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We have a powerful weapon to fight inflation: price controls. It’s time we use it​

Isabella Weber

We used price controls after inflation sky-rocketed after the second world war. There’s a strong case for doing so again now

Wed 29 Dec 2021 11.20 GMT

Inflation is near a 40-year high. Central banks around the world just promised to intervene. However, a critical factor that is driving up prices remains largely overlooked: an explosion in profits. In 2021, US non-financial profit margins have reached levels not seen since the aftermath of the second world war. This is no coincidence. The end of the war required a sudden restructuring of production which created bottlenecks similar to those caused by the pandemic. Then and now large corporations with market power have used supply problems as an opportunity to increase prices and scoop windfall profits. The Federal Reserve has taken a hawkish turn this month. But cutting monetary stimulus will not fix supply chains. What we need instead is a serious conversation about strategic price controls – just like after the war.

Today economists are divided into two camps on the inflation question: team Transitory argues we ought not to worry about inflation since it will soon go away. Team Stagflation urges for fiscal restraint and a raise in interest rates. But there is a third option: the government could target the specific prices that drive inflation instead of moving to austerity which risks a recession.


To use a metaphor: if your house is on fire, you would not want to wait until the fire eventually dies out. Neither do you wish to destroy the house by flooding it. A skillful firefighter extinguishes the fire where it is burning to prevent contagion and save the house. History teaches us that such a targeted approach is also possible for price increases.

The White House Council of Economic Advisers suggests that the best historical analogy for today’s inflation is the aftermath of the second world war. Then and now there was pent up demand thanks to high household savings. During the war this was a result of rising incomes and rationing; during Covid-19 that of stimulus checks and shutdowns. At both times supply chains were disrupted. This is as far as the White House advisers’ interpretation of the parallel between the two episodes goes. What they do not tell us is that the inflation after the war was not without an alternative.

During the second world war the Roosevelt administration imposed strict price controls and instituted the Office of Price Administration. In comparison with the first world war, price rises were low, while the increase in output was almost beyond imagination. After the war, the question was what to do with the price controls. Should they be released in one big bang as southern Democrats, Republicans and big business were urging? Or did price controls have a role to play in the transition to a postwar economy?

Some of the most distinguished American economists of the 20th century called for a continuation of price controls in the New York Times. This included the likes of Paul Samuelson, Irving Fisher, Frank Knight, Simon Kuznets, Paul Sweezy and Wesley Mitchell, as well as 11 former presidents of the American Economic Association. The reasons they presented for price controls also apply to our present situation.

They argued that as long as bottlenecks made it impossible for supply to meet demand, price controls for important goods should be continued to prevent prices from shooting up. The tsar of wartime price controls, John Kenneth Galbraith, joined these calls. He explained “the role of price controls” would be “strategic”. “No more than the economist ever supposed will it stop inflation,” he added. “But it both establishes the base and gains the time for the measures that do.”

President Truman was aware of the risks of ending price controls. On 30 October 1945, he warned that after the first world war, the US had “simply pulled off the few controls that had been established, and let nature take its course”. And he urged, “The result should stand as a lesson to all of us. A dizzy upward spiral of wages and the cost of living ended in the crash of 1920 – a crash that spread bankruptcy and foreclosure and unemployment throughout the Nation.” Nevertheless, price controls were pulled in 1946, again triggering inflation and a boom-bust cycle.

Today, there is once more a choice between tolerating the ongoing explosion of profits that drives up prices or tailored controls on carefully selected prices. Price controls would buy time to deal with bottlenecks that will continue as long as the pandemic prevails. Strategic price controls could also contribute to the monetary stability needed to mobilize public investments towards economic resilience, climate change mitigation and carbon-neutrality. The cost of waiting for inflation to go away is high. Senator Manchin’s withdrawal from the Build Back Better Act demonstrates the threat of a shrinking policy space at a time when large scale government action is in order. Austerity would be even worse: it risks manufacturing stagflation. We need a systematic consideration of strategic price controls as a tool in the broader policy response to the enormous macroeconomic challenges instead of pretending there is no alternative beyond wait-and-see or austerity.

  • Isabella Weber is an assistant professor of economics at the University of Massachusetts Amherst and the author of How China Escaped Shock Therapy
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How about unfucking the supply chain, stop passing all this ELEVENTY TRILLION PAIDFORARINO BILLS, and stop printing fucking money?

No? Just force price controls on us like we're fucking commies and this is Cold War USSR?

Sure, why not, just one more step to the liberal and SJW utopia they keep blathering about.
Nixon did it, and did it right. Of course the liberals were assblasted when he did it; all they do is steal ideas from conservatives and pretend they came up with it first.
 
For the record, this is what Shock Therapy means in the author's book


I guess she's trying to say she's studied china's economy so she's an expert, but it doesn't really make sense without knowing the context. I wish it was actually electroshock. Also I don't want to use China as a guide.
It means she thinks pre-reform China is something to emulate. Holy shit lol.
 
I would prefer the price of bologna to go back to $4.35 like it was months ago, as compared to the $7.00 it was on Saturday. But I'd honestly prefer stopping the money machine, burning millions that are in circulation to lower the money supply, stop all these irresponsible spending bills, and telling the blood-sucking leeches we give aid to to fuck off.
That feel when you just bought boneless chicken breasts for $1/lb.
 
I would prefer the price of bologna to go back to $4.35 like it was months ago, as compared to the $7.00 it was on Saturday. But I'd honestly prefer stopping the money machine, burning millions that are in circulation to lower the money supply, stop all these irresponsible spending bills, and telling the blood-sucking leeches we give aid to to fuck off.
Where you live must suck. I just got back from the store. Rib roasts were $10/lb. They had decent looking steaks for $6/lb.

Also, foreign aid is a pimple on the ass of our federal spending. It was the trillions in covid "relief" that did it. No question. Unlike TARP or other government fix-it programs, that shit stands no chance of ever paying for itself. I remember getting fucking lambasted around here for raging against it too. Daddy Trump said people needed it to make rent so the mindless hoard ate that shit up.

Nearest this country has gotten to bread and circuses, I swear. Fucking morons.
 
Not price control, but profit control. It costs Coca-Cola around £1 to make a 24 pack crate of coke. It's sold for £7 in shops. Do they need £6 of profit when £3 would do?

I don't know what it's like in yankyland but in the UK (In my experience) the rule of thumb has been 'every time a product is touched, add 35% mark up'. Would it kill the world if we, even temporarily, set the maximum profit/mark up, at say 15%?
 
You'd think a (assistant) professor of economics would know that price controls result in goods shortages? Nazi 'price commissars' were famously very good at managing the economy.
The Cult of The Experts™️ is a nefarious thing. If the price is right, there will always be someone with a Ph.D willing to repeat whatever smart-sounding balderdash you want them to. They may even believe it.
 
You know who loves price controls the most? The companies being "regulated". In practice, price controls just serve as an excuse to avoid competition and let the market settle on the maximum price. Typically, government would set the maximums at a point where something like 90% of all regulated companies were making more profit under regulation than before. In the '70s, some segments of corporate America were actually begging government to bring back price controls.

Stephen Breyer's "Regulation and its Reform" (written before he joined the Supreme Court) is a good book dealing with the subject, and related topics like how the airlines worked pre-deregulation.
 
Not price control, but profit control. It costs Coca-Cola around £1 to make a 24 pack crate of coke. It's sold for £7 in shops. Do they need £6 of profit when £3 would do?

I don't know what it's like in yankyland but in the UK (In my experience) the rule of thumb has been 'every time a product is touched, add 35% mark up'. Would it kill the world if we, even temporarily, set the maximum profit/mark up, at say 15%?
Do you truly believe that the 24 pack made it from Coca-Cola to the store with free teleportation? Certainly nobody paid taxes, transport costs, inventory management, or any other overhead.
 
Not price control, but profit control. It costs Coca-Cola around £1 to make a 24 pack crate of coke. It's sold for £7 in shops. Do they need £6 of profit when £3 would do?

I don't know what it's like in yankyland but in the UK (In my experience) the rule of thumb has been 'every time a product is touched, add 35% mark up'. Would it kill the world if we, even temporarily, set the maximum profit/mark up, at say 15%?
Well you have Coke Corporate, their licensed bottler, the distributor, then the store itself. All those people need to get paid.

So it isn't just Coke here.
You know who loves price controls the most? The companies being "regulated". In practice, price controls just serve as an excuse to avoid competition and let the market settle on the maximum price.
Yup. Before Reagan deregulated trucking the Teamsters basically set surface transportation rates and the industry operated as a politically-connected oligopoly.
 
Do you truly believe that the 24 pack made it from Coca-Cola to the store with free teleportation? Certainly nobody paid taxes, transport costs, inventory management, or any other overhead.
All overheads included. Not sure about transport.

To be fair to big companies like coke, they do work on the economies of scale. But it was an example of how much Mark up there is on products

Let's take a more popular example of the IPhone. The BOM is, what, <$100 and they sell for $1000+?

Or that stupid monitor stand they were flogging for a grand.
 
All overheads included. Not sure about transport.

To be fair to big companies like coke, they do work on the economies of scale. But it was an example of how much Mark up there is on products

Let's take a more popular example of the IPhone. The BOM is, what, <$100 and they sell for $1000+?

Or that stupid monitor stand they were flogging for a grand.
So what Coca Cola is paying also includes the distributor, transport and final store overhead? Are you sure? Look, I don’t know beverage manufacturing which was your original point but I do know what a company pays to make something is not what that thing costs by the time it hits retail. Not even close.
 
  • Isabella Weber is an assistant professor of economics at the University of Massachusetts Amherst Emil Jones University and the author of How China Escaped Shock Therapy
 
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Well you have Coke Corporate, their licensed bottler, the distributor, then the store itself. All those people need to get paid.

So it isn't just Coke here.

Yes they do, I'm just suggesting and I could be totally wrong here, I'm limited in experience of finances in terms of economics, I'm just suggesting that maybe the companies that make billions in profit a year take a hit and only make 1 billion or 500 million profit, across the industry, rather than the masses getting shagged

At the end of my financial year, I have 0 profit and some savings. Most people don't even have that.

Does bezos (the financial hitler) need another few billion? Or how about Hitlers son, Bill Gates. Does he need another few billion that he's going to use to sterilise Africans?
 
So what Coca Cola is paying also includes the distributor, transport and final store overhead? Are you sure? Look, I don’t know beverage manufacturing which was your original point but I do know what a company pays to make something is not what that thing costs by the time it hits retail. Not even close.
I just said, the transport costs are not included. Over heads, wages, packaging etc etc all are included in that price. Yes, partly thanks to the economy of scale.

What it costs the company to make it, is the cost it costs to make it. Slapping 35% mark everything it is touched is possibly (my original point) a little too high and maybe, to help (I'm not an economist so I'm asking, would it help?) Limit the mark up on goods to a flat rate of X%
 
No one should be allowed into the field of economics without at least a few years of hands-on construction work on their resume.

It's real easy to talk money when your dollar is worth more in your mind than anyone else's.
That's the insane part about literal Russian asset Saule Omarova that Biden nominated to over see the banking industry. She's never held a job outside of academia.

The media really closed over some of her more insane views like abolishing FDIC insurance so the now government run bank could seize your money to address inflation.

If that sounds familiar it's what both Venezuela and Zimbabwe did as their inflation shot to the moon.
 
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