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THIS DISAPOINTMENT PLEASES SLAANESH
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StarCraft 1 was great. Southerners in space. Absolutely loved how you got this book that had a ton of lore in it while you had Terran flying confederacy flags. A shame SC2 took a shit all over SC1 and multiplayer is just a hyper autistic clickfest. I also liked the Terran Marine design better than 40k Space Marines.
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1d4chan is just internet autist sperging, as funny as it is.
So do not take it at face value.
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“SUFFAH GUARDFAGS, SUFFAH FOR SLAANESH BISCH! GLORY TO THE HONOURABLE THIRD.”
-Brother Ethanicus Oliverus Ralph, Emperor’s Children 51st Company, 1st Assault Squadron. Notice the decadent colours favoured by the increasingly eratic marines in the legion.
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I love this timeloop. Let me go grab something to drink first!
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removing generic units and instead replacing them with different planet specific versions is retarded.
No one thinks of their guard army as some hodgepodge of different planets armies, no they think of their army as the krieg 347th regiment or the cadian 8th.
now instead your guard army will have catachan basic infantry, krieg heavy weapons, attillan rough riders and cadian kasyrkin, it wont look like a uniformed army, it will instead look like your a kid just pulling all your action figures out of the box and playing with whatever.
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Do the chaos gods exist outside the milky way galaxy? I know the Immaterium runs parallel no matter where in the universe you are, but if any faction ever developed a way to fuck off to another galaxy would there still be Slaanesh demons? Would it be a whole new pantheon of gods? Or is it sort of like how Khorne can take many forms but only cares that the blood flows? If the gods exist outside of our galaxy then why do they care so much about ours? Sure they may draw a lot of strength from ours but across the infinite expanse of the universe there must be countless other galaxies they draw power from.
So The Silent King went beyond the galaxy, found tyranids, and came back. There's also a pre imperium probe that's been beaming back things about orks for 15,000 years. There was also a description given a few years back... can't remember what faction it was, but the warp was much calmer the further outside you get.
While the galaxy and warp are infinite, GW has generally implied everything going on in 40k is local to the galaxy it takes place in. No khorne worshippers beyond the galactic rim? Nothing going on, no power there, etc. If I were a speculative lore youtube channel, this is where I'd point out that it means it's possible that other galaxies have their own bubble of BS going on in the warp, and theirs may not be as fucked as ours got due to the War in Heaven between the Necrons and The Old Ones, or potentially worse. Additionally, since the powers of the warp as we know them(the chaos gods) don't even go deep within the warp themselves, that could very well mean the "deep warp" is similar to the empty expanse between galaxies(or possibly the actual link between dimensions like 40k and WFB, but I've never seen anything that would particularly support this). All of that being said, I wouldn't ever expect much from GW about this unless for some weird reason they actually wanted to clarify the origin of the tyranids some day(did they come from another galaxy, were they just waiting outside the galaxy before the activation of the pharos device, did the old ones put them there, did they leave a different galaxy after scouring it of biomatter, etc) and I don't think that's going to happen any time soon.
Remember, there were pantheons of warp gods(the old ones potentially, the eldar gods, gork and mork, etc.) before and while the chaos gods exist in the warp. Unfortunately the best shot at more expansion on this would have been the Ynnari storyline that GW cut short before the third novel.
The next best shot at GW clarifying anything about anything beyond the galaxy would be The Silent King apparently showing up in the 9th Dawn of Fire book(named The Silent King) but that series has been so fucking all over the place I doubt they'd have time to get into anything that interesting in any meaningful way in one book.
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Hey guys, a new Hammer and Bolter trailer is here, and it involves the Guard! So guess what shows up despite it being completely retarded and nonsensical?
Of fucking course.
GW... you blew it the fuck up. You can't. I'd ask if they forgot about Elysians, Salvar Chem Dogs, etc, because the Guard is officially Ultramarine levels of overused. It's like Cadians, Kriegers, and... actually they have used any other regiments to any fanfare? Not counting those goofy ass Solar Auxiliaries.
Of fucking course.
GW... you blew it the fuck up. You can't. I'd ask if they forgot about Elysians, Salvar Chem Dogs, etc, because the Guard is officially Ultramarine levels of overused. It's like Cadians, Kriegers, and... actually they have used any other regiments to any fanfare? Not counting those goofy ass Solar Auxiliaries.
They already did. It was a novel called "Ashes of Cadia" where.. ffs I hated this one..
Ursula Creed, Creed's daughter, 20-ish or so years later, gets a mission to go back to cadia to retrieve a super weapon to save the imperium. Not only are there massive intact chunks of cadia, and there's still power, there's still a whole fucking generation of cadian survivors now including children. The vault, Creed predicted his daughter would hit the rank of castellan or whatever and be sent there for some fucking reason, so she finds the real vault and it's just a data crystal with coordinates for a potential New Cadia for her to found. She cries because she realizes her father cared and it was her mother that was a cunt. There's a love story between Ursula and a medic that was in a penal legion. The cadian kids get rescued. Some colonel with them is gay and tricks the group to visit his house(that's still standing) so they do that for a bit so he can reminisce about his husband and adopted kids. There's another plot of another penal legionnaire that gets pissed when they surprised the cadian scouting party, the ogryn with them gets shot by a sniper because they spooked them, so she turns traitor and decides to assist the lone remaining death guard marine on the planet, so the group of adventurers can spend most of the story running from them like a fucking scooby doo villain. Did I forget to mention the only reason the mission was even difficult and they couldn't just get easily picked up by their ship was due to the weather? Yeah, it's fucking stupid.
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Oh my God, why
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I can only assume because at this point they can't just move the fuck on or maybe someone thought it was a good idea?
BY THE WAY, I think I forgot to mention in that stupid fucking book... well I guess I did say there were weather issues. But more importantly... the planet still has a breathable atmosphere. Yeah, I'm just going to let the stupidity of that sink in for you.
edit: Even more stupidly this means there is basically nothing stopping the imperium or just the cadians themselves from taking it back, or even just fucking towing it elsewhere for that matter.
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My Warhammer friend group was not aware of this readable lobotomy, so at the very least it gave me some kind of entertainment, But in all seriousness, this is just... dreadful.
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Tyranids I expected but Orks? How the hell would Orks manage to escape the galaxy? They're a local species. Unless the implication is the Old Ones planted them outside the galaxy, but why?
Cadians are going to be the new Dark Angels and create a fleet around the last rock of Cadia. I think Steel Legion is pretty popular. I'm surprised they never did anything with them.
Yeah... I dunno. I guess the main consideration would be that orks have been around for 60-65 million years or so, and were originally krorks so with enough time having basically devolved into soccer hooligans, just kinda spread out? They aren't like the eldar who would have at least been intelligent enough to go "nothing out there, can't get to the next one, no point in bothering". At any rate, it's usually in ork codexes. Here it is from page 25 of the 8th edition codex. It doesn't say how far it is, where it is, or even if it's left the galaxy yet, presumably it would have if it were pre-imperial. So no idea.
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Look, that's fair. It would kinda look retarded.
I was talking about specialisation of units. Offensive, defensive, utility, anti-infantty, anti-tank, objective infantry, terrain infantry etc.
I dont have very strong feelings on it tbh. Its more looking at GW half arsing it
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I mean the issue had always been that unlike marines, in order to make a krieg/valhallan/mordian etc etc range of models, theyd need to effectively make them for every guard infantry model they sold, for it not to look retarded. (as i stated in my previous post)
so command squads, infantry squads, rough riders, scout sentinels, heavy weapons teams, and veteran squads (i.e kasyrkn) thats also not factoring in the abhumans who currently are modeled in cadianesq equipment
thats a lot of models to produce for no real reason besides grogs being mad they cant play the special snowflake regiments like marines can (ignoring the obvious thing that the main difference between a dark angel and a space wolf besides colour scheme can be put on a single sprue they can flog to you)
Its only now that geedubs has said fuck it guard armys just get to look like you vomited out their guard range onto the table. so it wouldnt surprise me if in the future when they redo the chimera that they will make some steel legion dorks to sit in it.
This is absolutely the issue. There's been greybeard grognard guard players for ages bitching about how they want unique special snowflake rules for cadians, catachans, valhallans, vostroyans, krieg, mordians, steel legion, praetorians, and on and on and it was never going to be possible for GW or any company to have all of that in production all at once.
So instead they just made basic ass cadians the default and told everyone to just use the detachments/army/whatever rules are in the codex. So what happened? More people bitching nonstop about how all the models are always cadians, cadian this and that.
Ok, fine. Refresh cadians, refresh krieg, probably have a catachan refresh coming for 11th, they're the most popular models, krieg is now plastic too, give them all unique rules and they'll be happy. No they're not happy because now the generic squads people were running and pretending were mordians or whatever, or the mordian STLs or recasts they've been buying the past few years can't be proxied as generic squads so now there's more outrage even though there's more specific support for more regiments. And of course for the tournament scene the "counts as" thing GW put at the end of the warcom article isn't a rule so you'll get people claiming their 3 different generic looking squads are one of each regiments squads which the tournament organizers aren't going to put up with, now enraging even more guard players.
Honestly at this point I bet GW wishes they could hit the damned reset button just for guard, re-launch the entire thing as cadian uniforms only, and tell people from the start to just treat them like fucking space marines in different colors. No matter what GW does, there's going to be a contingent of the guard players just universally bitching about one thing or another with unreasonable demands, and no compromise GW comes up with will ever settle it. Primaris guard, they all have the same uniforms now, problem solved.
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GW could probably primaris-ify guard by printing generic bodies then adding unique add ons. All cadian bases, with like 6 different upgrade sprues. At the end of the day, the Imperial Guard is a military force. Seems kind of odd they have different uniforms for baseline units that arent in different roles. You could also easily slap on a gas mask and rebreather pack and call it a Krieger, or print sleeveless/torn sleeves and a bandana and call it a Catachan. If GW was feeling extra based they could sell the upgrade sprues as a seperate box, so you either build CHADians or fork up the dough. Ive heard Space Marines called the subscription service, but you could build a 2000 point SM list for ~$500 if you really get lucky and arent too picky. Guard is a certified mortgage payment if you want anything other than tanks.
Or, you know, they could ignore the Fudds of the Warhammer hobby. Whatever works.
Or, you know, they could ignore the Fudds of the Warhammer hobby. Whatever works.