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There are male sob, called Fraternis militia. They just aren't allowed as an army anymore after the Vandire fun times.

So they are now just a few armed monks that sometimes protect a priest, little more than a militia with small arms.
Basically all they can do is scare off robbers and gangers, and are more like mall cops than a fighting force.

So yes kween slay, girly church army is way stronger.

Redemptionists are kind of their crazy cousins.


Also, no trannies. Crazy sex stuff is haram for the imperials.
Though I guess a crazy noble could just have his brain put in some unfortunate and totally not kidnapped woman's body.

Callidus are shapeshifters, not sure if that counts.
 
Though I guess a crazy noble could just have his brain put in some unfortunate and totally not kidnapped woman's body.
That’s an unfortunate possibility.
Callidus are shapeshifters, not sure if that counts.
They’re generally women. There was also that really weird story about how one kidnapped the child of a rebellious governor…
 
There are male sob, called Fraternis militia. They just aren't allowed as an army anymore after the Vandire fun times.

So they are now just a few armed monks that sometimes protect a priest, little more than a militia with small arms.
Basically all they can do is scare off robbers and gangers, and are more like mall cops than a fighting force.

So yes kween slay, girly church army is way stronger.

Redemptionists are kind of their crazy cousins.


Also, no trannies. Crazy sex stuff is haram for the imperials.
Though I guess a crazy noble could just have his brain put in some unfortunate and totally not kidnapped woman's body.

Callidus are shapeshifters, not sure if that counts.
The Frateris Militia are technically illegal, as are the various militant priest orders, but they're small enough in size nobody is quite willing to make a fuss, and having a bunch of highly faithful stabby dudes is as useful as you can imagine, even if or especially they're not Space Marines.
Also, no trannies. Crazy sex stuff is haram for the imperials.
Though I guess a crazy noble could just have his brain put in some unfortunate and totally not kidnapped woman's body.
No need for kidnapping given what a noble likely has at his disposal in terms of archaeotech. Or he could just order a clone body since not every servitor and servo-skull was once an actual person.
They’re generally women. There was also that really weird story about how one kidnapped the child of a rebellious governor…
That is hardly the weirdest given that there was also the one who disguised herself as a gretchin, and the one implanted with stuff to let her look like a Genestealer hybrid. Oh, and the Inquisitor she hung out with had the hots for her. In both of her forms, IIRC. Oh, and there is that canonically non-binary Callidus, although that's more to do with their countless disguises having obliterated all sense of self.
 
There was one book where a techpriest had the silly pronouns infection, which was stupidly retarded, as machines already have a pronoun, 'it' which is quite pleasing to the machine cultists. Especially since its objective was self admittedly to distance itself from silly flesh things like sex and having organs at all.
 
So with the raise to 2 damage and now Orks getting the T5 boost are Heavy Bolters the new go to guard heavy weapon?
 
So the real question is: would trannies be considered men? Old 40k, a tranny would be burned at the stake, the Ecclesiarchy wasn't exactly known for it's tolerance of free expression or deviation from the norm (also sexual deviancy is a sign of Slaneshi corruption), now modern 40k however...
None of them would be getting any surgery, though by 40K there might be technology that does allow for complete sex transition so maybe it would be available for the elite. I could see a hive noble turning his daughter into a son to continue on the lineage.

But for anyone suffering gender dysphoria, they are fucked. They won’t get help, but I don’t anyone but the most insane eclessiarchy would go out of their way to kill them. AGPs though; they are getting burned at the next church service.
 

Yup. Finn Arnesen.

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Fucking Hasbro.
It's already bad enough they pozzed G.I. Joe, now one of their diseased tards is over in GW.
I guess it was a matter of time.
The minute 40K goes pozzed, I'll stick to previous versions of the game.

Also, archive of IP guidelines:

That is hardly the weirdest given that there was also the one who disguised herself as a gretchin, and the one implanted with stuff to let her look like a Genestealer hybrid. Oh, and the Inquisitor she hung out with had the hots for her. In both of her forms, IIRC. Oh, and there is that canonically non-binary Callidus, although that's more to do with their countless disguises having obliterated all sense of self.
Why must you remind me of Jaq Draco's disputed existence?
 
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Fucking Hasbro.
It's already bad enough they pozzed G.I. Joe, now one of their diseased tards is over in GW.
I guess it was a matter of time.
The minute 40K goes pozzed, I'll stick to previous versions of the game.

Also, archive of IP guidelines:

That's probably the nicest thing about tabletops. A modern game can get patched and have the fun sucked out of it and that's that, but no one can stop you from playing past editions with your buds.
 
None of them would be getting any surgery, though by 40K there might be technology that does allow for complete sex transition so maybe it would be available for the elite. I could see a hive noble turning his daughter into a son to continue on the lineage.
Golden Age of Technology is the magic wand of 40K so possible. Well if they can do it immediately after birth maybe and it will have to be a complete rewriting of the DNA, which begs the question why not just make a boy to begin with? There is a a subset of the Sister of Battle, one of their non-militant wings the Orders Famulous. Officially they're like the Bene Gesserit from Dune or the maester from Game of Thrones, serving as an advisory and diplomatic role to the nobility. They're also technically space maids, helping to raise the children in Imperial Cult... but their job is also to check for heresy and to keep a extensive genetic record of the nobility in order to trace possible mutation and genetic deviation.
But a minor noble house could get away with this, the Order Famulous is assigned to to the most important nobles first and there's only so many to go around.
 
but this is an even better meta-thing because now we can have some bullshit Grant Morrison type moment where Slaanesh is looking at the reader and telling them he's already infected your reality.
Do an image search for "demon drag queen" and tell me that Slaanesh has not already infected our reality.
 
Oh no, with all these implied crack downs on fan content GW is planning, I hope they don't take down my Roboute Guilliman/Illiyanne Natase gay fanfic.
If they copyright strike it, that makes it canon.

Also volafile is kill, very sad. Looking for more places to grab pdfs and epubs.

Irt the 40k troon debate
The technology of 40k is effectively sorcery, a little like if someone went back to BC times with current tech. Saying the Imperium would automatically burn troons at the stake is frankly silly when juvenat and other body modifications are readily available if you have the money and means. I'd think the only broad caveat is if you're loyal (or giving lots of money) or not. There's no doubt they'd be able to reconfigure the body on probably even a DNA level, it's just that nobody would care and it wouldn't be special or weird. The thing about current year troons is they want attention, validation and special privileges, that's what wouldn't be tolerated.
 
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As to most 40k things, nobles can do what a peasant can not.

If Baron von Futanich wants to be a teenage girl, he'll get his brain put in that body.

If a factory worker turns out to be a faggot , he will become a literal flaming faggot if he isn't down low as fuck.

Remember, the commoners of 40k aren't californians but medieval peasants. Marry at 16 to the opposite sex, have 10 kids. 2 die of hive smog, some from gang warfare, some get conscripted to the PDF, etc, with 2-3 remaining to aid the old couple because there is no pension for proles.
 
Remember, the commoners of 40k aren't californians but medieval peasants. Marry at 16 to the opposite sex, have 10 kids. 2 die of hive smog, some from gang warfare, some get conscripted to the PDF, etc, with 2-3 remaining to aid the old couple because there is no pension for proles.
Reminds me of arctic geese whose retarded evolution led to them nesting on sheer cliffs. As soon as they hatch the chicks need to make a freefall jump and bounce off rocks and shit, hopefully in the right direction and also not get trapped, all while predators wait for a chance. If at least one makes it, that's pretty good.
 
Golden Age of Technology is the magic wand of 40K so possible. Well if they can do it immediately after birth maybe and it will have to be a complete rewriting of the DNA, which begs the question why not just make a boy to begin with? There is a a subset of the Sister of Battle, one of their non-militant wings the Orders Famulous. Officially they're like the Bene Gesserit from Dune or the maester from Game of Thrones, serving as an advisory and diplomatic role to the nobility. They're also technically space maids, helping to raise the children in Imperial Cult... but their job is also to check for heresy and to keep a extensive genetic record of the nobility in order to trace possible mutation and genetic deviation.
But a minor noble house could get away with this, the Order Famulous is assigned to to the most important nobles first and there's only so many to go around.
Enough bribery donations to the Ecclesiarchy and that Sister Famulous might see things your way. "For the good of the Imperium my kid gets gender-bent" and all that. After all, if there's no actual mutation but some merely some ambiguously-okay archaeotech and its all logged for later (very, very securely and in some very deep vaults) just in case of actual mutation...
Saying the Imperium would automatically burn troons at the stake is frankly kind of cope when juvenat and other body modifications are readily available if you have the money and means. I'd think the only broad caveat is if you're loyal (or giving lots of money) or not. There's no doubt they'd be able to reconfigure the body on probably even a DNA level, it's just that nobody would care and it wouldn't be special or weird.
Eh... its a big deal for tracking inheritances and the like, recording mutations, and even enforcing rulings of the Adeptus Arbites. The sins of the great-great-great-great-great-grandfather are the sins of the son as far as the Arbites are concerned.
If a factory worker turns out to be a faggot , he will become a literal flaming faggot if he isn't down low as fuck.
Eh... the IoM is largely acceptable with homosexuality. Just don't make a big deal out of it and nobody's going to care too much. One of the Valhallan 597th is a semi-open butch lesbian, but she's good at her job of killing heretics and xenos and breaking their shit so everyone looks the other way whenever she requests a transfer to whatever squad her lover got assigned to in the inevitable post-battle reassignments.
 
That is the military with prison gay surely being a thing, with a rather lax commissar.

And yeah, that's how medieval family worked. Shitload of kids, if a quarter die of disease, a quarter from violence, you stull got 3-4 kids left.

Works for Imperium, as Guardsmen are always needed.
 
There was one book where a techpriest had the silly pronouns infection, which was stupidly retarded, as machines already have a pronoun, 'it' which is quite pleasing to the machine cultists. Especially since its objective was self admittedly to distance itself from silly flesh things like sex and having organs at all.
Gav ‘fucktard SJW squatkiller’ Thorpe. The pronouns in question were ve/vis/ver and the novel was Imperator: Wrath of the Omnissiah.
Gav Thorpe has done more than anything else to turn me off 40K and I bought my first Space Marine models back in 1986, long before Rogue Trader was even released.
 
Its a shame because Gav Thorpe used to be pretty awesome. Shit like Last Chancers and IIRC the 5e Deldar dex were his doing.
Nah, he’s a cunt. Not fit to lick Rick Priestley or Andy Chambers’ boots. You give Rick or Andy the chance to write a rule book and you get Rogue Trader, Necromunda, 40K 4th Ed, or Mordheim. Give Vag the chance to write a rule book and you get Inquisitor. Remember Inquisitor? It’s okay if you don’t- neither does anyone else. Probably the least successful game GW ever released. Ve’s a vucking vanker.
Not saying your opinion is wrong, just that mine is different.
 
Saying the Imperium would automatically burn troons at the stake is frankly silly when juvenat and other body modifications are readily available if you have the money and means.
The Imperium is not unified, so it's specifically the Ecclesiarchy. You know the Evil Space Catholics x1000. The Ecclesiarchy do have an awareness of Chaos, Chaos acts upon the individuals indulging in their freedoms (except Nurgle, he's kinda weird). The solution then is to not allow people freedom, not to allow them free expression, or much individuality. If you're entire day exists out of working, sleeping, praying and a few minutes to eat (generally shitty food) then you don't have time to join a Khorne speed metal band or Slaanishi drug den. There is admittedly some variety from world to world, but I'd say any work with a notable Ecclesiarchy presence the stake option is very likely end when a priest sees some some kind of Ogryn in a dress telling people to respect it's gender pronoun.
Also there is rarely modification done in the Imperium for aesthetic reasons, outside of the Mechanicus (and arguable even there how focussed they are on looks). The reason for augmentation and modification is largely functional. Genetically enhanced soldiers are modified for war, if a citizen loses an arm or a leg a cheap and dirty mechanical replacement is slapped on so that they can continue working. Rejuvenation technology would also fall under the functional, since the goal is extending life and presumably quality of life.

The best possible chance would be for the nobility to maybe get away with this, since they are offered more freedom and less supervision but even then they'll like get a visit from the Inquisition and at that point it's a coin flip.

People forget that 40K isn't really a nice place to be and that's fine, it totally can be a horrible, intolerant place and it's fine to want to engage in that because it is all fictional. Not all entertainment has to have the same core values, or present some kind of moral lesson, or even invoke the same feelings. I watch dumb 80s action movies because it's exciting, I watch horror movies because I want to be scared or be exposed to things that creep me out or make me uncomfortable, I watch comedies because I want to laugh (but recent years comedy has failed to do that...). There really is no reason fiction should always be representative of modern norms and morality, in fact fiction is best (in my opinion) if it allows you to experience things very much outside of what you can experience yourself, different worlds, different ideas etc.

Gav ‘fucktard SJW squatkiller’ Thorpe. The pronouns in question were ve/vis/ver and the novel was Imperator: Wrath of the Omnissiah.
Old lore vs new lore. Or maybe rather interjecting modern day into a non-modern day setting. It the equivalent to having a story set in medieval Europe and having a character greet another character with "Yo dog what ups?".
But it is admittedly difficult to say with the Mechanicus, they're all over the place lore wise, sometimes they're legitimately technologically illiterate working with barely understood technology, other times they're hyper advance, constantly experimenting and innovating.
Getting a good grasp on their core beliefs is really difficult because they seemingly don't have any (all up to the author then), and unlike other Imperial organisation there isn't really much of a real world analogue to draw on. The Ecclesiarchy are evil space Catholics, the Adminstratum are hyper incompetent bureaucrats, etc. But sadly there isn't a real-world analogue to the toaster enthusiastic.
 
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