Was Feminism a Mistake? - We going there

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When the lives of the women and children are prioritized on the sinking Titanic, is that because of the patriarchy or the matriarchy?

Pediatricy! Kids can't look after themselves, they need someone to wait on them hand and foot.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

It's been a disaster since the inception and letting women vote has been directly responsible for every single negative aspect of clown world. Letting them work was directly responsible for drastically lowering the value of labor and destroying the family unit leading to the last several generations being unhinged on account of having unstable home lives or non-present parents. Women's sexual liberation has lead to the breakdown of the dating world, coomerism, and the widespread disaffection of young men.

Feminism has been a fucking disaster for the wester world in every conceivable way since day one. Sure there were things that needed to change, but letting women out of the kitchen wasn't the solution.

 

[Ruin]

Honestly yea I think so. It was no doubt well intentioned but I judge a movement primarily by how much good or bad it's contributed to society and at this point it's done far more damage than actually helped people.

 

[Narutard]

Feminism made sense at first, but now it’s just a buch of femcels using it as a vehicle to blame men for all their self-inflicted issues.
The simps and incels that take them serious are a bigger problem than feminists themselves, however.

 

[AMHOLIO]

I like being able to hold a job and not have to get married and rely on a partner. I like men not being pressured to marry either. I like having my own credit card and being in charge of my own money, and not having a man worry about the money I make. I like going to a doctor who is female and being able to talk about more private concerns with them. I like a lot of the freedoms men have. I like that rape accusations are taken more seriously and prosecuted more, but not the bitches using them for self gain or revenge of course (this has been going on since the before times, see to kill a mockingbird).

I want things better for men and I would love the school system to change to accommodate boys more, but one of the reasons it doesn't is because schools don't want to put extra effort in and go "shut up and learn or you get detention", which usually favors girls over boys. Part of that isn't sexism, it's straight up neglect because hyperactive girls get screwed by it too.
Another part is trade industry discouragement. Men do better or at least are more attracted to jobs like electrician, plumbing, etc., but all schools want a fuckin' college grad instead of a dude with a successful career. You don't find women competing for sewer tech and most powerplants are a sausagefest. Conversely, you don't find more men clamoring into child care.
You also have the increase in automation and shipping factory jobs overseas. Oh, and companies using illegal immigrants as slaves so they don't have to pay people over here well for tedious jobs like picking strawberries and packaging chicken.

Basically, I really don't like that society has failed men more and more with time. I think there's a way to sort things out more evenly for both genders without trying to kill someone else. I think I get why you dislike feminism the political part and I don't like the hardcore "subjugate men" either, and I sympathize with your job struggle, but I don't think equal rights was a mistake. My beef will always lie with money grubbing corporations trying to virtue signal or cut cost.

 

[YourFriendlyLurker]

It wasn't a mistake, just as any evolutionary development is not a mistake. It is a question of adaptation of society to things that happen, feminism surged after world wars when plenty of males were just killed off. Someone needed to work on the factories and it was females. It contditioned the situation when females became more and more independant of men financially. Add here that with time people need family and each other less and less to surivive, also gradual automation of manufacturing processes and prevalation of brainwork over physical one. Like it or not, but the factors behind feminism (in its traditional meaning of equality of rights) were not ideological, it was pure economics.

Asking that question is the same as "was the process of gradual abolishement of slavery and transition to employment a mistake?" or was "the separation of church from policymaking and laws a mistake?" From the point of view of some landlord in XVI century of course it was, but for us it was rather evident process. Slave work is just less productive than a work of employed workers, nothing personal.

In other words, "mistake" is something that is made intentionally, social processes that you can't stop are not a mistake lol, they just happen.

 

[ObservingTheMadness]

I would have to say that Feminism wasn't a mistake. What ruined it was when the man-hating minority somewhat took over.

 

[BipolarPon]

Well I wish It was possible to own a house and start a faimly with only one income instead of two.

 

[Marley Rathbone]

Everyone alive comes from an equally long line of men and women. Which means all women enjoy the fruits of male privilege, and vice versa.

 

[ObservingTheMadness]

Well I wish It was possible to own a house and start a faimly with only one income instead of two.

There was a time when that was possible. Yet those days are gone.

 

[BipolarPon]

There was a time when that was possible. Yet those days are gone.

I blaming Gen X more on that than Baby Boomers.

 

[The Cunting Death]

I blaming Gen X more on that than Baby Boomers.

It's a bit of both of their faults

 

[Narutard]

I blaming Gen X more on that than Baby Boomers.

Everyone is to blame for the shit we’re in.
Boomers commercialised everything, Gen X sacralised productivity and “the economy”, Millennials pissed all their earnings away in thousands of small transactions a week because they can’t stand feeling bored, Zoomers are all bitch niggers and the jewish entertainment industry turns everyone else into brainless consumers.

Society is absolutely fucked up and no one gives a shit anymore because society doesn’t give a shit about its members anymore either.

 

[Merried Senior Comic]

Islam is right about women.

 

[Unyielding Stupidity]

I'd say so. It devalued labour by nearly doubling the workforce, essentially halving the value of labour. Which is why despite most modern families having both parents work, they're no better off than when families had a single person working when it comes to essential household costs.

 

[Alexander Thaut]

the first wave wasn't useless, the rest kinda kept the grift going.

we're still hearing about the wage gap. . .

 

[InteracialBowelSyndrome]

It's been great for corporations and governments who gained a new wage slave and taxpayer in the name of "empowerment". The nuclear family has been destroyed though. Can't help but wonder if they planned that

 

[Divine right to rule]

Is the pope a Catholic?

The current one?
Not really, no.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

It was pure cringe.

 

[Picnic_Boy]

The problem with humans of both sexes is that we're retarded and will repurpose anything to serve selfish, destructive purposes.