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Is there a lore reason they don't get face protection? Gene seed apparently can't be harvested from a dead scout.
Gotta love how an abstraction to tell apart leaders from troops became canon. IIRC the DW pnp game gave you minor bonuses if you were foolish enough to fight without a helmet. The funny thing is that at some point sarges and such got increasingly detailed helmets to tell them apart, so that plot point is pointless.
It's like how Commissars seemingly fight without armor (which they obviously wear, hidden under their fancy uniforms).
 
Faggotry of goonhammer as a whole aside

"nearly 2/3 of this 362 page core rulebook are rules... 18 pages just explaining how vehicles work"
"... the assault phase consisting of 5 sub-phases per unit, before getting into challenges, combat resolution, or anything else"
"on to the challenge sub-phase, which takes up 18 pages of the rulebook"

in the 2nd batrep video I had found yesterday(the 3 hour one) they weren't interacting with half the rules because they were basically just playing footsies. Liam Dempsey also posted a batrep livestream on his channel yesterday, and was able to get a game done in 3 hours, but still only used a fairly basic selection of units, and the guys on his channel like SN batreps are or have been tournament players that can knock out a game of 40k in 2.5 hours. With years of people insisting how crazy or difficult it must be to play a game of 40k in under 3 hours, it seems like the average casual player that's going to be like running a marathon at full sprint the entire time for 30k to pull off, and we're still basically only looking at half the info at this point since the launch hasn't happened yet.
 
Faggotry of goonhammer as a whole aside

"Just snap your Multi-Meltas off"

Anyway, the best part of this clusterfuck is the lack of serious reviews by people who are on the free plastic teat. I think we're going to be hearing "its a very different game" a lot in the next few weeks. I'm going to eat some humble pie and say this latest edition hasn't got anything to do with tournament play. There is a level of incompetence at play here that is breathtaking to behold and I can't for the life of me wrap my head around what they were trying to achieve.

Even if you ignore the grammatical and spelling errors, the gutting of wargear choices, "streamlining" of weapon profiles, removing RoW, the clusterfuck that is the new force orgs etc; the game just flows like shit, and its not just people getting their heads around the rules (not that most YT speds get the rules right anyway).

I'm prepared to wait until we start seeing "real" bat reps before I pass a final judgement, but so far this new version is shaping up to be the Battlefield 2042 of 30K.
 
I'm starting to think GW is sabotaging 30k.
They’re trying to sell models and using the 10th edition retardation to do it.

Using “Wider audience” as an excuse probably. Fuck off. Only people that do tabletop are neckbeard and their kin. You’re not getting back to Covid sales GW just make the game for people who love it.
 
Anyway, the best part of this clusterfuck is the lack of serious reviews by people who are on the free plastic teat. I think we're going to be hearing "its a very different game" a lot in the next few weeks. I'm going to eat some humble pie and say this latest edition hasn't got anything to do with tournament play
I don't expect to see proper competent bat reps for a couple of months, easily. Even without the free plastic, they're still going to be getting the rules coming out over the next quarter early due to shilling for GW.

There is a level of incompetence at play here that is breathtaking to behold and I can't for the life of me wrap my head around what they were trying to achieve.
A weird attempt at trying to make a niche within a niche just as mainstream as their other niche hobby products.

(not that most YT speds get the rules right anyway).
It's even funnier seeing GW fuck up the rules in their own batreps on their paid subscription service(there's obviously other ways to watch those, but they're terrible).

Using “Wider audience” as an excuse probably. Fuck off. Only people that do tabletop are neckbeard and their kin. You’re not getting back to Covid sales GW just make the game for people who love it.
Probably. And HH is the beardiest of necks.

edit: Just saw this video, timestamped for what I'm referring to

Now I wonder if some of the bat reps are playing with this simplified 12 page version of the rules considering they're using a lot of the models from the box(with some others added in).
 
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eBay far and away. You can get some lots at an insane discount, especially if it’s a tournament flavor of the month being disposed of by some WAAC type with more money than sense.
I keep hearing this (and "current flavour of the month starter set + "half") but I never seem to find them.

Except Duncan.
Including Duncan.

"Two thin coats! Lel! Epik maymay am I rite guys!"

What's the best way to enjoy DoW solo? I own them all, played a bit of the first's campaign but it fell out of my rotation a bit ago.
Late, but Dark Crusade campaign. Or a skirmish on one of the 1v1 maps like the river crossing one.
 
I keep hearing this (and "current flavour of the month starter set + "half") but I never seem to find them.
The starter set halves that can be found cheap on ebay would be when the edition launches. Like necron or space marine halves from Indomitus, or tyranid or space marine halves from Leviathan. We're 2 years past the leviathan edition starter box, and I still see people occasionally recommending people "just buy an indomitus half for cheap on ebay" 5 years late. It's ridiculous. The game starter boxes like the "ultimate starter set" and the regular version, will also pop up in halves for cheap on ebay when an edition comes out, because people will buy a couple of those to fill in the rest of their army(that they just got from the edition launch box) and sell the half they don't want(to recoup some cost), but again we're past that with 10th.

As far as the WAAC players who constantly chase the meta, the ones that actually do regularly buy and sell their armies in my experience just sell their stuff(if they even bother) to other local people as it avoids having to ship an army(or a large part of one) and ebay fees and what not. Very rarely have I ever seen an army for a previous meta on ebay for cheap.

What I also see a lot of the time with regard to people bitching about the "meta chasers" at least in my area, is that I know some of the "meta chasers" that get complained about, and they don't only own 4,000 points of one army at a time. They're usually people with I'd say 3-4 armies, and plenty of points in each to just pick up what they need to fill in for the current meta they're "chasing"(if they even have to) and when that's no longer the hot thing they'll shelve it and swap to one of their other armies and buy the couple necessary units for that. What some people fail to realize, is that the shit goes in cycles. Something will be the hottest thing ever for a bit, then the next thing will, and maybe with a major update or edition change some previous thing may be good again. Also because these people aren't swapping out their entire army every 3 months and stick with them over time, they actually simply get good and playing multiple types of armies means they'll have a good understanding of other playstyles as well.

The idea of some rich kids constantly buying and selling shit is incredibly over blown. What I've actually seen regularly is someone being new to 40k, looking up the current meta, getting their exactly 2000 point army together and spending months painting it, then getting their shit wrecked once they finally play a game because the meta shifted in the time it took them to even build and paint the thing, and then on top of that they have no idea how to run it, and then just get angry and rage quit, selling it again to another local in the shop who wasn't the 5th person to table them in a row.
 
GW doesn't want neckbeards. They ask questions, they don't consume slop and get excited for next slop.
Neckbeards ask questions? Fucking lol, all neckbeards do is bitch, moan, and jerk themselves off about how "muh oldah editions muh superior! Muh could use muh broken army and win!"
 
Just saw this video, timestamped for what I'm referring to
Fuck me. That is legitimately depressing.



Woah! Be careful! Theres a rulebook behind you right this very moment!

I bet this guy has to do a line of SSRIs when a new 40K edition drops and then books the week off work.

This is your target audience now. If you can't distill everything into a TikTok video you're done.

I think you might be right about people playing off the pamphlet rather than diving straight into the full rules. That being said, a mate of mine watched a Winters video (poor bastard) and said it seemed like they might have been playing with the full rules. From the descriptions of what they were fielding it sounded something more like a real game of 30K. They didn't sound particularly enthusiastic about it either.
 
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Including Duncan.

"Two thin coats! Lel! Epik maymay am I rite guys!"
Maymay or not, this is still solid advice. There's still more than enough people painting their shit looking like Peter North just dropped a fat load over them.
 
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Maymay or not, this is still solid advice. There''s still more than enough people painting their shit looking like Peter North just dropped a fat load over them.
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Some good painters in the thread, appreciate everyone putting their work out there! Here's a few things I was able to wrap up in the last week or so. I'm particularly happy with the chaos lord on foot as it was my first attempt at osl. That being said if anybody has any tips on how to make the effect more convincing id appreciate any advice.

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Stumbled into a neat effect while working on my eldar a while ago, and put it to use on drazhar; you can thin down a color-shift paint like turbo dork and coat it over your shading for an ethereal metallic. Still no idea how to paint gems though lol

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Lastly is my Azrael; dude has won me enough games to finally get painted. Happy for the most part but I def fucked up his eyes, and the sword feels a bit underwhelming.

So what has everyone else been painting?
Love it, lots of respect to people who picked the ornate factions that you can’t do the Homer Simpson “makeup shotgun” approach on.

Today’s rotation is painting more of the Space Marine Heroes Terminators and kitbashing some Flawless Blades using the spare swords and 40mm bases.
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This guy is based off a fan art of Lucius I really like, plus I’m pretty sure the bare head in the EC upgrade kit is meant to be Lucius from the Visions artwork, the same way the bare head in the IW one is Honsou.
 
Fuck me. That is legitimately depressing.

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Woah! Be careful! Theres a rulebook behind you right this very moment!

I bet this guy has to do a line of SSRIs when a new 40K edition drops and then books the week off work.

This is your target audience now. If you can't distill everything into a TikTok video you're done.

I think you might be right about people playing off the pamphlet rather than diving straight into the full rules. That being said, a mate of mine watched a Winters video (poor bastard) and said it seemed like they might have been playing with the full rules. From the descriptions of what they were fielding it sounded something more like a real game of 30K. They didn't sound particularly enthusiastic about it either.
Maybe, it's hard to say but I simply don't trust any of this shit as an example of the game. It's kind of like when a new codex comes out and the batrep channels that get it early put it in a match up and it somehow always manages to win, even when you look at the lists they're running and just end up scratching your head.

It's also funny that the two of us basically have the same opinions of this obvious shilling(anyone claiming they aren't when they've clearly received it weeks early is a fucking idiot) for different reasons.

Winters SEO, all I remember about him was he threw a fit complaining about the state of 10th edition 40k a year and a bit ago or so, but of course continues playing it and couldn't articulate what his problems were, it was just complaining that it mostly wasn't the same as 9th.
 
I'm starting to think GW is sabotaging 30k.
Games workshop wants to bring in the nigger cattle slop enjoyers from 40kike and they're gonna succeed with how much they've raped this edition. I am not looking forward to nu30kike. fuck nigger workshop and fuck kikes they ruin every aspect of this hobby that makes it fun.

I'm sticking to WHFB 6th edition, guess it's time to get rid of my 30slop armies.
 
I don't know how people bother stripping models. Primer fucked 60+ models of mine and I'm almost at the stage of just buying new ones. Wraiths have so many crevices to hide primer and are delicate as it is.
 
I don't know how people bother stripping models. Primer fucked 60+ models of mine and I'm almost at the stage of just buying new ones. Wraiths have so many crevices to hide primer and are delicate as it is.
Because it's easy, especially if you're using acrylic primer. In the US, go to a dollar store, get a couple bottles of LA Totally Awesome, looks like piss, smells like cat piss, and a plastic tub to dump that and the models in. Takes the paint(unless we're talking about someone using some testors enamel like a weirdo) and primer right off of the plastic in a few minutes and maybe a quick scrub with an old toothbrush to get some bits out of it of crevices and armpits.
 
Games workshop wants to bring in the nigger cattle slop enjoyers from 40kike and they're gonna succeed with how much they've raped this edition. I am not looking forward to nu30kike. fuck nigger workshop and fuck kikes they ruin every aspect of this hobby that makes it fun.

I'm sticking to WHFB 6th edition, guess it's time to get rid of my 30slop armies.
Fact check - True
Looking through the leaks and watching one of the demo battles people are doing - I do believe GW is trying to bring HH in line with 40k, but at the same time the rules are so poorly written and so needlessly complex, especially compared to the last edition, that I don't know how the crowd that can't get a game of 40k done in under 3 hours is going to adapt.
 
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