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I actually don't like the centurions 🤷‍♂️. It feels like Termies got forgotten in power creep and they gave the role to someone else. I know it doesn't make sense next to my enjoyment of Warsuits. Take the waist out and make it a squat unit and I'm ok, but for Space Marines I think they are dumb
i can understand the sentiment, especially given the fact that termies are basically the troop under dreadnoughts.
Space marines have too many vehicle and armor options already, nobody can deny this.
agreed, though is there anything they can bring over from the 30k selection?
 
i can understand the sentiment, especially given the fact that termies are basically the troop under dreadnoughts.

agreed, though is there anything they can bring over from the 30k selection?

Didn't Forge World come out with books that list the units you can bring from 30k into 40k, like Relic Contemptor Dreadnoughts or Hellforged Contemptor Dreadnoughts?
 
Didn't Forge World come out with books that list the units you can bring from 30k into 40k, like Relic Contemptor Dreadnoughts or Hellforged Contemptor Dreadnoughts?

Yup. Those were the Imperial Armour indexes. They had 40K rules for Contemptors, Leviathans, 30K Custodes and SoS units, and all the neato FW tanks like Sicarans and Fellblades and Achilles-pattern Land Raiders. The indexes are gone now, and IIRC they're planning to include those rules in the main codexes going forward.
 
While I agree Space Marines get too many toys, I still like it more than most of their kit from Indominus box, and like the flavor of a dreadnaught light that doesn't require a cripple.

That is the entire point of Terminators, the Warsuit still provides nothing as far as I'm concerned. Stealth is meant to be left to the Scouts, as is the purpose of having less armour and previously exclusive sniper rifles; not some stupid Rumble-in-the-Jungle machine.

There's simply too much bloat and not enough reduction. Have they pilfered their own copy of Warp Spiders yet? Because that's about the only thing I can recall that Space Marines didn't have from the Eldar. Guess they'll be getting Crisis Battlesuits after that.
 
Well, back in the RT days Dreadnoughts were piloted like any other machine and didn't need the dude to be wired in, so, less stupid than you think. Just so long as it doesn't get jump jets like the Tau do...
 
Well, back in the RT days Dreadnoughts were piloted like any other machine and didn't need the dude to be wired in, so, less stupid than you think. Just so long as it doesn't get jump jets like the Tau do...

Already got one of those. The Contemptor Incaendius has a one-use jump pack.

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Which is honestly fine considering its a GC era murder-mecha that looks like a one-trick pony from the image. Not exactly Ward's flying Librarian Dreadnoughts.
 
That is the entire point of Terminators, the Warsuit still provides nothing as far as I'm concerned. Stealth is meant to be left to the Scouts, as is the purpose of having less armour and previously exclusive sniper rifles; not some stupid Rumble-in-the-Jungle machine.

There's simply too much bloat and not enough reduction. Have they pilfered their own copy of Warp Spiders yet? Because that's about the only thing I can recall that Space Marines didn't have from the Eldar. Guess they'll be getting Crisis Battlesuits after that.

I feel like terminators haven't grown with centurions filling the role Termies should, and two wound primaris, 3 wound in Gravis armor, making them not feel so special.

I see the Invictus as more akin to IG sentinels than a tough walking tank.

Well, back in the RT days Dreadnoughts were piloted like any other machine and didn't need the dude to be wired in, so, less stupid than you think. Just so long as it doesn't get jump jets like the Tau do...

IIRC in Rogue Trader, didn't you get to choose how many limbs the space marine chose to amputate to have better control over the dreadnaught?
 
Well, back in the RT days Dreadnoughts were piloted like any other machine and didn't need the dude to be wired in, so, less stupid than you think. Just so long as it doesn't get jump jets like the Tau do...

I think that change was better, and gave the Dreadnought models way more character. At least then you don't deal with a Space Marine going, "Gee, I don't think my POWER ARMOUR is good enough. Let me get inside my SUPER-THICK ARMOUR walker while in my POWER ARMOUR." Feels like some kind of stupid joke involving Matryoshka Dolls.

I feel like terminators haven't grown with centurions filling the role Termies should, and two wound primaris, 3 wound in Gravis armor, making them not feel so special.

I see the Invictus as more akin to IG sentinels than a tough walking tank.

Agreed. Perhaps if they upgraded the Terminator model in a more meaningful way it would have been better, but Terminators just seem like they're shrinking down to middle ground fare rather than the zenith warriors they should be.
 
Well, there's always that super-duper Tartaros Pattern(?) armor that showed up during the height of the GC that was 3+/5++ with a full six inch move and sweeping advance that Terminators might end up getting thanks to FUCKING CAWL and his ASS-PULL ARCHAEOTECH.
 
All this talk about dreadnoughts, when the perfect one already exists.
 

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You know, I think I'm gonna sell my Necrons. GW is cementing their lighter tone in 9th. The only Necrons that are still cool to me are Flayed Ones, and I can't build too much on those alone.
 
You know, I think I'm gonna sell my Necrons. GW is cementing their lighter tone in 9th. The only Necrons that are still cool to me are Flayed Ones, and I can't build too much on those alone.
why not just play with one of the older editions,say 5th? i mean surely theres others about who are doing the same.
 
So how many people are planning to get the new box set? Im still sorta on the fence about it. I was planning on using the marines obviously, but still not sure about the necrons. Im the kinda guy that doesnt like reselling hobby material, so I would have to figure out something to do with them.
 
So how many people are planning to get the new box set? Im still sorta on the fence about it. I was planning on using the marines obviously, but still not sure about the necrons. Im the kinda guy that doesnt like reselling hobby material, so I would have to figure out something to do with them.

I've been getting closer and closer to tipping over the fence on starting an army. Like getting a squad just to paint and see how it goes. I've signed up for a few giveaways of the box set as a sort of "If the Emporer wills it, my wallet will serve," in that I'd probably buy more to make the army I'd like.

But considering if I were to make an army, it'd be a Raptors chapter Space Marine army... it's not a good fit. I feel like that box set wants to be Blood Angels with the Bladeguard, Chainsword Intercessors, Judicar, Sword and Stormshield Captain and Lieutenant. This is speaking as someone who has minimal understanding of play and would be more driven by flavor to what I'd want in an army, the Eradicators seem interesting, the bikes, chaplain, and Lieutenant would be a maybe include.

Also in today's 9th edition Ork article:
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Looks like Eradicators are Primaris Devistators with a Plasma Canon and Heavy Bolter option.

Wait...

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Is that an Eradicator Sargent with a Plasma Cannon and a Plasma Pistol? By the Emporer I hope that mad man gets a stratagem to explode on a six like a fucking vehicle carrying that much plasma.

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I've seen exploding vehicles really swing a fight(against the opponent and the owner) and that seems really strong. Definitely can't bunch anything of value too close together with Kamikaze Orks on the field.
 
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I've been getting closer and closer to tipping over the fence on starting an army. Like getting a squad just to paint and see how it goes. I've signed up for a few giveaways of the box set as a sort of "If the Emporer wills it, my wallet will serve," in that I'd probably buy more to make the army I'd like.

But considering if I were to make an army, it'd be a Raptors chapter Space Marine army... it's not a good fit. I feel like that box set wants to be Blood Angels with the Bladeguard, Chainsword Intercessors, Judicar, Sword and Stormshield Captain and Lieutenant. This is speaking as someone who has minimal understanding of play and would be more driven by flavor to what I'd want in an army, the Eradicators seem interesting, the bikes, chaplain, and Lieutenant would be a maybe include.

Also in today's 9th edition Ork article:
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Looks like Eradicators are Primaris Devistators with a Plasma Canon and Heavy Bolter option.

Wait...

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Is that an Eradicator Sargent with a Plasma Cannon and a Plasma Pistol? By the Emporer I hope that mad man gets a stratagem to explode on a six like a fucking vehicle carrying that much plasma.

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I've seen exploding vehicles really swing a fight(against the opponent and the owner) and that seems really strong. Definitely can't bunch anything of value too close together with Kamikaze Orks on the field.
Yea my space marine flavor of choice are Blood Angels, I guess Ill do it. Maybe Ill just make a little force of necrons to fuck around with.
 
Yea my space marine flavor of choice are Blood Angels, I guess Ill do it. Maybe Ill just make a little force of necrons to fuck around with.

They'll probably benefit the most from it, though White Scars is probably going to really appreciate those 4 wound Outriders in general.
 
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