Warhammer 40k

[Penne Dreadful]

I believe sales and/or play data got made public a few years ago and Marines of all stripes (loyalist, CSM, sub-factions) outnumber everyone else combined. There are Marine subfactions that make GW more money than their entire Eldar line.

The factoid (or possibly even fact) around the launch of AoS was that in years prior, the Tactical box had outsold the entirety of WHFB.

The problem is money, the cheapest models are still pretty expensive because of third-world hole.

I may buy one or two models someday. I'm still just starting at my job, so I guess in one year or two I will have the money I need, after paying for the stuff I need first (fixing broken electronics and neutering my dog)

You know, I was thinking, the Sisters and Custodes are the two tabletop imperial factions with the least "your dudes" factor, or am I just getting it wrong?

I will admit I haven't read much Sister stuff. I have only read some 4 Custodes novels, but it appears, from their codices, that they have a less diverse mold than other factions, as their culture is uniform. So the different Ordos and Hosts are more about specialization than being culture X in Space, like how Guard and Marines do.

Anyone who knows the factions better can correct me.

Sisters are nominally in the same boat as Orks - you've got the handful of major Orders/Clanz that everyone knows, but any number of minor ones with infinite room for your dudes. At worst, you'll just have to pick a major Order from which yours descended, but that just puts you in the same boat as successor Marines. They're all going to fall within the same faction identity, but it's not so restrictive as to disallow your own ideas and there's plenty of unexplored design space, particularly when it comes to interacting with the non-militant orders of the Sororitas, most of which even have a model or two at this point to help theme an army.

 

[Rick The Stick]

"Loken had very little experience of women. Perhaps they were all frail and beautiful. He knew enough to know few were as black as her"

 

[p1138]

Sisters are nominally in the same boat as Orks - you've got the handful of major Orders/Clanz that everyone knows, but any number of minor ones with infinite room for your dudes. At worst, you'll just have to pick a major Order from which yours descended, but that just puts you in the same boat as successor Marines. They're all going to fall within the same faction identity, but it's not so restrictive as to disallow your own ideas and there's plenty of unexplored design space, particularly when it comes to interacting with the non-militant orders of the Sororitas, most of which even have a model or two at this point to help theme an army.

Exactly. There's another page for orders minoris, and another for non-militant orders(which doesn't mean they don't have power armor and guns) but the main text at the top of each page(these are from the 8th edition codex)

You know, I was thinking, the Sisters and Custodes are the two tabletop imperial factions with the least "your dudes" factor, or am I just getting it wrong?

That is definitely GW trying to get the point across that you can definitely paint them as "your dudes". This even works for named characters as well. "This is Cannoness Christine Chandler in her order's relic paragon warsuit" and then you just use Morven Vahl's sheet. Just as the same as you'd do with space marines so long as you aren't using sheets that can't go together due to specific rules. And then you just pick a detachment that fits "your dudes". Basically the only thing it doesn't really work for is primarchs(and even then you could still justify it for your own lore as a chapter master or daemon prince if you really want to. Just accept the fact that no one else is going to give a shit about your OC donut steel which has always been the case anyway).

Even custodes have the Dreadhost, Shadowkeepers, Aquilan Shield, etc. and within those have their little groups of a handful of dudebros "the 37th sodality of the key" that could be 5 specific shadowkeepers that get along and work together better as their own club, and since none of their armor is mass produced they can do whatever they want with it, since the gold is just the base material(auramite) anyway. The "problem" with this for custodes is that because there's so few of them and so many of these little brotherhoods that it barely makes sense for an entire army of them but that's also the case by default anyway since a handful at a time get deployed to places and do the job of 100 space marines and the tabletop just doesn't represent them as being that elite unless you want to paint them all like a pile of skittles on the table with different colored trim or helmet plumes or whatever because something has become such a threat 30 custodes actually had to get together to deal with it.

 

[harbringer883]

"Loken had very little experience of women. Perhaps they were all frail and beautiful. He knew enough to know few were as black as her"

My boy ain't no oil driller.

 

[augment]

The problem is money, the cheapest models are still pretty expensive because of third-world hole.

I may buy one or two models someday. I'm still just starting at my job, so I guess in one year or two I will have the money I need, after paying for the stuff I need first (fixing broken electronics and neutering my dog)

You know, I was thinking, the Sisters and Custodes are the two tabletop imperial factions with the least "your dudes" factor, or am I just getting it wrong?

GW does not care about your dudes anymore. Pick whatever you think is cool and enjoy your badass miniatures.

 

[Retreaded Tire]

Who is this supposed to be?

 

[Humble Architect]

One of the best passages of any 40k book and it sums up marines in a nutshell. Beyond primarch, affiliation, legacy, era, the truth is they live for the action.

 

[Brubby Two]

Who is this supposed to be?

Primaris Psyker//Astropath. No - not the kind of primaris you initially would think

 

[GoodWinSon]

"Loken had very little experience of women. Perhaps they were all frail and beautiful. He knew enough to know few were as black as her"

"I caught Loken racemixing with a journo. Trillions must die."

 

[Humble Architect]

"I caught Loken racemixing with a journo. Trillions must die."
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“You’re going to the Lodge meeting, aren’t you, boys? By the way, that human mute whose vile remembrancer master had an accident? Play nice with him.”

 

[A Fly on the wall]

To anyone who 3d prints in this thread how does one get the Deathwatch pauldrons with all the words on them looking good? I use a fine detail nozzle and they all come out looking like shit

 

[p1138]

To anyone who 3d prints in this thread how does one get the Deathwatch pauldrons with all the words on them looking good? I use a fine detail nozzle and they all come out looking like shit

That's because you're 3d printing minis with FDM. It's fine for terrain, looks shitty for a lot of vehicles, of course it's going to look like ass with detail like that. Use a resin printer. Anyone claiming they're printing detailed minis with FDM and they don't look like shit is a liar.

 

[harbringer883]

To anyone who 3d prints in this thread how does one get the Deathwatch pauldrons with all the words on them looking good? I use a fine detail nozzle and they all come out looking like shit

Use a resin printer. There should be some on sale for black friday.

Exactly. There's another page for orders minoris, and another for non-militant orders(which doesn't mean they don't have power armor and guns) but the main text at the top of each page(these are from the 8th edition codex)

I miss this stuff in codexes.

 

[p1138]

I miss this stuff in codexes.

It's still there. I just used the 8th edition codex as an example because I knew where I had it and it was higher quality than the copy of the 10th edition version.

Same shit, hundreds of orders minoris, and then non-militant orders. They even took the names of the orders majoris off of the detachment rules in 10th to try and make it clearer that they're telling you to just paint the shit as "your dudes" because some people were too fucking dumb about that shit in 9th(mostly people who didn't actually play).

 

[Mr Clark]

To anyone who 3d prints in this thread how does one get the Deathwatch pauldrons with all the words on them looking good? I use a fine detail nozzle and they all come out looking like shit

Resin as the others have said.

Fdm can be good with a .2 and good settings (HoHansen) but i dont think it can be that good. I have pronted bases with writing on it and that was pretty good so depends on how fine tuned your settings are

 

[Retreaded Tire]

Pulled the trigger on a kill team, I'm getting Nemesis Claw and the shit to build it for . Painting might have to wait for me to get a bit more money. I was thinking of painting it as an "all star squad" and do each guy as a different legion but my experience is like one DND miniature 30 years ago.

Probably just gonna stick to solo ops to learn the game and then see what the local scene is like.

My understanding of the solo ops is that you need the kill zone and an opposing force, but could I just use like Lego guys or something as the NPOs for now?

I was looking on eBay for cheaper sets and they have Inquisitorial Agents new on sprue with no box for around 30 bucks. But upon reading a review of that team it says you have to requisition 5 guys from another Imperium kill team. How does that work?

 

[TingoFranDingo]

My understanding of the solo ops is that you need the kill zone and an opposing force, but could I just use like Lego guys or something as the NPOs for now?

I was looking on eBay for cheaper sets and they have Inquisitorial Agents new on sprue with no box for around 30 bucks. But upon reading a review of that team it says you have to requisition 5 guys from another Imperium kill team. How does that work?

yeah, you can use whatever, just as long as you can keep track of shooty guys and fighty guys

you can either get a second set of Inquisitorial Agents and build the other options + a second servitor with a different gun, or you can take 5 options from Death Korps, Exaction Squad, Navy Breachers, Kasrkin, Sisters of Silence, or Tempestus Scions. check out wahapedia for more info

 

[Brubby Two]

But upon reading a review of that team it says you have to requisition 5 guys from another Imperium kill team. How does that work?

Ratlings have something similar, they can soup with ogryn units.

Probably just gonna stick to solo ops to learn the game and then see what the local scene is like.

Most stores or clubs have their own terrain you can use, yours might even have a discord where you could try to arrange someone to teach you or help onboard you to the game. Would be a great icebreaker or way to find out if you want to be around them.

 

[Lizard Machine Bugs]

You know, that Alpha Legion (worst traitor legion) nigger getting a sequel at least gives me hopes that some of the good traitor legion books will get sequels, one day and the Chaos books won’t be dominated by, John French’s favourite who’s too cool for Chaos, ADB’s Night Lords who are too cool for chaos, Fabius Bile who’s too cool for Chaos, an incomplete Black Legion trilogy and one-offs with good characters who we want to see more of.

I hope Shroud of Night gets a sequel, I liked it well enough and I think Alpha Legionaries stumbling into helping the Imperium is a neat concept.

 

[Rick The Stick]

I hope Shroud of Night gets a sequel, I liked to well enough and I think Alpha Legionaries stumbling into helping the Imperium is a neat concept.

Ain't that the story where

Spoiler

they end up getting caught up in a battle between the fucking World Eaters(with Khârn) and the SoB with Celestine showing up, before she decides "you will take the beacon and deliver it to the Imperium"?