Was ethics in games journalism really worth starting the roll towards this dark timeline?

[PeggieBigCock]

Who knew that a shitty game on Steam would start the forward march towards the new world order?

 

[The Lawgiver]

Haha yes.

 

[dilettante]

I think Gamergate gave SJWs something like a justification for them politically correcting all media in the public eye and then extending to people in their personal lives. Bullying works, but only if you go all in. If Gamergate actually shut up the PC police I'd have a lot more respect for it but I don't at all, its just embarrassing (but entertaining).

However, Gamergate definitely popularised nerdy white males transitioning, though we should have seen that coming since the metrosexual 00s and declining marriage/birth rates. Add this newfound hatred towards the straight white cis male by females, and inceldom, and transitioning seems like a convenient way to gain female admiration, which is not quite romance but is better than hatred.

 

[Pixy]

Video games are quite the effective opiate of the people. You can spend hour after hour after hour of doing nothing but flip bits in algorithms while feeling good about having "accomplished something" in-game. It is the ultimate method of keeping young men complacent. If video games did not exist we'd already have a revolt on our hands.

Television exists. After that, hanging out in 'youth gangs' just walking around aimlessly at the local shopping centre.

 

[DJ Grelle]

Television exists. After that, hanging out in 'youth gangs' just walking around aimlessly at the local shopping centre.

Television too, has its bad qualities in it's calming, almost meditative aspect. It's a very good propaganda medium.
Hanging around aimlessly is boring.
Video games give a sense of accomplishment for flipping bits, which in the long term is ruinous for young men.

 

[Sperghetti]

I have to agree with the others who said it was inevitable.

The makings of the conflict were already there. You had a lot of “nerdy” stuff suddenly becoming major pop culture influences, and a large portion of it was stuff like video games and comic books that has long been associated with an audience of heterosexual white men. Simultaneously, you also had the entitled SJWs than inhabited Tumblr being pissed that they weren’t the cool kids. They wanted to like all this nerdy stuff, but they ultimately didn’t like it for what it was and wanted it to be re-tooled to suit their sensibilities.

Unfortunately, geek culture in general is pretty much primed for the sort of drama triangle that GG was: As soon as you have a Victim coming in claiming that they’re feeling excluded, you’re going to have no shortage of people wanting to be Rescuers and fall all over themselves to make that Victim feel welcome, and anybody who doesn’t is going to be branded as the Persecutor because excluding people is wrong. (Not to mention that a lot of these hobby circles already had a negative stereotype of the "fanboy" who didn't like changes or reboots.)

Another problem is that all major media outlets are incestuous like that. You are never going to get unbiased reviews from any sort of corporately-owned media platform, because they're all going to be trading favors and reviewing stuff that their acquaintances worked on. Regardless of what they try to portray, these industries nearly always have a very small pool of people working in their influential positions, making it impossible to avoid conflicts of interest.

If it hadn't happened over Quinn's dumb game, it would have absolutely been something else. It was only a matter of time.

 

[Absolutego]

The only real consequence of GamerGate (that isn't limited to fringe spastics on the internet) is the fact that it taught checkmark twitter that targeting advertisers was a good way to deplatform people.
Operation Disrespectful Nod bled Gawker to the tune of seven figures of advert revenue, sure, but they probably would've lost their lawsuit against Hogan anyways. I mean hell, one of their senior editors was self-absorbed enough to think it was a good idea to sarcastically say he'd publish any 5+ year old's sex tape on the stand. They were doomed regardless.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Gamergate was nothing more than a bunch of white spastics threatening women and girls with violence because they think gaming should be male only.

We all saw it.

I don't know who this "we" is, but you should have gotten glasses.

Today's generation of White males are perpetual children. And then you wonder why so many women hate you and why you're dying out..

Yeah, white men must have really screwed the pooch for white women to end up at a point where it was more preferable to... screw the pooch.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

an authoritarian-collectivist technocracy

I hope that bullshit "New World Order" ends before it really takes off.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

I always thought video game journalists were hacks so I didn’t give a fuck.

 

[Kacho]

These people were always going to do what they're doing now, none of it was caused by GamerGate. The difference caused by GamerGate, and other events like Trump's election, is that they were forced to accelerate their plans. Meeting with resistance caused them to panic and drop the mask and allowed many people to see behind the curtain and understand what they truly are and what they want to do. I know this happened because it happened to me. Their destructive behavior might seem like victory in the short term but it's unsustainable and in the medium to long term will manifest as self destruction and collapse. Coaxing them into being insane and unreasonable is the answer, and having done this is probably the one real achievement of GamerGate, even if it was unintentional.

Trust me, this isn't the dark timeline. The dark timeline is the one where the enemies of humanity are actually competent and aren't self defeating blind ideologues. This timeline is one of the better ones where they constantly hurt themselves on our behalf and we'll get to the other side much sooner than we might have otherwise. If evil people have to exist, these are the evil people you want to be stuck with. They're the real life version of monologuing comic book villains. Viewing these people as undefeatable and permanent is fetishistic masochistic doomer fantasy nonsense.

tldr stop being such a doomer faggot

 

[Uncle Buck]

Oh come on. Everyone knows this stuff actually started with the '92 LA Riots [you know, the ones with a certain demographic assaulting police officers for daring to attempt to collect unpaid utility bills]... which directly led to a guy leading police on a high speed chase across multiple counties while drunk and high on PCP and, finally, violently resisting arrest... which led directly into a beloved media personality being "framed" for murdering his wife and a nice young waiter in cold blood... which led directly into that nice young man from Arkansas being "framed" for getting a handy in the Oval Office while married to that harpy... what's her name? Which all, you know, directly led to that nice young man in the hooded sweatshirt who just happened to be walking along one day and for no reason at all decided to viciously assault a man who did nothing more than try to find out who he was as he was a stranger in the community......

 

[Dyn]

God I hate white people.

 

[Octavia]

If it never happened, I wouldn't be able to laugh at Ralph totalling his car today. So yes. It's worth it.

 

[Freya]

I don't know who this "we" is, but you should have gotten glasses.


Yeah, white men must have really screwed the pooch for white women to end up at a point where it was more preferable to... screw the pooch.

this guy cant stop thinking about bestiality

 

[Fougaro]

Was ethics in games journalism really worth starting the roll towards this dark timeline?​

No. But not listening to Sargon was. If only we had read Locke...

 

[JoshPlz]

Symptom, not cause.

 

[L50LasPak]

 

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

I'm tired of bitches that can't fry a fucking egg

Its not hard to throw a used tampon in the microwave.

 

[Fentanyl Floyd]

Gamergate was nothing more than a bunch of white spastics threatening women and girls with violence because they think gaming should be male only.

We all saw it.

No one gave a fuck in the 80s and 90s. It was just a fun hobby that both males and females enjoyed.

Let people play and make games regardless of their sex. You don't have to buy them or play them. It doesn't impact you at all. Buy and play the games you like. It's not fucking rocket science.

Today's generation of White males are perpetual children. And then you wonder why so many women hate you and why you're dying out..

lol go outside

 

[Dom Cruise]

Video games are quite the effective opiate of the people. You can spend hour after hour after hour of doing nothing but flip bits in algorithms while feeling good about having "accomplished something" in-game. It is the ultimate method of keeping young men complacent. If video games did not exist we'd already have a revolt on our hands.

Yeah, I'd be inclined to agree. Stefan Molyneux once described video games as "the black market of male achievement", and while I disagree with Molyneux on almost everything, I think he was on to something there. They're more important than people give them credit for, and "gaining complacence" is one of the reasons why it always worries me when pro-technocrat and pro-transhuman journos start gushing about "gamefying" non-game aspects of society. The media has replaced the church as the opiate which the ruling class administers to the people, and games are potentially the most effective form of media.

They're ruining it as any sort of effective opiate for young men though, the feminization of it only continues, they've really started to charge out the ass with all the DLC and adding another ten bucks to the default price and no one can even find a new console for less than 1000 dollars.

Not to mention the overall quality has gone down overall, so we may get a revolt after all.

I have to agree with the others who said it was inevitable.

The makings of the conflict were already there. You had a lot of “nerdy” stuff suddenly becoming major pop culture influences, and a large portion of it was stuff like video games and comic books that has long been associated with an audience of heterosexual white men. Simultaneously, you also had the entitled SJWs than inhabited Tumblr being pissed that they weren’t the cool kids. They wanted to like all this nerdy stuff, but they ultimately didn’t like it for what it was and wanted it to be re-tooled to suit their sensibilities.

Unfortunately, geek culture in general is pretty much primed for the sort of drama triangle that GG was: As soon as you have a Victim coming in claiming that they’re feeling excluded, you’re going to have no shortage of people wanting to be Rescuers and fall all over themselves to make that Victim feel welcome, and anybody who doesn’t is going to be branded as the Persecutor because excluding people is wrong. (Not to mention that a lot of these hobby circles already had a negative stereotype of the "fanboy" who didn't like changes or reboots.)

Another problem is that all major media outlets are incestuous like that. You are never going to get unbiased reviews from any sort of corporately-owned media platform, because they're all going to be trading favors and reviewing stuff that their acquaintances worked on. Regardless of what they try to portray, these industries nearly always have a very small pool of people working in their influential positions, making it impossible to avoid conflicts of interest.

If it hadn't happened over Quinn's dumb game, it would have absolutely been something else. It was only a matter of time.

It was definitely inevitable, the battle really started over Sarkeessian, Quinn just provided an easy excuse to try to settle the score after two years of growing tension, but if it hadn't been Quinn it would have been something else.

I remember the topic of women and video games was already a pretty big point of contention in 2013.

I hope that bullshit "New World Order" ends before it really takes off.

If you believe some conspiracy theorists the NWO has been in the works for millennia, so nothing may stop it short of a war on the scale of the world wars.

These people were always going to do what they're doing now, none of it was caused by GamerGate. The difference caused by GamerGate, and other events like Trump's election, is that they were forced to accelerate their plans. Meeting with resistance caused them to panic and drop the mask and allowed many people to see behind the curtain and understand what they truly are and what they want to do. I know this happened because it happened to me. Their destructive behavior might seem like victory in the short term but it's unsustainable and in the medium to long term will manifest as self destruction and collapse. Coaxing them into being insane and unreasonable is the answer, and having done this is probably the one real achievement of GamerGate, even if it was unintentional.

Trust me, this isn't the dark timeline. The dark timeline is the one where the enemies of humanity are actually competent and aren't self defeating blind ideologues. This timeline is one of the better ones where they constantly hurt themselves on our behalf and we'll get to the other side much sooner than we might have otherwise. If evil people have to exist, these are the evil people you want to be stuck with. They're the real life version of monologuing comic book villains. Viewing these people as undefeatable and permanent is fetishistic masochistic doomer fantasy nonsense.

tldr stop being such a doomer faggot

It happened to me too, I used to be very blue pilled, I was a big drinker of the Kool Aid of the whole Obama era vibe a decade ago, but the sheer unfairness of how they handled the situation with Gamergate was eye opening to say the least.

But I wish I shared your optimism, we've been dealing with these people for almost a solid decade and it hasn't shown any sign of abating just yet even though we're almost two years into a new decade, which is not natural, a new decade should bring change, right? But if anything Covid only gave it another shot in the arm by providing yet another wedge issue ("wear da maaaask!" "Take da vax!") to continue to divide everyone into us and them camps and the Floyd riots showed how willing they are to use good old fashioned violence.

Maybe we just need more time, but what makes you so optimistic? You are right though that these people seem to go out of their way to make enemies, like what happened with me, so maybe you are right.