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These younglings looks suspiciously bald.

 

[Defensive Ella Purnell]

Just finished the first booking in The Scouring series; Ashes of the Imperium by Chris Wraight. He's probably the best author BL has apart from Fehervari imo, but he's niche.

It was excellent, without going into spoilers I particularly liked the dynamics between the legions who had defended Terra and the Ultramarines as the late comers and the tension and resentment that came as a result of that. There's a couple of lines about Dorn & the Khan finally having the prestige and love of the people but no power anymore, and Guilliman arriving late but having the power of an intact legion, putting him in charge by default.

It's kind of meta, the Ultramarines coming in late and rebuilding Terra is why they're the poster boys of the Astartes. They fed and sheltered the people after and led the reconquest of the Imperium. Other legions are even being supplied weapons and vehicles made in Ultramar and they hate it. They're hated by other legions as much as by the fans. Makes me like them tbh.

 

[p1138]

Just finished the first booking in The Scouring series; Ashes of the Imperium by Chris Wraight. He's probably the best author BL has apart from Fehervari imo, but he's niche.

It was excellent, without going into spoilers I particularly liked the dynamics between the legions who had defended Terra and the Ultramarines as the late comers and the tension and resentment that came as a result of that. There's a couple of lines about Dorn & the Khan finally having the prestige and love of the people but no power anymore, and Guilliman arriving late but having the power of an intact legion, putting him in charge by default.

It's kind of meta, the Ultramarines coming in late and rebuilding Terra is why they're the poster boys of the Astartes. They fed and sheltered the people after and led the reconquest of the Imperium. Other legions are even being supplied weapons and vehicles made in Ultramar and they hate it. They're hated by other legions as much as by the fans. Makes me like them tbh.

Sure, but it's also interesting in the sense that the ultramarines got fucked by the wordbearers incredibly early on, so they had time to rebuild because literally nothing else to do for years, otherwise they would have been involved for the entirety. What I found interesting about the dynamic between Guilliman and the rest in that book, was kind of like Imperium Secondus, Guilliman didn't actually want to be in charge. Even when he straight up asks his brothers to assemble and basically vote on what to do, the rest are still too busy being angry(Vulkan literally just going around angrily hunting EC and killing them one by one) and don't want to bother, to the point of Dorn setting up some goofy secret mission with the Lion and Russ, to come back with intel and "see, I told you so!" when all he had to do was just fucking talk with everybody... and instead because they didn't find the evidence wound up proving Guilliman's point and causing Russ to go fuck off by himself

 

[Defensive Ella Purnell]

Sure, but it's also interesting in the sense that the ultramarines got fucked by the wordbearers incredibly early on, so they had time to rebuild because literally nothing else to do for years, otherwise they would have been involved for the entirety. What I found interesting about the dynamic between Guilliman and the rest in that book, was kind of like Imperium Secondus, Guilliman didn't actually want to be in charge. Even when he straight up asks his brothers to assemble and basically vote on what to do, the rest are still too busy being angry(Vulkan literally just going around angrily hunting EC and killing them one by one) and don't want to bother, to the point of Dorn setting up some goofy secret mission with the Lion and Russ, to come back with intel and "see, I told you so!" when all he had to do was just fucking talk with everybody... and instead because they didn't find the evidence wound up proving Guilliman's point and causing Russ to go fuck off by himself

Yeah they did a good job rebuilding, say what you want about Girlyman but he's the final boss of administration and shit gets done.

And I agree, the tension came entirely from his brothers. He wanted to do things right and form a plan based on mutual consensus but his brothers were either prideful or wrathful. The bit at the start where Vulkan was having EC herded to him one at a time was great, he'd truly had enough haha. I was surprised by Dorn, but not by the Lion or Russ.

 

[Snekposter]

Yeah they did a good job rebuilding, say what you want about Girlyman but he's the final boss of administration and shit gets done.

And I agree, the tension came entirely from his brothers. He wanted to do things right and form a plan based on mutual consensus but his brothers were either prideful or wrathful. The bit at the start where Vulkan was having EC herded to him one at a time was great, he'd truly had enough haha. I was surprised by Dorn, but not by the Lion or Russ.

When it comes to getting fleshed out Dorn and the Khan were the big winners of the Heresy, and apparently The Scouring now as well.

I don't know how they made a man famous for autistic bluntness interesting and even human at times, but they did.

Unlike some people I wasn't surprised at all by his talents at noticing Alpharius' trickery. He's the ultimate castellan, and where siegecraft might fail to topple a castle's walls intrigue, deception, and subterfuge might rout the defenders without a single shot being fired.

 

[winderson_silva]

You know, I found someone arguing that the Imperium would not accept regimes like the Man in the High Castle's Germany or Gilead from The Handmaid's Tale.

That's so silly. The Imperium would ally with the Nazis, the Soviets, the Taliban, and the Khmer Rouge. They don't give a shit about whether you hate women or minorities; there is no "But they only approve racism against actual mutants." They will ask you to also hate mutants and aliens, but they won't ask for the end of pre-existing hatred on the planets.

Some people seem to like the Imperium only because of its aesthetics; they don't like its actual policies.

 

[harbringer883]

You know, I found someone arguing that the Imperium would not accept regimes like the Man in the High Castle's Germany or Gilead from The Handmaid's Tale.

That's so silly. The Imperium would ally with the Nazis, the Soviets, the Taliban, and the Khmer Rouge. They don't give a shit about whether you hate women or minorities; there is no "But they only approve racism against actual mutants." They will ask you to also hate mutants and aliens, but they won't ask for the end of pre-existing hatred on the planets.

Some people seem to like the Imperium only because of its aesthetics; they don't like its actual policies.

Are you retarded? The imperium would look at all those factions and see one thing. That they don't worship the God Emperor or submit to His Imperium, and then promptly subjugate/exterminate them.

 

[Defensive Ella Purnell]

You know, I found someone arguing that the Imperium would not accept regimes like the Man in the High Castle's Germany or Gilead from The Handmaid's Tale.

That's so silly. The Imperium would ally with the Nazis, the Soviets, the Taliban, and the Khmer Rouge. They don't give a shit about whether you hate women or minorities; there is no "But they only approve racism against actual mutants." They will ask you to also hate mutants and aliens, but they won't ask for the end of pre-existing hatred on the planets.

Some people seem to like the Imperium only because of its aesthetics; they don't like its actual policies.

The polices of the Imperium are "pay your tithe, send us your psykers and uphold loyalty to the Emperor" and anything beyond that is generally up to the planetary governors. There are peaceful worlds where everyone isn't working 18 hour days and being turned into corpse starch but for every one of them who knows how many have all sorts of totalitarian ruling regimes.

 

[harbringer883]

The polices of the Imperium are "pay your tithe, send us your psykers and uphold loyalty to the Emperor" and anything beyond that is generally up to the planetary governors. There are peaceful worlds where everyone isn't working 18 hour days and being turned into corpse starch but for every one of them who knows how many have all sorts of totalitarian ruling regimes.

Everyone forgets that the majority of imperial worlds are normal places, producing a variety of agricultural/industrial goods with a slightly higher tech level than us, with the tithe coming every 10 years or so, maybe a regiment raised, and where entire generations will go on with no major issues beyond local political disputes. Mind you, all the imperial governor does in most cases is manage the tithe/wider affairs with the imperium, books like Gaunts Ghosts show us that below him, there are often distinct nations/cultural groups on planets who are left to their own affairs, so long they worship the Emperor and pay the tithe.