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Heard patch 7 dropped for Space Marine 2, decided to give it a try. I really like scoped heavy bolt rifle, feels a lot better when popping heads. Bolt carbines > melta rifle on vanguard, even the oculus one. Grinding prestige perks sucks major balls though. Also lots of bugs that weren't fixed in the public test version so what's even the point of it when you can hire a competent QA team to do it better.
 
YumeNoHero said:
Heard patch 7 dropped for Space Marine 2, decided to give it a try. I really like scoped heavy bolt rifle, feels a lot better when popping heads. Bolt carbines > melta rifle on vanguard, even the oculus one. Grinding prestige perks sucks major balls though. Also lots of bugs that weren't fixed in the public test version so what's even the point of it when you can hire a competent QA team to do it better.
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Yeah I uninstalled that shit after trying the public test and seeing that they were going to keep the prestige mechanic as it is. Grinding all of the classes back to max 4 times to get the perks with a whole 10% extra xp boost per grind? No thanks. That only exists as an engagement mechanic so they can keep people playing once they're bored of running the new mission a few times, until they can get another level out the door in 3 months.
 
So, I am kinda eyeballing Necromunda at the moment. If anyone is up to shill their favorite gang, I am currently willing to turn a blind eye to my ever-growing pile of shame.
 
Coon Cheese said:
5th edition is probably peak for 40k (ignoring the meta builds you can find online because no one other then troons and friendless never game faggots ran that shit)
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Oh? 3rd ed guy myself. I've been curious about 4, 5, and 6. Especially the revision where they fixed arguments over which side of a tank you hit. Did they include army lists in the core books like 3rd (and Bolt Action).
 
Judge Dredd said:
Oh? 3rd ed guy myself. I've been curious about 4, 5, and 6. Especially the revision where they fixed arguments over which side of a tank you hit. Did they include army lists in the core books like 3rd (and Bolt Action).
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I do like third... however! you cannot run in third edition. also, the vehicles rules are kind of a meme/mess. I did a third edition game mid-way through last year, I was chaos (the chaos 3rd edition codex is peak chaos space marine. period there is no comparison 10/10 God tier every army book should have that amount of customization and variation) I had a rhino, and it just wouldn't die. it took around 10 multi melta shots and it kept on driving. it was so funny he would shoot it every turn, and it would just not blow up or stop. unkillable metal box.

There aren't army rules in the core rules for 4th, 5th and 6th. but you can find all the old codexs easily on internet archive and on /TG/ when it wasn't dead. 5th is good... however if you play nids or chaos you're gonna have a real bad time. their books a so shit it's unreal. i had a 5th edition game where 8 tau pathfinders beat to death 3 obliterators. and that's the time when obliterators and mutilators were the same model. chaos would just get ass raped by everything. and nids just had a shit book, points cost too high and models just too weak.
 
TingoFranDingo said:
So, I am kinda eyeballing Necromunda at the moment. If anyone is up to shill their favorite gang, I am currently willing to turn a blind eye to my ever-growing pile of shame.
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Cawdor for me. Good aesthetics (heavy on the grimdank), cheap gangers, some spicy equipment, KLOVIS THE REDEEMER, bomb rats (comedy/terror, depending on your luck, don't let WAACfags talk you out of taking them), if you like throwing blast templates around; this is your gang.
 
p1138 said:
Yeah I uninstalled that shit after trying the public test and seeing that they were going to keep the prestige mechanic as it is. Grinding all of the classes back to max 4 times to get the perks with a whole 10% extra xp boost per grind? No thanks. That only exists as an engagement mechanic so they can keep people playing once they're bored of running the new mission a few times, until they can get another level out the door in 3 months.
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I mean the weird part is the last difficulty gives you a lot of experience but it’s effectively useless since you need to max level to do it.

I suspect those Russians see people don’t like increases to difficulty so they are going to War Thunder/Tarkov route and wanna see if people will grind for days.
 
I hate this new dev cycle for games. Slowly over time we are being made to expect less and less. A new slightly different shade of blue and red?! Holy shit I gotta get the boys together! And you're telling me there a single new mission? Please stop, my dick can only get so hard.

This is embarrassing that people still want to defend this game and use "it's a free update you should be grateful". Yeah I paid a fucking arm and a leg for the game. It came out with barely any content, it aught to be free. If it's taking them several months to make a single mission that's only maybe 20mins long max then they are doing something very very wrong and wasting their time on stuff that doesn't matter. This prestige system is more evidence that they don't care, they don't want to or aren't capable of making content so why not make players replay the same thing endlessly and call that content.
 
Back on my I want I want to like Necromunda because I enjoy small unit warfare tabletop but the whole gang warfare thing seems so… bleh for 40K mentally. Probably just my Dark Heresy playthroughs bleeding through but mentally I feel like playing as some gang bumping off rivals is so uninspiring to play. Like so what you’re offing a rival gang for a pair of space Jordans? Just as an escapist fantasy I’m held back by that.
 
Spilled Spaghett said:
I hate this new dev cycle for games. Slowly over time we are being made to expect less and less. A new slightly different shade of blue and red?! Holy shit I gotta get the boys together! And you're telling me there a single new mission? Please stop, my dick can only get so hard.

This is embarrassing that people still want to defend this game and use "it's a free update you should be grateful". Yeah I paid a fucking arm and a leg for the game. It came out with barely any content, it aught to be free. If it's taking them several months to make a single mission that's only maybe 20mins long max then they are doing something very very wrong and wasting their time on stuff that doesn't matter. This prestige system is more evidence that they don't care, they don't want to or aren't capable of making content so why not make players replay the same thing endlessly and call that content.
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These things would be a lot easier to stomach if it released at a budget (~40ish USD) price, the fact that the "deluxe" bundle goes for over $100 is absolutely insane.
 
So where exactly are /tg/ refugees going? I checked both 8chans and their /tg/ boards are rock bottom with barely any posts. Was 4chans /tg/ really actually a bunch of bots and schizos going at it?
 
iceteayo said:
So where exactly are /tg/ refugees going? I checked both 8chans and their /tg/ boards are rock bottom with barely any posts. Was 4chans /tg/ really actually a bunch of bots and schizos going at it?
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Probably Twitter or Reddit along with the rest of 4chan they might even migrate to dakkadakka since it's still the largest tabletop forum still open.
 
I know next to nothing of substance about the Night Lords, never engaged with them, but decided to give Soul Hunter a shot. I'm throughly enjoying it so far, and it's looking like I might be getting the other two books at this rate.
Spilled Spaghett said:
I hate this new dev cycle for games. Slowly over time we are being made to expect less and less. A new slightly different shade of blue and red?! Holy shit I gotta get the boys together! And you're telling me there a single new mission? Please stop, my dick can only get so hard.

This is embarrassing that people still want to defend this game and use "it's a free update you should be grateful". Yeah I paid a fucking arm and a leg for the game. It came out with barely any content, it aught to be free. If it's taking them several months to make a single mission that's only maybe 20mins long max then they are doing something very very wrong and wasting their time on stuff that doesn't matter. This prestige system is more evidence that they don't care, they don't want to or aren't capable of making content so why not make players replay the same thing endlessly and call that content.
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The devs are fucking incompetent and this has been apparent since day one, and it's just become more and more glaring with each update. There's a reason they lost 90% of players in a single week, and there's a reason that less than 25% of people on xbox and playstation have even customized a full armor set.

The game is too bare bones mechanically to keep you engaged, and the amount of arbitrary restrictions on your kit don't help.
But then there's also the laughably bad dress up with its own extremely stupid restrictions, as well as all the redundant gear because the devs literally did not imagine people would care to dress up their dudes as much as they do. This is why it took 6 months to change your eye lenses, and why you're just now able to color your hands separately and change cloth color.

And then there's the issue of them, as they themselves admitted, catering the game around a fraction of a fraction of the player base who is never satisfied with the level of challenge. It's why current average difficulty is comparable to pre 5.0 Substantial or even Ruthless. They were trying to please the hardest core sweats who still want harder difficulties.

Shits a mess.
 
AncientPhosphur said:
Back on my I want I want to like Necromunda because I enjoy small unit warfare tabletop but the whole gang warfare thing seems so… bleh for 40K mentally. Probably just my Dark Heresy playthroughs bleeding through but mentally I feel like playing as some gang bumping off rivals is so uninspiring to play. Like so what you’re offing a rival gang for a pair of space Jordans? Just as an escapist fantasy I’m held back by that.
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There are rules for custom gangs. I usually play with Inquisitorial henchmen investigating stuff in the underhive and it works fine. The custom gang rules can be a little powerful if you munchkin the fuck out of them but if you have some self control its great. People often use those rules for like, genestealer cult gangs or even Kroot mercs too, very robust.
 
AncientPhosphur said:
Back on my I want I want to like Necromunda because I enjoy small unit warfare tabletop but the whole gang warfare thing seems so… bleh for 40K mentally. Probably just my Dark Heresy playthroughs bleeding through but mentally I feel like playing as some gang bumping off rivals is so uninspiring to play. Like so what you’re offing a rival gang for a pair of space Jordans? Just as an escapist fantasy I’m held back by that.
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The best advice I can give is to start reading some of the lore. At it's most basic it is, as you say, a bunch of gangers fighting over space Jordans, but there is a lot more going on. The gangs are the pointy end of the stick for more nefarious stuff happening further up the food chain on Necromunda.

It was the lore and the setting that got me into Necromunda the first time around, and N17 is one of the few instances where GW has managed to surpass the original. If you can get hold of a copy of Salvation, that novel is a banger when it comes to laying the groundwork for the game.
 
HTTP Error 404 said:

... Since when has there been 30 Necromunda novels? Jesus, heh.

Also apparently the Van Saar became awesome now? Some sort of secret supertech faction? I thought that was the Spryers.
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...And there aren't many duds either.

Well, the Van Saar have been hamfisting their way through an STC for a while now, which is why all of their nice toys end up making their hair and teeth fall out. Spyrers still get the best gear available, but what isn't blatant archeotech or off-world is Van Saar made.
 
HTTP Error 404 said:

... Since when has there been 30 Necromunda novels? Jesus, heh.

Also apparently the Van Saar became awesome now? Some sort of secret supertech faction? I thought that was the Spryers.
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As I understand it;
Spryers = Necromunda nobles that put on power armor and go to the underhive to abuse poor people for fun.
Van Saar = Have a Dark Age of Technology STC core that sorta works but also sorta irradiates the hell out of them, which may or may not be the lost Votann ancestor core the Squats of Necromunda have been looking for over the last like, thousand+ years.
 
I just started reading Eisenhorn because I've seen people say it's a good place to start for 40k novels.
I like it so far, but my eyes almost fell out rolling when Eisenhorn describes the 'smell of cordite' in the air.

Why do authors do this? Eisenhorn doesn't know what cordite is or what it smells like.
hell, the author doesnt even know what it smelled like. Probably nobody currently living does. It was a gunpowder only made for like 40 years at the end of the 19th century in a very specific location in England.
By his time it literally would not have existed for over 38 thousand years.

Or is this author a secret genius and it's just fitting for the theme of 'the imperium uses a bunch of ancient tech they barely understand because muh admech?'

I have doubts
 
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