Was Feminism a Mistake? - We going there

[The Ugly One]

It would be a bit silly considering her salary and my salary all go into the same account, but how much should I charge her?

If it's silly to charge your wife rent because you share a bank account, then it's silly to pay her a wage for the exact same reason. Make up your mind.

 

[Wormy]

Same question can be asked about paying her a wage to do laundry and cook meals. You should probably think through this,

Hmmm, so how much should I then charge for the times I do laundry, cook, ect? The only certainty is that my own pay for cooking should be lower since she's way better at it, but what should I charge for the times I do the other chores?

Also, what's the net gain since we're basically paying from the same account back into the same account?

 

[gang weeder]

Wellllp, according to a lot of people in here, women shouldn't even be given the ability to aspire to such things.

Women should be free to aspire to whatever they want. That means they should be free to have children and focus on raising them instead of working 40+ hours a week in a globohomo widget factory. If they truly want to waste their lives in the widget factory, good on them, but they should be actually free to choose. Not shoehorned into that life by degenerates who have indoctrinated them into believing that if they do otherwise then they're badmeanevilwrongstupid.

 

[The Ugly One]

Hmmm, so how much should I then charge for the times I do laundry, cook, ect? The only certainty is that my own pay for cooking should be lower since she's way better at it, but what should I charge for the times I do the other chores?

Also, what's the net gain since we're basically paying from the same account back into the same account?

You're the one who said it's unfair that women don't get paid a cash wage for housework, not me. These are pretty basic questions that follow on your own claim that you should be able to figure out for yourself.

So, not only are the people who think housewives should be paid wages unwilling to say their husbands should charge rent, they're actually completely incapable of thinking through what this sort of transactional relationship would actually mean. Maybe, and hear me out, if you reduce the marriage relationship to a financial transaction, it's actually the woman who comes out ahead on a material basis.

Women should be free to aspire to whatever they want. That means they should be free to have children and focus on raising them instead of working 40+ hours a week in a globohomo widget factory. If they truly want to waste their lives in the widget factory, good on them, but they should be actually free to choose. Not shoehorned into that life by degenerates who have indoctrinated them into believing that if they do otherwise then they're badmeanevilwrongstupid.

Given how easily women are deceived into thinking that sterilizing themselves and becoming cubicle drones will result in "fulfillment," and how incredibly destructive that's been to every human society that's adopted this ethic, I'm not so sure this decision should be left to them.

 

[Ser Prize]

You're the one who said it's unfair that women don't get paid a cash wage for housework, not me. These are pretty basic questions that follow on your own claim that you should be able to figure out for yourself.

So, not only are the people who think housewives should be paid wages unwilling to say their husbands should charge rent, they're actually completely incapable of thinking through what this sort of transactional relationship would actually mean. Maybe, and hear me out, if you reduce the marriage relationship to a financial transaction, it's actually the woman who comes out ahead on a material basis.



Given how easily women are deceived into thinking that sterilizing themselves and becoming cubicle drones will result in "fulfillment," and how incredibly destructive that's been to every human society that's adopted this ethic, I'm not so sure this decision should be left to them.

That's the sad reality of it. Women en masse seem to have been rather easily turned away from any semblance of maternal life and instead are being pitted against men, trying to 'out-man' them instead of working together.

The ancient greeks had this right when they said women were too prone to excessive emotion and hysterics to be trusted with making consistently rational decisions.

 

[gang weeder]

That's the sad reality of it. Women en masse seem to have been rather easily turned away from any semblance of maternal life and instead are being pitted against men, trying to 'out-man' them instead of working together.

The ancient greeks had this right when they said women were too prone to excessive emotion and hysterics to be trusted with making consistently rational decisions.

I think it's just that women are simply more prone to following social trends. Whatever society expects in order for them to be labeled a Good Person, they'll do it. That is definitely an issue.

 

[Ser Prize]

I think it's just that women are simply more prone to following social trends. Whatever society expects in order for them to be labeled a Good Person, they'll do it. That is definitely an issue.

Oh most certainly, but that ties into being more prone to emotional thinking.

 

[Wormy]

You're the one who said it's unfair that women don't get paid a cash wage for housework, not me. These are pretty basic questions that follow on your own claim that you should be able to figure out for yourself.

Yea, it seems we have some work around this house, but it's gonna be another one of those "You've been arguing on Kiwifarms again, haven't you?" sort of discissions.

Incidentally, how is your wife with this arrangement, her not being allowed to work?

So, not only are the people who think housewives should be paid wages unwilling to say their husbands should charge rent, they're actually completely incapable of thinking through what this sort of transactional relationship would actually mean. Maybe, and hear me out, if you reduce the marriage relationship to a financial transaction, it's actually the woman who comes out ahead on a material basis.

No, considering if the man leaves. he's fine and he has his source of money, the woman doesn't.

Given how easily women are deceived into thinking that sterilizing themselves and becoming cubicle drones will result in "fulfillment," and how incredibly destructive that's been to every human society that's adopted this ethic, I'm not so sure this decision should be left to them.

Becoming a financial leech=fulfillment? Why aren't more NEETS happy then?

Also, if you ever bitch about Great Reset shit taking away your rights, I'm going to remind you how you want to force every single woman out of their employment because they're a woman.

That's the sad reality of it. Women en masse seem to have been rather easily turned away from any semblance of maternal life and instead are being pitted against men, trying to 'out-man' them instead of working together.

No, it's not working together, it's one side making all the resources while another is dependent on them.

he ancient greeks had this right when they said women were too prone to excessive emotion and hysterics to be trusted with making consistently rational decisions.

So how did your own wife react to being told she is not allowed to have a job?

 

[Osmosis Jones]

So how did your own wife react to being told she is not allowed to have a job?

Lol you're probably thinking this is a gotcha but most women are ecstatic at the idea of not having to be a wagie. And lol @ thinking raising a child and keeping a home clean warrants a wage. I don't doubt that it's challenging, probably moreso than most jobs, but if you're doing those things expecting gibmuhs instead of recognizing the value of creating a healthy home without interference from a career or third party then maybe you wouldn't be so histrionic about it.

If I got to stay at home all day and keep my home the exact way I wanted it and raise my child the exact way I want him to be, I'll let my wife work full time and support us. Don't act retarded and say that wageslavery beats mothering.

 

[Wormy]

Lol you're probably thinking this is a gotcha but most women are ecstatic at the idea of not having to be a wagie.

You can have them then. I don't want a leech.

And lol @ thinking raising a child and keeping a home clean warrants a wage.

Therefore it's useless in a capitalist society.

but if you're doing those things expecting gibmuhs instead of recognizing the value of creating a healthy home without interference from a career or third party then maybe you wouldn't be so histrionic about it.

Money don't get everything it's true
But what it don't get baby, I CAN'T USE.

If I got to stay at home all day and keep my home the exact way I wanted it and raise my child the exact way I want him to be, I'll let my wife work full time and support us. Don't act retarded and say that wageslavery beats mothering.

Money talks Bullshit walks. Besides, as most of the thread agrees, your monkey ass is the one earning the money and resources, she's supposed to be the NEET living rent free and eating up your reasources.

Man, I envy the upbringing you had where money was no object. You sound like those fucking single moms that I thought conservatives hated....

 

[Osmosis Jones]

You can have them then. I don't want a leech.

Lol like you have the options

Therefore it's useless in a capitalist society.

So is a lot of shit.

Money don't get everything it's true
But what it don't get baby, I CAN'T USE.

>gibmuh

Money talks Bullshit walks. Besides, as most of the thread agrees, your monkey ass is the one earning the money and resources, she's supposed to be the NEET living rent free and eating up your reasources.

No shit, autismo. And I'm happy to do it for a woman that takes care of my family and my shit.

Man, I envy the upbringing you had where money was no object. You sound like those fucking single moms that I thought conservatives hated....

You know what they say about assumptions

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

A bunch of cope

She's not gonna read this bro

 

[Wormy]

No shit, autismo. And I'm happy to do it for a woman that takes care of my family and my shit.

Your life. I got no place in my life for NEET scum myself. You pull your weight or you get out.

She's not gonna read this bro

Who isn't? My wife? No shit, she's got more sense and isn't as self punishing as I am.

 

[Osmosis Jones]

Who isn't? My wife? No shit, she's got more sense and isn't as self punishing as I am.

I know way too much about you for you to not be a lolcow. Is there a page on you? I've learned that you think your wife is homely and that you have major daddy issues. You also despise traditional values for being traditional. There's a pretty fucking low moral bar to be in your shoes. Freak. Who shit talks their wife online?

 

[Wormy]

I know way too much about you for you to not be a lolcow. Is there a page on you? I've learned that you think your wife is homely and that you have major daddy issues. You also despise traditional values for being traditional. There's a pretty fucking low moral bar to be in your shoes. Freak. Who shit talks their wife online?

WOW....a thread with people saying women are too stupid...oh I'm sorry, "emotional"...to hold jobs giving me smoke for shit talking my wife.

And no, there's no page on me. I'm considered just another faceless liberal elite.

No daddy issues though. Me and the old man get along fine, we just know not to bring up religion or politics when we're together. I don't like his religion, but that's seriously the only fault I find in him at all. Good father, good husband. Not my fault you intentionally misread my stance about him just because I mentioned he's a pastor.

 

[The Ugly One]

That's the sad reality of it. Women en masse seem to have been rather easily turned away from any semblance of maternal life and instead are being pitted against men, trying to 'out-man' them instead of working together.

The ancient greeks had this right when they said women were too prone to excessive emotion and hysterics to be trusted with making consistently rational decisions.

Women are miserable and killing themselves in our culture, and we insist that somehow they're "happier."

 

[Biggusstickus]

If I have to play devil's advocate, if you believe Stephen King's memoir, he mentioned how his dad left him, his mother and his brother when he was young. And that his mom was getting paid 10 cents per hour to do menial jobs because as a woman back in the day she wasn't allowed to get jobs that men could get. Combine with the fact she was a single mother, it was a stigma for her since she must have done something wrong for her husband to leave her. Which meant she couldn't get much help from people around her because she was, a harlot. Also she and her kids had to travel to a lot of places where the work is at.

I don't support the feminism it is today, working with the 3 unholy trinity of bitch, fat and ugly. If feminists weren't acting like smug socialists that preach compassion about insert poor poor current trend here, but laugh about wanting you dead while having the gall to act nice in your face, I'd give more leeway to feminism rather than the subversive gold-digging cock hoarding ideology it is today.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Women are miserable and killing themselves in our culture, and we insist that somehow they're "happier."

Applies to literally everybody ever, blacks and whites, boys and girls, gays and straights, everyone is miserable and offing themselves more often than a few decades ago.

Everybody has their own boogeyman for the reason why it's happening. Socialists blame it on Capitalism, Liberals blame it on Conservatives and quote-on-quote "Fascists" and "Nazis", fundies (like most people here literally) blame it on change and societal openness to what they deem as vices (fag rights, women being allowed to get a job, etc), white/black Nationalists/Supremacists blame it on mass immigration, immigrants and niggers or whiteys respectively. And that's even if they have no idea what might be the exact source cause of it all, so they target the tree instead of the roots.

Just sayin', we're all fucked and nobody knows why we're all fucked. If you think you do, you're probably wrong. I'm sure it's because of the internet, depression has skyrocketed ever since we invented computers and then the net. Coincidentally, third wave feminism started at around the same time as did the internet too.

 

[Shidoen]

An apple, a fucking apple.

 

[Zyklon Ben's Poison Pen]

Wellllp, according to a lot of people in here, women shouldn't even be given the ability to aspire to such things.

Seriously dude, stop being a meme.
Frankly, over investment in women has been an abject failure. They underperform and are high maintenance in all things and now we are just seeing things awarded to them because they can't cut it. Can't compete? Whine and bleat.
I'm all for leaving the door open to those who can and will do but this massive over correction is a major drain on an already over leveraged society.