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ended up trying to paint one of the Space Marines in the kill team box like a blood angel using speed paint, i need to get gloves for when I prime because I just put him on a box and sprayed him and fucking loaded him with paint on accident, and I didn't have a way to remove the spray paint.

So here's my retarded little guy

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I dont think WE need another 3 man unit of melee, armor, and meat at most they need havocs
On top of that Mutilators are melee Obliterators so it makes sense for them to be predominantly in the Iron Warriors.
 
ended up trying to paint one of the Space Marines in the kill team box like a blood angel using speed paint, i need to get gloves for when I prime because I just put him on a box and sprayed him and fucking loaded him with paint on accident, and I didn't have a way to remove the spray paint.

So here's my retarded little guy

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Jar of rubbing alcohol, simple green, or la's totally awesome, all cheap and can strip paint(including primer) without harming the plastic.
 
Jar of rubbing alcohol, simple green, or la's totally awesome, all cheap and can strip paint(including primer) without harming the plastic.
Yeah roommate said the same thing, so i think i'll bath him/scrub with a tooth brush to get that shit off him.
 
Yeah roommate said the same thing, so i think i'll bath him/scrub with a tooth brush to get that shit off him.
Someone else mentioned in the thread keeping your first paint jobs around as a reminder of your progress years down the line, and that's fine, but when a fuck up happens fortunately it can be fixed. Even if you only get 99% of the paint off and there's still a little bit in the crevices visible, as long as it's not chunks it'll be fine to prime.

As for the priming, light coats. Start spraying, move past the model, then stop. You don't need 100% opaque coverage with it either. You might have to spray 10 times, but you want to use as little as possible without stopping or starting with it pointed at the model(avoids any random larger drops from starting or stopping).
 
The thing people commented on GW failing to show how evil the Imperium is supposed to be, it is also the same with how "inhuman" Marines and Custodes are supposed to be.

You got a Custodian in Wolftime talking on how "You got lucky, you would lose everything that makes you human," to a nobleman who was not given to the custodes, yet every single custode pov we see is extremely human. Even the idea of "They are Yes Men who can't say no to the Emperor" is moot because they can still disagree; they just physically can't go against his wishes.

Hell, people assume that the Sisters are "way more cruel than the average" because at least they are allowed to be written as monsters from time to time, yet the brainwashed child soldier whose body is as far from a normal human as an ork is remains just a dude who 9 times out of 10 is a classical hero.
 
The thing people commented on GW failing to show how evil the Imperium is supposed to be, it is also the same with how "inhuman" Marines and Custodes are supposed to be.

You got a Custodian in Wolftime talking on how "You got lucky, you would lose everything that makes you human," to a nobleman who was not given to the custodes, yet every single custode pov we see is extremely human. Even the idea of "They are Yes Men who can't say no to the Emperor" is moot because they can still disagree; they just physically can't go against his wishes.

Hell, people assume that the Sisters are "way more cruel than the average" because at least they are allowed to be written as monsters from time to time, yet the brainwashed child soldier whose body is as far from a normal human as an ork is remains just a dude who 9 times out of 10 is a classical hero.
Some old dude at the game store I frequent went on some rant about how the Imperium isn't something to be idealized, they're evil yada yada. And it took all of my will power to point out that they're not evil, they're just humanity pushed to an extreme because of everything around them. There are people in the Imperium that do great evil in the name of a greater good sure, like Inquisitors who bomb a planet to stop Chaos or something, but there are also people who do amazing good to save their fellow man.

I hate it when people simplify the Imperium as just "the bad guys" because they can't see nuance.
 
The problem is that 99,99% of pov characters are classical heroes, at one point going "I am the sane person in a sea of zealots" just means everyone is sane. Sure, from time to time, you get a single protagonist who is actually a monster, but how am I supposed to think "No, this is the cruelest regime possible" if you can't kick a rock without finding a glorious heroic figure?

They should be the exception, not the rule.
 
Some old dude at the game store I frequent went on some rant about how the Imperium isn't something to be idealized, they're evil yada yada.
I think the Imperium is evil on an institutional level as they view humanity as a disposable resource. Millions of lives can be considered rounding errors when measuring the impact of Imperial policies. It is an entire civilization that is built to fund war. This empire can not function unless it sends its people to die in conflict, unlike the Empire of Man or Sigmar's Forces of Order.
 
I think the Imperium is evil on an institutional level as they view humanity as a disposable resource. Millions of lives can be considered rounding errors when measuring the impact of Imperial policies. It is an entire civilization that is built to fund war. This empire can not function unless it sends its people to die in conflict, unlike the Empire of Man or Sigmar's Forces of Order.
I think it's evil in the same sense of the things that you mentioned

But I think people going "insert alien here is better than it and nicer" while ignoring the few good things the imperiums citizens do is dumb.

It's kind of like the empire in star wars

Yes the empire as an institution is evil but just saying it only does evil is a narrow view of things, it's why I liked that in legends they at least tried to make the issue a bit more nuanced
 
Sisters I don't like the noodle guys that are a third of the box. I could proxy something I like more, but not sure.
You take that back you heretic filth. Arco-flagellants are S-tier.

They're a very interesting unit; nearly everything except the weakest guns in the game are inefficient into them. They don't get anything but a 6+ save and a 5+ feel no pain, so AP doesn't matter. You can take 3 for 45 points as an cheapo objective scoring unit that gives you a free miracle dice when they die. Throw them in Hallowed Martyrs where they can fight on death with a +1/+1, or in Penitent Host for a 4+ FNP which is disgusting. They are really annoying to move around though, their little arms get stuck on each other constantly.
 
On top of that Mutilators are melee Obliterators so it makes sense for them to be predominantly in the Iron Warriors.
Say it with me now, okay?

Just because you have unit that does X doesn’t mean you can’t have more of it. It’s like Raptors and EC/WE, we’re already going fast and killy, give me more.

Plus old lore, Mutilators were Khorne’s contribution to the living weapons program and although looking like Obliterators, were more like daemons than the virus-made Obliterators.
 
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Here is another unit the World Eaters will not get.
My guess is locked to CSM and perf for IW.

Too brutish for EC and 1ksons, doesnt fit DG and WE already have Eightbound.

I wouldnt want them in EC because then its an excuse to not give us something else. We already have Terminators that look WAY out of place and Slaanesh corruption is not the typical demon corruption on display here.
 
My guess is locked to CSM and perf for IW.

Too brutish for EC and 1ksons, doesnt fit DG and WE already have Eightbound.

I wouldnt want them in EC because then its an excuse to not give us something else. We already have Terminators that look WAY out of place and Slaanesh corruption is not the typical demon corruption on display here.
I know, I just hate the legion-locking and Eightbound.

For terminators, I don’t mind using the CSM ones because they’re described having the elephant terminators in the books as-is. It’s not like the WE, DG or TS where the whole legion is changed into a new sub-type of marine. There’s still “normal” marines in the legion, by the standard a CSM can be called normal.

You just gotta file off those Undivided marks.
 
Anyone gots any tips how to make dead bodies to be like part of a basing scene?
It's usually easier to do dismembered bits and then having some bone and blood or whatever sticking out of the ends where things got cut or shot off. Space marines and necrons are fairly easy to cut up at the body joints to re-glue gap fill with minimal effort compared to something like re-posing the knee of a guardsman. Plus you can also partially bury them in rubble/mud/whatever to hide joints too if you need to re-do something as sprawled out face down in the dirt. That being said, fitting an entire body of even a dead guardsman on a base is a bit much for anything smaller than a dreadnought or knight.

With all of that being said, there are STLs that would make this sort of thing a hell of a lot easier, especially for things like guardsmen and cultists. If you look up casualties on cults3d or myminifactory you'll see what I mean since there's tons of them.
 
You take that back you heretic filth. Arco-flagellants are S-tier.
I just don't like the models. Naked dudes with whips for hands. Repentia (I think that's the name) are the same kind of look but at least have the giant chainsaws going for them. Of all the battlecrys in 40k, "Send in the gimps!" isn't the one I expected.

I have a bunch of models and a shit load of melee weapons from my frostgrave kits I could proxy in. Assuming I don't buy something else.
 
I just don't like the models. Naked dudes with whips for hands. Repentia (I think that's the name) are the same kind of look but at least have the giant chainsaws going for them. Of all the battlecrys in 40k, "Send in the gimps!" isn't the one I expected.
Lots of gimps in 40k. Admech chicken walkers? Look below the pilot, there's someone in a gimp suit. Slaanesh cultists, 'nuff said. The luckier of the ones captured by drukhari, plus the old mandrakes, . All of the imperial assassins. In Fall of Cadia, the sisters there definitely send in an army of gimps that I guess they had just been caring and feeding for just in case they needed them.
 
Hell, people assume that the Sisters are "way more cruel than the average" because at least they are allowed to be written as monsters from time to time, yet the brainwashed child soldier whose body is as far from a normal human as an ork is remains just a dude who 9 times out of 10 is a classical hero.
Custodes are just classical heroes when you have the knowledge they are working for the singular reason the imperium still barely stands today, which is the emperor. All of their actions can be justified by the fact that they are one of the few individuals with knowledge of what happens behind the doors to the golden throne, something that only primarchs and the most high ranking marines are privy to.

Outside of that, you can argue that they are one of most tragic (imo) cases of brainwashing in the imperium, because compared to space marines and servitors which are unaware of how brainwashed they are the custodes are fully aware that even if they disagree with the emperor or his plan they are bound to follow his orders. Obviously this means nothing since the emperor is a vegetable incapable of giving orders, but that leash still shows through with how they work closely with guilliman even though they have a deep distrust of both primarchs and space marines just because the emperor spoke to him, or how they just confined themselves to the golden throne since they are directionless without the emperor to call some sort of shots.
 
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