Weapons sperging general

Caniks are real nice, I've yet to meet a CZ75 platform clone I don't fucks with.

@The Dude little dude gets the "glove" trigger guard and you gotta use regular? Proof of a loving father!

So I need "bad" influences, sold left over car parts and most went to AUG fund but I'm thinking, I don't own a TT-33 that's a bad thing right? I should fix it right? I own 2 others in 7.62x25. Or should I wait for my local shop get's the FEG hi powers?

AUG first, then FEG or other Hi Power, then Tokarev.

Also, the trigger guard on my lower is big enough for a gloved finger, it's just the angle of the photos make it look more like a standard trigger guard. And the AR I'm going to build will be more of a "fun gun" rather than a SHTF gun. My AUG and LMT MWS308 are my go-to rifles.
 
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i got my Canik today and they gave me a free box of 9MM to test it out. it shoots fantastic, much nicer than the 1911. it sucks the .45 was a lemon but i really like the TP9.
 
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I'd really like to get one of these next year after Mrs. Dude and I get our house. It's an Ohio Ordnance Works HCAR, basically an M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle modernized for the 21st century. They made it more ergonomic, lighter weight (12lbs vs. 21lbs for an original BAR), added ten extra rounds to the magazine, but kept it .30-06. This is basically my dream rifle. The BAR is my all time favorite firearm, and a modern BAR makes me very happy.

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So I've recently found out about a company called James River Armory that has bought the rights to use the name "Rock-Ola" in their firearms brand. Rock-Ola is best known for making jukeboxes and other items of that nature, but during WWII and the Korean War they built M1 Carbines for the US military. JRA is offering Rock-Ola branded M1 Carbines, but they are also offering semiautomatic M14 rifles. Rock-Ola never made M14s, but the ATF passed a ruling that states any rifle branded Springfield, Winchester, Remington, or TRW (the four primary manufacturers of M14s for the military) offering a weapon with the model M14 for the civilian market is automatically a machine gun, regardless of if it's fully automatic or not. That's why Springfield Armory, even though they are not the historical Springfield Armory that supplied M14s, has to brand their semiautomatic M14 style rifle M1A. Well, since Rock-Ola was not one of the Big Four making M14s, and company branded as Rock-Ola may offer a rifle model M14.

Here's the thing about these rifles; they are built as close to USGI spec as you can get, far more so than anyone else offering M14 style rifles. They are even using genuine USGI parts made by TRW for the military. And they are one of only two semi-auto M14 manufacturers that are building their rifles with USGI spec and dimensionally correct FORGED receivers and bolts. Springfield, Fulton, and Smith Enterprises are using out of spec, dimensionally incorrect cast receivers and bolts, which are weaker. The Rock-Ola rifles also have forged op rods, which can be a trouble area for the Springfield rifles since theirs are cast.

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They also offer a model with a shorter 19" barrel. Back in the 60's a couple of the manufacturers experimented with shorter barrel lengths. I think it was TRW who found that a 19" barrel allowed for a short rifle, but it still allowed a bayonet to be mounted and the gas plug to be removed without also having to remove the flash suppressor/front sight assembly. When the US Navy SEALs had their M14s modernized they shortened the barrels to 18", but they had a different front sight and flash suppressor mounted since they also used a sound suppressor. JRA/Rock-Ola also offer upgraded match grade barrels for a little extra.

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Why am I going on about all this? Well, firstly the M14 is one of my all time favorite rifles, just after the M1918A2 BAR. Secondly; remember when I mentioned that Rock-Ola is known primarily as a jukebox manufacturer? Well Rock-Ola 460 jukebox from 1975, one of the older kind of jukes that plays 45rpm records, just came up for sale locally for $200. It needs a little work, but nothing major or expensive. I have wanted a real jukebox since I was a little kid. More importantly, one of my favorite hangouts growing up had a Rock-Ola 460 and I remember all the good times I had with my friends and that juke. Well, tomorrow I am buying that Rock-Ola jukebox! One of my bucket list items will be mine!

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So now I'm going to have to buy a Rock-Ola M14 to go with my Rock-Ola 460 jukebox. I had a Springfield M1A (which is what Springfield called their M14 style rifle for the legal reasons I outlined eariler) because I always wanted an M14. I had it put in the same chassis that the SEALs use for their Mk14 rifles. The problem was that it was unreliable. I had failures to extract the spent cartridges, even after I sent it back to Springfield several times. I got so fed up and frustrated with it that I sold it. I always lamented not being able to have an M14 style rifle. Well now I can have one that is as close to the real deal military spec rifle as I can without spending $25,000- $35,000 of a civilian transferable full-auto M14. I will put it in the Sage EBR chassis like the SEALs use and I'll get the 19" barrel and pay for the upgraded match grade barrel. It will look something like this.

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So I'm going to have a motherfucking Rock-Ola jukebox and a motherfucking Rock-Ola M14/Mk14 Mod0 clone and that makes me motherfucking STOKED!
 
So I'm going to be buying a few firearm this year. I'll be picking up a Remington 870 Marine Magnum 12ga shotgun this month. It's basically just a standard 870 pump action with an 18" barrel and 7 shot magazine tube, but it has a nickel plated finish instead of black, and I'll be decking it out with an adaptor that let's you mount a pistol grip and collapsible AR stock, and it also allows you to attach a sight rail from the mounting block all the way down the barrel to just behind the front sight. The particular mounting block I'll be getting also allows you to easily mount a 8 shell side saddle on the left side of the receiver. Instead of a typical AR style buffer tube to mount the collapsible stock I'll be getting a hydraulic recoil buffer made especially for shotguns with collapsible stocks.

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After the shotgun I'll be buying a .45 ACP handgun. I was really considering an STI 2011 Tactical with a threaded barrel, but I plan on buying sound suppressors for the guns I shoot most because I've lost about 35% of my hearing and have permanent tinnitus, and 1911s require a lot of work to run reliably with sound suppressors. That, and magazines for the 2011 are VERY expensive. I also wanted something really rugged, while still being accurate. So what I've decided to buy is a Heckler and Koch Mark 23 SOCOM. It ticks off all my requirements for a pistol, and the magazines are about half the price of the STI magazines, though they have less capacity. And if I'm being brutally honest, I've wanted a Mark 23 ever since I played Metal Gear Solid when I was in high school.

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After the Mark 23 I'll be buying the Rock-Ola M14F for my Mk14 build. After the M14F I'll start buying optics for my rifles, then I'll have to hold off on buying more guns until after Mrs. Dude and I buy a house. But once we have our house and after we get a couple of dogs for Mrs. Dude and I, and after we get a cat for Little Dude, I'll be taking out a loan for something VERY special. Something I figured I'd never come close to buying. I've recently found out about a company down in Texas who are making a semi-automatic version of my favorite World War Two weapon; the German FG-42. I will have to take a loan out for it because the damn thing is $5000 and there is simply no way I could save that much money. But it'll be worth it. I figure that I'll have enough modern "tacticool" firearms, so it will be time to start in with my collection of WWII and post-WWII weapons like the FG-42, Garand, Hakim, SAFN/FN-49...stuff like that.

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And we need to get @Club Sandwich in on this thread. Homie knows his shit and I'd love for him to join in on out sperging.
 
FG-42 is one of my all time favorite guns it was just so light years ahead both in it's features but it's use etc. I've shot a MK23 a few times, I really would love one, because muh solid snake and it's fun as fuck as well as it's history but it's DEAGLE BRAND DEAGLE HUGE. I think for use the new FN made all tacticool surpasses it in everything aside cool factor, the sights are made for can's can slap a red dot on stock etc.

I know some people gripe about Remington after Cerberus buy out but I've never seen too much drama, in person mostly net bitching. I have a 870 with an m4 stock as well just a 4 round side saddle, a 26" and 18" barrel, it should go with out saying, always get something that eats 3" since you can run 2.75 as well but you never know when 3" goes on sale lol.

So since this isn't just small arms only. You guys want to see the real dooms day weapon? A weapon so scary they were scared if anyone heard of it they would be nuked? Well here we go. This is Mr. Bones Wild ride, the weapon : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Pluto It's what night mares are made of. But god damn... we need a handful for ISIS.
 
FG-42 is one of my all time favorite guns it was just so light years ahead both in it's features but it's use etc. I've shot a MK23 a few times, I really would love one, because muh solid snake and it's fun as fuck as well as it's history but it's DEAGLE BRAND DEAGLE HUGE. I think for use the new FN made all tacticool surpasses it in everything aside cool factor, the sights are made for can's can slap a red dot on stock etc.

I know some people gripe about Remington after Cerberus buy out but I've never seen too much drama, in person mostly net bitching. I have a 870 with an m4 stock as well just a 4 round side saddle, a 26" and 18" barrel, it should go with out saying, always get something that eats 3" since you can run 2.75 as well but you never know when 3" goes on sale lol.

So since this isn't just small arms only. You guys want to see the real dooms day weapon? A weapon so scary they were scared if anyone heard of it they would be nuked? Well here we go. This is Mr. Bones Wild ride, the weapon : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Pluto It's what night mares are made of. But god damn... we need a handful for ISIS.

The FNX 45 Tactical is nowhere near as rugged as the Mk23. They also have the occasional problem of a pin in the trigger linkage walking loose. As far as size, the Mk23 isn't all that much larger than a 1911 and about the same weight fully loaded, but holds four more rounds in the magazine.

I'm not planning on carrying the Mk23 as a CCW piece. If and when I do carry it, it'll be in a thigh holster while I'm out riding my ATV and shooting out in the desert. Possibly as a SHTF sidearm to back up my rifle. I'm mostly buying it because I really fucking want one, it fits my hand really well, and I shoot really well with it. The only semi-auto pistol I've shot better with was a full bore competition 1911.
 
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As a britfag who won't ever be buying a handgun can I assume that KelTec are basically the "Tesco Value" version of real guns? Also before you yanks take the piss I own a gun that I am led to believe is illegal in the US, so there!
 
As a britfag who won't ever be buying a handgun can I assume that KelTec are basically the "Tesco Value" version of real guns? Also before you yanks take the piss I own a gun that I am led to believe is illegal in the US, so there!
Kel-Tec is owned/operated in Florida by George Kellgren, who did a lot of innovative work with firearms design in Sweden under Husqvarna and Interdynamics. he, along with Carlos Garcia kept up their use of polymers and inexpensive blowback operated firearms and founded Intratec (which made derivatives of the KG-99 like the Tec-9 pistol and various open-bolt submachineguns). he also made the Grendel, a small polymer framed handgun in the late 80's which was both ugly and cheap... but it worked and was well made otherwise. the cheap Zytel polymer and castings made inexpensive yet innovative firearms his hallmark.

his later work involved a series of small handguns (like the PF-9) which are a cut above the bottom barrel but were reliable and decent, if on the cheap side of things. his long arms like the Sub-2000 folding carbine, the KSG high capacity bullpup shotgun, the RFB light weight bullpup .308 carbine, and the SU16 folding rifle kept his passion alive with well designed, cheaply produced, and reliable (if a little finicky) firearms.

Kel-tec doesn't compete with Glock or S&W at the $400 mark, he's a cut above Hi-Point and Jimenez at the $150, and cheap revolvers from Rossi at $250. if you want a cheap gun that works, you can do worse than Kel-tec.

there are very few firearms that are legal in the UK that aren't legal in the US that don't fall under various import restrictions that require a "sporting purpose" or meeting the points system for handguns. you might be surprised, but it's quite onerous to import firearms into the US in their original condition unless they meet various very specific requirements. manufacturing and selling a gun wholly within the US allows nearly anything.

example: the Glock 25 and Glock 28 cannot be imported because they do not meet the handgun points system (minimum 75 points) the BATFE established for imported firearms (where the serial numbered part is manufactured, usually the frame). these pistols are in .380 and if they were made in the US rather than Austria, they would have zero legal difficulties, even in states like California or Hawaii which have very strict handgun laws.
 
I think my good friend @LazarusOwenhart was talking about it being suppressed / moderated, we have no restrictions on owning them in the UK they are really common on our Deer rifles for example but there is a argument if that's a over site in the law or to prevent noise pollution in the countryside as the countryside in the UK is more densely populated than in the US.
 
I think my good friend @LazarusOwenhart was talking about it being suppressed / moderated, we have no restrictions on owning them in the UK they are really common on our Deer rifles for example but there is a argument if that's a over site in the law or to prevent noise pollution in the countryside as the countryside in the UK is more densely populated than in the US.
they are completely legal in 39 states with a tax stamp and are sold in certain endorsed stores.

suppressors/silencers have been a controlled item in the US since 1934 as fear mongers lumped them in with gangster violence. in some states they are completely forbidden outside of theater, law enforcement/military, or certain kinds of pest control.

one major difference that i've noticed between suppressors from, say, New Zealand or Norway, and the ones in the US is that the US ones tend to just be more expensive for the same thing because the cost of doing business in the US is significantly higher than some other countries, and further the limited market and regulated product drives the price even higher. however ultimately most suppressors hover around $500 (Gemtech, YHM, Griffin, AAC) with boutique ones being higher. because a KAC or SureFire gets into the thousands doesn't mean that they are "borderline illegal" or something. they are uncommon and regulated in the US is all that's particularly different.
 
I think my good friend @LazarusOwenhart was talking about it being suppressed / moderated, we have no restrictions on owning them in the UK they are really common on our Deer rifles for example but there is a argument if that's a over site in the law or to prevent noise pollution in the countryside as the countryside in the UK is more densely populated than in the US.
Long story short I have a late model Franci Spas12 with an unrestricted mag on a c1 license. Googling has revealed that the import ban in the US was lifted in 2004 however not many have been imported since as they are a relatively rare gun outside law enforcement.
 
Long story short I have a late model Franci Spas12 with an unrestricted mag on a c1 license. Googling has revealed that the import ban in the US was lifted in 2004 however not many have been imported since as they are a relatively rare gun outside law enforcement.

You lucky fuck, I have been after a SPAS for years an one hasn't come up for sale when I've been wanting to buy.
 
I keep it almost exclusively to make my local clay pigeon crowd shit themselves with tweed stuffed fury.

Back when I was in collage one of the Tutors had one he used for fowling, pissed off some people no end but as far as I'm concerned it for fowling an as long as the shoot doesn't forbid semi auto's an pumps go for it.
 
Back when I was in collage one of the Tutors had one he used for fowling, pissed off some people no end but as far as I'm concerned it for fowling an as long as the shoot doesn't forbid semi auto's an pumps go for it.
When I do clay shoot, which is getting rare these days what with work etc, I go to a place that attracts the kind of big serious men who spend £9000 on a hand engraved, custom Browning with all sorts of wonderful fittings and chokes and fuckin' cup-holders and all that shit. They tend to frown upon the 30 something who rocks up in a battered Focus and proceeds to cook off an afternoons worth of rounds in five minutes then fuck off again. I know I'm not well liked but I keep going because I'm hoping to develop infinite clean energy technology from the power generated by the general huffing and bristling of mustaches. The worst bit is, my slightly chavvy uncouthness is 100% an act. I have tweed and corduroys, a wooden stick and a selection of labradors but I choose not to wear them when a red North Face jacket and an eminem t-shirt just makes the day that little bit more interesting.
 
When I do clay shoot, which is getting rare these days what with work etc, I go to a place that attracts the kind of big serious men who spend £9000 on a hand engraved, custom Browning with all sorts of wonderful fittings and chokes and fuckin' cup-holders and all that shit. They tend to frown upon the 30 something who rocks up in a battered Focus and proceeds to cook off an afternoons worth of rounds in five minutes then fuck off again. I know I'm not well liked but I keep going because I'm hoping to develop infinite clean energy technology from the power generated by the general huffing and bristling of mustaches. The worst bit is, my slightly chavvy uncouthness is 100% an act. I have tweed and corduroys, a wooden stick and a selection of labradors but I choose not to wear them when a red North Face jacket and an eminem t-shirt just makes the day that little bit more interesting.

There is a time an a place for that kind of pretention, it's a driven shoot day.

I have a few "posh" weapons for that kind of day but the rest of my cabinet is workman like, with a few exceptions just because.
 
There is a time an a place for that kind of pretention, it's a driven shoot day.

I have a few "posh" weapons for that kind of day but the rest of my cabinet is workman like, with a few exceptions just because.
Driven shoots are something I avoid, I've met too many people who take far too much pleasure in the actual death of the birds. It's one thing to enjoy the sport. I for instance love rabbiting and ratting, ground shooting is my particular hobby. I've seen some pretty horrific things when I've been beating, people who do NOT know how to ring a birds neck trying to ring a birds neck whilst the poor thing shrieks and flaps it's non peppered wing. That level of cruelty and incompetence is unforgivable and it just provides the anti-hunting lobbies with tons of misinformation to throw into the "ban every fuckin' thing" argument.
 
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