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MG-34 said:
His Champion is literally named "The Betrayer" and Khrone worshippers have been known to genocide unarmed civilians. Not sure how reddit thought Khrone had some kind of honor code.
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Text to Speech had a gay speech about it. How I see it Khorne is a gestalt existence about violence, every few honourable parts are outnumbered by the most base desires and degenerate acts.
 
So I realized we are as far from Horus Rising as it was from Rogue Trader.

Rogue Trader was released in september 1987, Horus Rising in april 2006. So the Heresy being explored is a thing for half its existence now.
MG-34 said:
His Champion is literally named "The Betrayer" and Khrone worshippers have been known to genocide unarmed civilians. Not sure how reddit thought Khrone had some kind of honor code.
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People mistake "honor" with being a good person. Honor is about following a code, if all the code say is "dont use magic", them Niggahunter the slave master is honorable because he doesnt use magic, while a psyker who is trying to protect his family is dishonorable.

Take the japanese in ww2 or your average medieval knight and see how "honor" doesnt match the idea people got about it today.
 
p1138 said:
It's like a land raider that can't move(and 2 less wounds), doesn't have lascannons or any equivalent, can't transport or allow dudes to jump in and shoot, can get a free 2nd overwatch but the only guns worth using it on are the 2d6 flamer shots and the superfrag missile, it can't control an objective, and it can provide cover like a terrain piece... which is already super easy to get anyway.

Now if you want it because you think it's a cool terrain piece... sure? Maybe setup some kind of mission where the opponent needs to get in it, hack the automated defenses, and then blow it up or something? But you could do that with basically anything else.
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Bunker on home and sticky it.

But you still have a suboptimal use of points. Which is a huge shame. Drop pods and aircraft are similar. Too hard to cost properly so they put them high as a deterrant.

Would be sick to have them be a threat to anyone sneaking into your deployment zone.
 
Mr Clark said:
Would be sick to have them be a threat to anyone sneaking into your deployment zone.
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It's still flamers and superfrag missiles with blast to overwatch against a deep strike for 0cp. The problem is you could do the same with an infernus squad for 5 more points and overwatch with 10d6 flamers that auto hit instead of just 2d6. Or even a half squad of infernus for 90 points and still be overwatching with 5d6 autohitting flamers which would be a more efficient and more flexible use of points for the same purpose. And if they didn't drop within 12", they aren't charging the unit on the objective that turn so you just do it next turn after they move.
 
MG-34 said:
His Champion is literally named "The Betrayer" and Khrone worshippers have been known to genocide unarmed civilians. Not sure how reddit thought Khrone had some kind of honor code.
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To Khorne honor is an honest fight. To us an unarmed civilian vs a roided out demonic super soldier is not a fair fight. In Khorne's eyes it's totally fair, and not his fault you're just a weak pathetic little shit. Git gud retard. Psykers are tricksters who rely on magic and underhanded tricks to win fights that they are too weak to win. That isn't fair that someone who is clearly weaker won out.
 
winderson_silva said:
In fact, the description of Khorne in 1988's Realm of Chaos - Slaves to Darkness said that the reason he hates psykers is because magic is for intelectuals and hes too smooth brain. Hes a god of action, not of thought
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My headcanon is that Khorne once upon a time had no problem with sorcery (he’s Odin+Ares) but Tzeentch being such a fucking faggot nerd made Khorne swear off it because the blue retard ruined it for him.

That’s what I believe and I won’t budge
 
I've been flicking through some of my old White Dwarfs, and I read a great story from WD256 (April 2001 holy shit).

It's about an Ultramarines standard bearer called Galatan who was involved in fighting against a huge WAAAAGH, he ended up dueling the Warboss and got his arm chopped off, the banner fell to the floor and instead of finishing the marine off, the Ork tried to snap the banner in half but he couldn't because it had been blessed by the Emperor. This gave the marine time to stab him through the fucking head, killing him instantly and breaking the Orks and winning the battle. Then he died of his injury but the banner remained upright for the remainder of the battle.

Such a cool little story, not promoting a new model or release but just a little blurb in one of the old Index Astartes articles for flavour. A named character without a model, fuel for imagination. It's this shit that keeps me loving this hobby despite the downsides. Now I wanna do Ultras.
 
Humble Architect said:
(he’s Odin+Ares)
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Odin is an interesting case for a god of war, in the sense he was a paranoid wizard who would constantly betray people, and himself only drank alcohol because he feared his water was poisoned. He also decided who wins a battle by throwing his spear, without a care about honor or who is right or wrong on the situation.
 
Humble Architect said:
My headcanon is that Khorne once upon a time had no problem with sorcery (he’s Odin+Ares) but Tzeentch being such a fucking faggot nerd made Khorne swear off it because the blue retard ruined it for him.

That’s what I believe and I won’t budge
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this, if he beats your nerd ass it's your fault for not lifting. if you win by other means that's cheating.

"honor" more often than not is a bitch-ass nigger excuse, especially when conveniently ignored. just like principles, either accept all of it or none.

winderson_silva said:
In fact, the description of Khorne in 1988's Realm of Chaos - Slaves to Darkness said that the reason he hates psykers is because magic is for intelectuals and hes too smooth brain. Hes a god of action, not of thought
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truly the andrew tate of chaos deities

 
Humble Architect said:
My headcanon is that Khorne once upon a time had no problem with sorcery (he’s Odin+Ares) but Tzeentch being such a fucking faggot nerd made Khorne swear off it because the blue retard ruined it for him.

That’s what I believe and I won’t budge
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I like to think Khorne hates magic because he grew tired of Tzeentch’s “Just as planned” shtick. Like Khorne closed into battle with Tzeentch launching magic at him and was about to defeat Tzeentch in close battle until a comically sized magical anvil fell on his head allowing Tzeentch to escape despite an ass beating
 
AncientPhosphur said:
I like to think Khorne hates magic because he grew tired of Tzeentch’s “Just as planned” shtick. Like Khorne closed into battle with Tzeentch launching magic at him and was about to defeat Tzeentch in close battle until a comically sized magical anvil fell on his head allowing Tzeentch to escape despite an ass beating
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Well the Chaos Gods are pretty much the final form of Looney Tunes so Tzeentch being the Roadrunner (very fitting come to think of it) and Khorne being a roided -up Coyote (close enough to a dog) is fair game.
winderson_silva said:
Odin is an interesting case for a god of war, in the sense he was a paranoid wizard who would constantly betray people, and himself only drank alcohol because he feared his water was poisoned. He also decided who wins a battle by throwing his spear, without a care about honor or who is right or wrong on the situation.
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If you look at the named Khorne daemons this is very fitting. Especially Skarbrand.
 
AncientPhosphur said:
I like to think Khorne hates magic because he grew tired of Tzeentch’s “Just as planned” shtick. Like Khorne closed into battle with Tzeentch launching magic at him and was about to defeat Tzeentch in close battle until a comically sized magical anvil fell on his head allowing Tzeentch to escape despite an ass beating
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Khorne hates magic and Tzeench because Slaanesh didn't exist at first, which is why it's odd for the god of war to hate TWO different aspects of chaos, and at the same time represent war and yet abhor cunning tactics (well, he doesn't exactly abhor them, but most Khornate followers inevitably become berserkers).
 
Newcomer 42 said:
Khorne hates magic and Tzeench because Slaanesh didn't exist at first, which is why it's odd for the god of war to hate TWO different aspects of chaos, and at the same time represent war and yet abhor cunning tactics (well, he doesn't exactly abhor them, but most Khornate followers inevitably become berserkers).
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I just find it funny that Khorne doesn’t hate Nurgle and their followers have a history of not necessarily being “pals” but more often than not they’re in the mayhem together. Which makes sense war and death naturally go hand in hand.

The last two left fighting at the Siege of Terra were the WE and DG, the whole Vraks party and there was a single Nurgle warband that tagged along on a big Khorne/WE crusade.

Just the mental image of the two older brothers being bros out of appreciation for war and death, alongside hatred for their younger siblings is hilarious. A roided-out gymbro and a neckbeard vs a coomer and an Internet troll.
 
I went onto r/RogueTraderCRPG to see if the last DLC is out yet and saw the most braindead take in a while:

Ugh.webp

OP was even in the comments talking about how they thought the Emperor would be an iconoclast, "work with the xenos and the warp and everything will be okay" type. A lot of comments were pointing out how dumb it was, at least.

Sure, dude. The space marines who burn people alive for consorting with xenos would be completely chill with you keeping some pet xenos around and dealing in alien artifacts.

They even admitted in the comments they didn't know much about the lore but apparently thought they knew enough to shit this out. The fact it's so heavily upvoted shows the fucking state of the 40k fandom.
 
Humble Architect said:
The last two left fighting at the Siege of Terra were the WE and DG, the whole Vraks party and there was a single Nurgle warband that tagged along on a big Khorne/WE crusade.
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Need I remind you it was Night Lords who were first on Terra and first in the palace?

Neveragain69 said:
They even admitted in the comments they didn't know much about the lore but apparently thought they knew enough to shit this out. The fact it's so heavily upvoted shows the fucking state of the 40k fandom.
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No this definitely tracks with the average Redditor who also complain about “tourists” who are just anyone not as far left as them and are read up on the lore and minis but because they have “wrong opinions” they’re clearly not 40K fans and were tricked by the satire setting and “The Imperium are the real fascists”.
 
Neveragain69 said:
they thought the Emperor would be an iconoclast,
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In Horus Rising, the only reason they even talk with the Interex is because of Horus, all of the rest of the force is screeching for Horus to exterminate the Interex for the horrible crime of allowing xenos to live. Inferno also say that the Golden Apostles would be exterminated for allowing xenos on their ranks even if they werent a tactical enemy to the Imperium.

Unrelated, but I found out the autor of the recent Tau book Elemental Council made a fanfic.

 
AncientPhosphur said:
Need I remind you it was Night Lords who were first on Terra and first in the palace?
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Okay, that whole “first on the walls” thing is void because anyone with a jump pack from any legion was in that swarm. You do get the “first in the palace” point though, I was shocked they remembered that raptor for the SoT finale.
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My legion of course wisely realized the war was lost and didn’t even bother (this is their actual justification post-Heresy) with the Cthonian Failure.
 
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