Was Feminism a Mistake? - We going there

[LurkNoMore]

Oh boo hoo
I wish I had a dollar for every chud who claims the school system is systemically sexist (against men) and then turns around and takes the poor performance of blacks at school as proof niggers are biologically retarded
Seems to me men's obsession with hating on other races of men is just so they can avoid realising that the problems with men of any given race are just exaggerations or variations on the problems of men as a sex

Always nice when a woman comes in and makes feminism out to be a mistake by saying something so unbelievable stupid.

The majority of college students are female. This is true for every race; white, black, hispanic, asian, etc... Therefore the majority of poor performing black students is black female students.

And even if the poor preformace of black students could be placed at the feet of male students. It still would not answer the question as to poor male performance over all. Given male success historically in higher education.

And furthermore, the problem with blacks in higher education isn't some lack of intelligence, but the favoritism shown to them by liberal controlled institutions. Which places them where they fail and struggle over better candidates because of their race. Something said liberals do the same as with female students over male students.

As they say, "Know what they call the woman who graduated at the bottom of her class at med school? Doctor."

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

The thing is, women never needed feminism in the first place.

In reality, women were far better represented in professional occupations in the first three decades of the 20th century than in the middle of that century. Women received a larger share of the postgraduate degrees necessary for such careers in the earlier era than in the 1950s and 1960s.

The proportion of women among the high achievers listed in "Who's Who in America" in 1902 was more than double the proportion listed in 1958. The decline of women in high-level careers occurred when women's age of marriage and child-bearing declined during the mid-century "baby boom" years.

The later rise of women began when the age of marriage and child-bearing rose again. In 1972 women again received as high a proportion of doctoral degrees as they had back in 1932.

 

[The Ugly One]

Attempt at a serious answer:

The premise of feminism is that women and men aren't different enough to justify having sex-differentiated social norms, much less laws. This whole idea breaks apart as it tries to navigate the shoals of why humans even have biological sexes in the first place. The basic problem is that women are attracted to status and wealth, and men aren't. So, what women want is for men, in general, to make less money than they do, but for the specific men they partner with to make more money than they do. Feminists have unsuccessfully tried to claim that the reason women are attracted to provider/protector characteristics, while men are to physical sexuality and fertility is due to socialization, not nature, and that they, the feminists, can teach men to be attracted to women who have big paychecks and long resumes, rather than big boobs and long legs. Didn't work, can't work, won't ever work.

So feminism's failed women on its own terms. It wasn't supposed to render women unable to find men. All the feminist propaganda in the 70s and 80s depicted hard-nosed career women getting the best men and having it all, when the reality is that life really screws over career women. It's not just that they don't have time for babies. It's that there just aren't enough men making $200K per year for the women making $95K per year to match up with, and there can't ever be. Male/female income equality means most people die alone, including most women. Women get married later and later, they have fewer and fewer kids, they're more and more depressed.

Feminism is completely unable to think through natural tradeoffs and consequences, so it's riddled with contradictions, fails to deal with reality, and ultimately has made everyone unhappy, including women, by breaking up men and women, isolating us from each other, and really giving nobody what they actually need to be healthy and stable.

 

[Biggusstickus]

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Seriously dude, stop being a meme.
Frankly, over investment in women has been an abject failure. They underperform and are high maintenance in all things and now we are just seeing things awarded to them because they can't cut it. Can't compete? Whine and bleat.
I'm all for leaving the door open to those who can and will do but this massive over correction is a major drain on an already over leveraged society.

Also women shouldn't complain their repressed and underrepresented when their more likely to get into ivy league colleges for not having a dick between their legs. And when society will leap to their defense against a guy whose not high status enough in their view.

 

[Wormy]

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Tells me to stop being a meme when he says "Anyone who thinks women shouldn't stay in the kitchen is just trying to simp for random women online!" Now this is the AT I remember.
Dude, why the fuck would I try to earn sex when I can get it whenever I want. Married, dumbass.

Women are miserable and killing themselves in our culture, and we insist that somehow they're "happier."

And your solution is to take away their options and lock them into one caste?

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Always nice when a woman comes in and makes feminism out to be a mistake by saying something so unbelievable stupid.

The majority of college students are female. This is true for every race; white, black, hispanic, asian, etc... Therefore the majority of poor performing black students is black female students.

And even if the poor preformace of black students could be placed at the feet of male students. It still would not answer the question as to poor male performance over all. Given male success historically in higher education.

And furthermore, the problem with blacks in higher education isn't some lack of intelligence, but the favoritism shown to them by liberal controlled institutions. Which places them where they fail and struggle over better candidates because of their race. Something said liberals do the same as with female students over male students.

As they say, "Know what they call the woman who graduated at the bottom of her class at med school? Doctor."

The moment he or she called you a chud (The go-to slur for wokies and trannies) then I knew it was a troll and yet you bit the bait, congrats retard.

 

[LurkNoMore]

The moment he or she called you a chud (The go-to slur for wokies and trannies) then I knew it was a troll and yet you bit the bait, congrats retard.

And is the not a bait thread?

 

[gang weeder]

I know way too much about you for you to not be a lolcow. Is there a page on you? I've learned that you think your wife is homely and that you have major daddy issues. You also despise traditional values for being traditional. There's a pretty fucking low moral bar to be in your shoes. Freak. Who shit talks their wife online?

He's claiming to be married? Kek.

 

[Osmosis Jones]

Dude, why the fuck would I try to earn sex when I can get it whenever I want. Married, dumbass.

So wait, why does marriage mean you're guaranteed sex but it doesn't guarantee or warrant anything else in this thread? Is your only standard for women whether or not they'll get on your dick? Did you only get married for sex and a second income?

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

Also, feminism doesn't even bother explaining how the "patriarchy" came to be long before in the beginnings of time.

 

[ZazietheBeast]

It definitely ruined the family unit and social cohesion that's for sure. And the great divide between male and female is a result of this and ultimately why society is taking a dump. Whatever society replaces a feminized society is definitely going to take notes of the failure of the west.

On the plus side though, it did allow women to divorce abusive men. Unfortunately, it allowed abusive women to divorce men.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

The idea that women shouldn't be inferior or slaves to men is not a bad idea - but the ideas of "gender is a social construct" and "empowered = masculine" are bad ideas.

 

[Wormy]

So wait, why does marriage mean you're guaranteed sex

Well mine does because she wants it as much as I do. Easy.

but it doesn't guarantee or warrant anything else in this thread? Is your only standard for women whether or not they'll get on your dick? Did you only get married for sex and a second income?

Sex, second income those were the main reasons, but it also helps to have common interests (especially gaming), and also her damage and hang ups synch well with mine. We work pretty good as a team.

Why did YOU get married?

Also, feminism doesn't even bother explaining how the "patriarchy" came to be long before in the beginnings of time.

Oh that's easy; One had the bigger spear or fists and the other one didn't want to die at the hands of the one with the bigger spear or fists.

Whatever society replaces a feminized society

Ain't it interesting that "Feminized"=Failure, and "Masculine"=Successful. Almost like one is inferior to the other despite the crying about how "They're just different!"

"empowered = masculine"

Empowered, and all things positive as a whole=Masculine.

 

[Osmosis Jones]

Well mine does because she wants it as much as I do. Easy.

Sex, second income those were the main reasons, but it also helps to have common interests (especially gaming), and also her damage and hang ups synch well with mine. We work pretty good as a team.

Why did YOU get married?

Maybe because I care about my SO as a person and I want to see them grow and have a good life. Then there's you who wants to get laid and get paid and the rest is gravy as long as the puzzle pieces fit, lmao

Eta: AND you married a woman you consider ugly to boot

 

[gang weeder]

Well mine does because she wants it as much as I do. Easy

My woman is an EMPOWERED SLUT! I'm proud of my PERSONAL WHORE!

 

[Wormy]

Maybe because I care about my SO as a person and I want to see them grow and have a good life.

Careful with that kind of talk; that gets you called a white knight and a cuckold.

Then there's you who wants to get laid and get paid and the rest is gravy as long as the puzzle pieces fit, lmao\

Yea. The pieces fit. Something wrong with that? Again, we work pretty well as a team. The most important factor of course is that we can put up with each other's bullshit without murdering each other. Just celebrated our 18th anniversary, so we're doing something right, wouldn't you say?

Eta: AND you married a woman you consider ugly to boot

You think I'm an Adonis? I'm no prize by anyone's definition. I look like Vincent DeNofrio (sp) would if he had a meth habit and a primary diet of chicken wings and beer.

 

[Osmosis Jones]

Careful with that kind of talk; that gets you called a white knight and a cuckold.

Yea. The pieces fit. Something wrong with that? Again, we work pretty well as a team. The most important factor of course is that we can put up with each other's bullshit without murdering each other. Just celebrated our 18th anniversary, so we're doing something right, wouldn't you say?

You think I'm an Adonis? I'm no prize by anyone's definition. I look like Vincent DeNofrio (sp) would if he had a meth habit and a primary diet of chicken wings and beer.

Lol what the fuck bro. At least I find my wife attractive and I'm not sitting here whining about how ugly I am. You're 4/5ths of a whole incel.

 

[XxTardWranglerxX]

It's ALWAYS "feminism" when they want it, "gender roles" when they don't. They want the power that comes from being masculine but able to fall back on "I'm just a woman" when things aren't going their way.

 

[Wormy]

Lol what the fuck bro. At least I find my wife attractive and I'm not sitting here whining about how ugly I am. You're 4/5ths of a whole incel.

Incels of any fraction don't have wives for nearly 2 decades with no end in sight. Incels don't live their lives intimately with the sole human being who gets them and is willing to spend their life with them. She is homely, BUT SO WHAT? We both are. That shit don't mean a thing to me, and it doesn't to her. I said how ugly I am precisely because of that.

You are really hung up on that, but again, I'm not the one saying that women should be forbidden from any role except unpaid maid/nanny. Many people here are.

It's ALWAYS "feminism" when they want it, "gender roles" when they don't. They want the power that comes from being masculine but able to fall back on "I'm just a woman" when things aren't going their way.

That is messed up. All people should abide by the former and be done with it.

 

[Osmosis Jones]

She is homely, BUT SO WHAT?

Sex, second income those were the main reasons

So she has good income or what?