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Duncan Hills Coffee said:
I've always been interested in 40k, but I have neither the time nor money to invest into the game. I see people here reference the lore all the time, and I recently found out there's a bunch of books based on the 40k universe, and they're held in high regard by the fans. What I want to ask is, what books would you all recommend to someone who is trying to break into the series for the first time?
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If you want to start on how things went to shit, start with the Horus Heresy series.
If you want a stand-alone, but awe-inspiring book, go with Helsreach.

I also picked up the Word Bearers Omnibus, too, but I haven't had the time to crack it open.
I'm also thinking of picking up the Sons of the Hydra and Shroud of the Night books.
I've heard mixed reviews on them, but I want to check them out.
 
Duncan Hills Coffee said:
I've always been interested in 40k, but I have neither the time nor money to invest into the game. I see people here reference the lore all the time, and I recently found out there's a bunch of books based on the 40k universe, and they're held in high regard by the fans. What I want to ask is, what books would you all recommend to someone who is trying to break into the series for the first time?
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I think having a baseline of the world is better than jumping into the Horus Heresy.

Honestly, I recommend 1d4chan. It has a ton of quick and digestible lore information. If you're familiar enough to get the humor, its much more palatable than some of the more serious lore wikis. Just to get a baseline, go over the major powers in the lore, and from there come back and ask for recommendations that sounds good to you.

If the fall of the Imperium from it's high of the Great Crusade, and the Primarchs are really interesting to you, the Horus Heresy is good, but it's like 60+ books at this point and I think really for an invested reader.

If you like the grittiness of the Imperial Guard, men no different than you with some of the worst gear facing down the horrors of the universe, Gaunt's Ghosts.

If you like some of the more silly nature of the early lore, Ciaphas Cain is wonderful.(also, not canon, but I'm in love with the retelling of an RPG campaing of "The All Guardsman Party". Despite being unofficial its a wonderfully funny mostly lore accurate piece of fan fiction"

If you want a really dark and gritty, but less war focused story, Eisenhorn tetraology is amazing, followed by the good but much less awesome Ravenor trilogy.
 
Polyboros2 said:
If you like some of the more silly nature of the early lore, Ciaphas Cain is wonderful.(also, not canon, but I'm in love with the retelling of an RPG campaing of "The All Guardsman Party". Despite being unofficial its a wonderfully funny mostly lore accurate piece of fan fiction"
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How uncanon is Cain these days? Aside from the fact that its place in M42 canon is now dubious due to the shitfest that splintered the current imperium.
 
Kane Lives said:
How uncanon is Cain these days? Aside from the fact that its place in M42 canon is now dubious due to the shitfest that splintered the current imperium.
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Cain is never uncanon, he just mis-remembers.

Honestly though, I'm a couple books in and the only thing I can think of off the top of my head is some wonkiness with how blanks work in relation to certain races.
 
Also gonna throw out that the GG books are some of the most shameless historical-event-but-in-space shit ever, with the Ghosts using .30 and .50 caliber weapons, and halftracks and stahlhelms for the bad guys. Its very obvious the Ghosts are a bunch of Brythonic Commandoes in space fucking up Chaos Germans, especially when they start up the pipes prior to battle. No kilts though, disappointingly, but I think there's a few tartans, and definitely plenty of illegally distilled not-Scotch.
 
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What the fuck do they mean by this?
 
Love_Machine011 said:
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What the fuck do they mean by this?
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They are more of a mechanical beast than an aircraft. They also don’t have the rules that other flyers have like supersonic or hard to hit.

Heldrakes are meant to fly across the battlefield and either charge an unsuspecting ground target or rip through a flyer in the air (Heldrakes get +1 to hit against units with the FLY keyword).

So Heldrakes are not getting acces to any of the new aircraft rules.
 
Imperial Citizen said:
They are more of a mechanical beast than an aircraft. They also don’t have the rules that other flyers have like supersonic or hard to hit.

Heldrakes are meant to fly across the battlefield and either charge an unsuspecting ground target or rip through a flyer in the air (Heldrakes get +1 to hit against units with the FLY keyword).

So Heldrakes are not getting acces to any of the new aircraft rules.
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So these rules are literally just for eldar and imperium players?
 
Duncan Hills Coffee said:
I've always been interested in 40k, but I have neither the time nor money to invest into the game. I see people here reference the lore all the time, and I recently found out there's a bunch of books based on the 40k universe, and they're held in high regard by the fans. What I want to ask is, what books would you all recommend to someone who is trying to break into the series for the first time?
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You could always try out Kill Team, nudge nudge.
 
Polyboros2 said:
Cain is never uncanon, he just mis-remembers.

Honestly though, I'm a couple books in and the only thing I can think of off the top of my head is some wonkiness with how blanks work in relation to certain races.
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Well considering the blank in question you can always substitute physic blank for foul smell adversely effecting certain races.

Its been a while since I read them but I don't think Cain breaks with the new M42 canon since he doesn't explore it at all. I think the only things we know that happen in M42 from Cain are he writes his memoirs and dies of old age having a nice funeral service befitting a Hero of the Imperium.
 
Spooky Bones said:
I second checking our 1d4chan. I'm an editor there. It's fundamentally non serious but will get you turned on to some of the lore and it's done with an infectious enthusiasm. Spoilers abound though if you're the type of person to be bothered by that.
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Do you know what happened with the site? It looks like a really older version, and I noticed some pages went missing.
 
Burned Man said:
Well considering the blank in question you can always substitute physic blank for foul smell adversely effecting certain races.

Its been a while since I read them but I don't think Cain breaks with the new M42 canon since he doesn't explore it at all. I think the only things we know that happen in M42 from Cain are he writes his memoirs and dies of old age having a nice funeral service befitting a Hero of the Imperium.
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It might not even be M42. Probably one of the most interesting things to come out the new lore is that nobody knows what the current time is. Really shows how fucked the Imperium is when there is no set understanding of time.
 
Spooky Bones said:
I second checking our 1d4chan. I'm an editor there. It's fundamentally non serious but will get you turned on to some of the lore and it's done with an infectious enthusiasm. Spoilers abound though if you're the type of person to be bothered by that.
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I love the Matt Ward article.
It's hilarious!
 
Burned Man said:
Well considering the blank in question you can always substitute physic blank for foul smell adversely effecting certain races.

Its been a while since I read them but I don't think Cain breaks with the new M42 canon since he doesn't explore it at all. I think the only things we know that happen in M42 from Cain are he writes his memoirs and dies of old age having a nice funeral service befitting a Hero of the Imperium.
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Technically, he does detail the politics of Imperial space closest to Tau and Segmentum Ultima in general. (IIRC, one of the few books that do so in any manner.) But of course, the Imperium being so huge, it's probably easy to simply incorporate into the lore since no other books go in that direction.
 
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