your game becomes popular with kids they will grow up to be adults with disposable income. 40k becomes a Boomer wargame that your Dad used to play.
I don't think there is much room for army sized wargames in the near future. Kids can't afford 50+ models that are tiny and fragile. You need chunky Amiibo models that double as collectable figures. The hobby aspect would have to get cut in favor of premade models out of the box. Equipment might be sold separately as upgrades that snap in. You can resell the same model in different skins since kids will be too lazy to paint or model it themselves. Maybe you make money selling terrain too.
Whatever comes next to replace 40k is not going to be anything anyone here is going to enjoy. That's just the reality of it. 40k but better is a failed concept because the people who want a better 40k are, quite frankly, too old to matter.
I don't think there is much room for army sized wargames in the near future. Kids can't afford 50+ models that are tiny and fragile. You need chunky Amiibo models that double as collectable figures. The hobby aspect would have to get cut in favor of premade models out of the box. Equipment might be sold separately as upgrades that snap in. You can resell the same model in different skins since kids will be too lazy to paint or model it themselves. Maybe you make money selling terrain too.
Whatever comes next to replace 40k is not going to be anything anyone here is going to enjoy. That's just the reality of it. 40k but better is a failed concept because the people who want a better 40k are, quite frankly, too old to matter.
Krieg? Aside from obviuosly taking from ww1 instead of ww2... they're french. The blue coats, pinning the bottoms of the coats back. The wraps around the bottom of the pants. That's ww1 french.
So basically.. Infinity. Which I heard is getting some animated thing.
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Surprise surprise. The discord mods are drunk on power again.
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For a while "people" were calling Krieg a dogwhistle alongside Black Templar. Because the average faggot looks at Krieg (which are predominently influenced by WWI French uniforms) and see SS troops, anyone who plays them is a Nazi. They of course ignore that the Imperium is an Authoritarian Dictatorship that is far worse than any Fascist government of the early 1900s.
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Never heard of it. Will look into it.
Ok so you were just going off of what retards think, got it. And yeah, unfortunately they're still retarded and think that.
Yeah, it's a cyberpunk kind of sci-fi skirmish game thing(there was also a board game kinda version at one point Aristeia or something) made by Corvus Belli. Been around for a few years and I think they're on version 5 or something now. They've got an app use it for match data for balance and dropping things when they see no one is actually playing them, Minis in metal and plastic, a pretty huge variety of factions, uses standardized silhouettes for line of sight. Seems to borrow a bit from Mass Effect, has some transhumanism thing like ghost in the shell about copying people into new bodies, doesn't have a bunch of aliens in the way 40 does but they've still got a faction of them, a formerly lost colony of space americans/europeans or whatever, it has a bunch of lore.
My understanding is that it's had some popularity in Europe for a few years, with some ups and downs in North America, and this year Corvus Belli decided to release their "Warcrow" fantasy skirmish game but uses proprietary dice like they're something made by Asmodee. At any rate, if they're making a push into other media now it basically fits the anime looking scifi skirmish game with a lower required model count that a younger audience might be more interested in.
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Ah yes, the game that people hailed as anti-woke and the new 40k during the whole female custodes thing, just for the people behind it to double down and deny it being anti-woke, thus turning quite a few people away from it.#
This game will be niche at best.
lol. lmao even.
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And let it. Get the retards out of my hobby.
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No, that's not right, is it?
During the FemStodes thing people just happened to notice this new wargame by the Mordheim creator with art by the guy who invented the Grimdark style that 40k used to use being posted to Twitter. Everyone got excited and started looking into it and got more excited when it turned out not to be a mobile game and was basically Mordheim 2: Heim Harder. This was going to happen at any time it was posted and went viral, the timing just lined up.
The discord the company used was the discord of 28mag, an infrequent indie zine about Wargaming. They reached out and were like "Hey, Trench Crusade looks really awesome, want to crash on our couch?" And TC started using their discord. There may have been more of a connection between the two than that in the background, but as far as I can tell that's the gist of what happened -- TC was getting going, 28mag was like "oh we'll help" and TC took them up on the offer.
The problem is, the 28mag guys are your bog standard progressive faggots pretending to be Indie DIY scene kids. Basically a bunch of idiots playing Punk Rock Cargo Cult. To wit, the issue of 28 mag they put out when all this was going down had a huge section devoted to just how important representation is in gaming and how it's VITAL that they force GW to make Female Space Marines because doing so would drive the right kind of people out of the hobby.
Pictured Above: Your average 28mag team member, shortly before the bouncer kicks her teeth in for putting up posters without permission again
Anyway. Suddenly you have a bunch of people who like GW seeing the one really good specialist game -- Mordheim is so good that the community actually kept it going after GW screwed the pooch -- being recreated in an honestly interesting (WW1 with demons?) setting, and people started visiting the discord. The problem is, 28mag wanted to gatekeep access to the new game and decide who got to be a fan of the game and who didn't. They didn't want the kind of "chuds" in the community that would dare disagree with the left to be "allowed" in the hobby. So they started harassing people, banning people from the discord that they recognized off Twitter then banning anyone who complained.
It got bad enough that a fan discord was created, the TC guys came out and said a blanket "we trust the 28mag team's discord mods"... but then removed all connection from TC to 28mag's discord off their website. In the end they created their own TC discord. Now, are the mods the same from the 28mag days? If so, they're not purging people as hard, although on page 1024 there's someone talking about an incident this week of them purging someone over stupid lefty shit, so who knows?
The discord the company used was the discord of 28mag, an infrequent indie zine about Wargaming. They reached out and were like "Hey, Trench Crusade looks really awesome, want to crash on our couch?" And TC started using their discord. There may have been more of a connection between the two than that in the background, but as far as I can tell that's the gist of what happened -- TC was getting going, 28mag was like "oh we'll help" and TC took them up on the offer.
The problem is, the 28mag guys are your bog standard progressive faggots pretending to be Indie DIY scene kids. Basically a bunch of idiots playing Punk Rock Cargo Cult. To wit, the issue of 28 mag they put out when all this was going down had a huge section devoted to just how important representation is in gaming and how it's VITAL that they force GW to make Female Space Marines because doing so would drive the right kind of people out of the hobby.
Pictured Above: Your average 28mag team member, shortly before the bouncer kicks her teeth in for putting up posters without permission again
Anyway. Suddenly you have a bunch of people who like GW seeing the one really good specialist game -- Mordheim is so good that the community actually kept it going after GW screwed the pooch -- being recreated in an honestly interesting (WW1 with demons?) setting, and people started visiting the discord. The problem is, 28mag wanted to gatekeep access to the new game and decide who got to be a fan of the game and who didn't. They didn't want the kind of "chuds" in the community that would dare disagree with the left to be "allowed" in the hobby. So they started harassing people, banning people from the discord that they recognized off Twitter then banning anyone who complained.
It got bad enough that a fan discord was created, the TC guys came out and said a blanket "we trust the 28mag team's discord mods"... but then removed all connection from TC to 28mag's discord off their website. In the end they created their own TC discord. Now, are the mods the same from the 28mag days? If so, they're not purging people as hard, although on page 1024 there's someone talking about an incident this week of them purging someone over stupid lefty shit, so who knows?
All this really killed the game's momentum back then. I'm surprised to see all the shills suddenly talking about it. I don't know if it's just the shills on youtube hitting the same hype wave that the 28mag faggots ruined earlier for the rest of the community, or if TC is taking some of that 3.5 million and paying for attention. Hell all they'd really need to do is give freebies out, to be honest, so who knows?
Probably a little bit of everything. Paid by the TC people, given some freebies, and others just wanting to post videos to jump on the hype for views.
And of course the fucking TC discord has jannies going out of control again...