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Professor Donger said:
11th Edition announced

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Where have I seen that before?

Oh yeah. I remember.

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Mr Clark said:
Im really surprised they didnt announce
- a new BA character to go with the launch and sell them separately
- bikes for everyone

Im not surprised at
- new sisters model (NOT complaining)
- random tyranid model
- unnecessary guard model

Have they announced box contents? Highly unlikely to get it for some reason
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No, just what the cover is and what can be identified on it. The marine in the bottom right looks like a new heavy intercessor. And yeah, unless you're into space marines and/or orks... don't buy it. If you only want half of it, find someone to split it with or just buy the half on ebay or something.

As far as what they didn't announce, they've still got months to string along the hype train.
daniel day said:
>blood angels launch box
>not a single BA-specific miniature anywhere on the cover
Im either getting pounded in the ass or this is going to be lit as fuck, as is typical for blood angels.
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Chapter specific minis in a launch box could mean lower potential sales for GW. It's a box they'll want every space marine player to rush to buy, that won't happen if it's got models those players can't use.
 
Things that make me nervous:

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None of the codexes work now, because all of the rules that get constantly updated.
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Why do this when 80% of nearly any given army's detachments are unviable/unplayable now? No fucking way they balance it well.
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Can't wait to see how broken this gets.
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Neat idea, terrified that they're going to make unclear objective/terrain rules to make it even more wonky.

Things that give me hope:
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Supposedly this means anyone in terrain cannot be shot at until it has shot, unless the attacker is within 15". Sounds like a decent way to make melee more viable.

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Big change is that you roll your charge, then choose where you go. Also good for melee, makes it not so awkward.
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This is nice I am thinking, declutters some rules nonsense.

Overall, mixed reaction, but it doesn't seem that they're straying too far from 10th. Melee seems more viable so that you don't have to rely on tricksy nonsense and luck to get in. It also appears that they're making armies more flexible, which is good, buuuut they show no interest in making it less comp focused, so I'm worried about how the two design philosophies clash. The more possibilities are added, the more potential for broken nonsense, which is fine if 40k is just a casual fuck around game but they seem to want it to be competitive as well. I do like that they're trying to make melee more viable beyond just raw stats.
 
p1138 said:
Chapter specific minis in a launch box could mean lower potential sales for GW. It's a box they'll want every space marine player to rush to buy, that won't happen if it's got models those players can't use.
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I dont care. GW owes me and every other BA player for the Sanguinary Guard and the Sanguinor and Dante and the upgrade sprue and the missing dreads and the lackluster Death Company stuff. Also 6-7th edition set precedent with Dark Angels.

Besides, going back to armageddon but keeping the space marines generic would be gay as fuck. If you're going to include what I think is the most flavorful faction of the three main ones that fought on Armageddon (of BA, Salamanders, and Ultramarines) then why not put in any BA sauce? Especially if they give us new sculpts for the faction on top of the generic sculpts we're getting.
 
daniel day said:
Besides, going back to armageddon but keeping the space marines generic would be gay as fuck. If you're going to include what I think is the most flavorful faction of the three main ones that fought on Armageddon (of BA, Salamanders, and Ultramarines) then why not put in any BA sauce? Especially if they give us new sculpts for the faction on top of the generic sculpts we're getting.
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Because like how every other launch box wasn't an ultramarines box even though they were painted blue, this is the same just painted red. Shoving in BA specific characters and units immediately makes it useless for a lot of potential customers.
 
iceteayo said:
Depends they copyright on what they showed was 2025
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Like someone else said earlier that doesn't mean anything. Copyrights can cover a whole host of different things. The copyright could just say 2025 because the Steel Legion are a GW product that they own, they could not intended for them to come back at all and only really kept the copyright on them for books and video games. They're mentioned in Dark Tide as an example.
 
Professor Donger said:
Like someone else said earlier that doesn't mean anything. Copyrights can cover a whole host of different things. The copyright could just say 2025 because the Steel Legion are a GW product that they own, they could not intended for them to come back at all and only really kept the copyright on them for books and video games. They're mentioned in Dark Tide as an example.
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I suppose but I still think Jes made those sketches as his line work is usually like that even on new models like this
 

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Professor Donger said:
The copyright could just say 2025 because the Steel Legion are a GW product that they own, they could not intended for them to come back at all and only really kept the copyright on them for books and video games. They're mentioned in Dark Tide as an example.
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That's not how copyright on artworks/images works. A copyright on a picture is associated with when it was made. If the concept art had been made in 2026 it would've been copyright 2026. Copyright itself doesn't expire for seventy years, if it was just the copyright for the concept of the Steel Legion it would date back to the 90s. EDIT: And that would be a trademark, not a copyright, IIRC.
 
The Cavalry has Arrived said:
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That's not how copyright on artworks/images works. A copyright on a picture is associated with when it was made. If the concept art had been made in 2026 it would've been copyright 2026. Copyright itself doesn't expire for seventy years, if it was just the copyright for the concept of the Steel Legion it would date back to the 90s. EDIT: And that would be a trademark, not a copyright, IIRC.
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Again, if you were going to create a launch like this, you'd have much more than concept art if you were working on something. For a year, you'd have a lot more than just a concept, or that concept sketch could have been done. Hell, I know counts of daughters who could have done it in maybe three hours.
Yes, that was made a year ago, but they have nothing else after working on shit for a year. Bullshit. They had that on the back shelf. And literally got pissed on by the general public, so they had to release it.
 
daniel day said:
I dont care. GW owes me and every other BA player for the Sanguinary Guard and the Sanguinor and Dante and the upgrade sprue and the missing dreads and the lackluster Death Company stuff. Also 6-7th edition set precedent with Dark Angels.

Besides, going back to armageddon but keeping the space marines generic would be gay as fuck. If you're going to include what I think is the most flavorful faction of the three main ones that fought on Armageddon (of BA, Salamanders, and Ultramarines) then why not put in any BA sauce? Especially if they give us new sculpts for the faction on top of the generic sculpts we're getting.
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Buddy is over here counting ultramarines and not black templars lmfao
 
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