Web Browser General - Fuck Chromium. All my homies hate Chromium.

[Least Concern]

It also sucks to not have a built-in screenshotting tool. That's something that Chromium has been lacking for a fucking long time.

What purpose does a browser-based screenshotting tool serve that isn't served by the tools that ship with every major OS or windowing system?

(Sorry if that comes off as snarky but I've just never used any browser-based screenshotters since I never saw the point.)

 

[Hellwalker]

What purpose does a browser-based screenshotting tool serve that isn't served by the tools that ship with every major OS or windowing system?

(Sorry if that comes off as snarky but I've just never used any browser-based screenshotters since I never saw the point.)

Not much. It's just convenient to have.

 

[;_;7]

With the exception of Manifest V3, I actually love Chrome. I daily drive Firefox so that I can get the worst average web experience and therefore find compatibility problems in my sites. If it wasn't for that, I would probably be using Ungoogled Chromium or Brave.

I just want the US government to break up Google so that Chrome can be taken over by a committee. That's the direction it's sliding anyway what with the whole Linux Foundation Chromium Browsers thing. Once that happens, I'm happy and I can stop caring about the corpse of Firefox. I don't care about Safari except for bare minimum compatibility.

 

[genericwhitemale]

I don't know what the problem is, but Librewolf does not like running YouTube for some reason. I play a video and it'll intermittently either skip passed a second or buffer indefinitely. I switched to Librewolf in the first place because it had problems running adblock, but now it's probably the only way I can watch a long video on my desktop.

 

[Catter]

I'm kinda surprised ladybird can make it through the captcha

It's kinda rough around the edges but that's fair because the alpha release is in like 2026 lol

 

[;_;7]

I'm kinda surprised ladybird can make it through the captcha
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It's kinda rough around the edges but that's fair because the alpha release is in like 2026 lol

I've been very impressed with Ladybird so far. It has modern JavaScript support and its layout engine is very good. CSS animations still need a lot of work, but general layout and styling are surprisingly accurate.

 

[teriyakiburns]

What purpose does a browser-based screenshotting tool serve that isn't served by the tools that ship with every major OS or windowing system?

It knows the layout, so it can easily select a box with a single click. You can also use it to grab content outside the viewable area in a single shot.

 

[skunt]

Librewolf users are going to get burned, it's just a matter of time.

There really is no "good" alternative is there

There is, it's mullvad browser. It's even listed in the vote in OP.

Pros:
It's not chromium
It's backed by both the TOR project and mullvad, not some pozzed open source group.
It's based on firefox so you get to keep ublock origin and manifest v2.

Cons:

 

[30+GameOvers]

Today is that special day

Lobotomized the browser so that it doesn't keep asking for damn updates, now I need to figure out a way to get past this whole certificate issue. If not, I have LibreWolf ready to go, either way Mozilla can go suck a dick.
Tried checking /g/ to see if they are of any help, unsurprisingly enough their thread on the issue is full of pajeets telling you to please redeem newest version of Firefox and Windows or your computer will self destruct sir. Not sure why anyone browses that shitty board anymore. Does anyone know how to spoof official root certificates the browser needs or at least disable the killswitch check that is going to happen tomorrow?

Edit: Apparently there is no way to actually "fix" Firefox as the build-in switch will kill many browser features and all extensions support tomorrow no matter what you do. No point in bothering any longer with FireFox so I am going to take LibreWolf for a spin and replace that too if need be.
For shits and giggles, I installed the 120 version(you need at least 128 to avoid features breaking tomorrow, the same update that introduced nasty backdoors which harvest your data and transfer it to Mozilla servers, probably to sell or use it to train AI. Funny how that works). If LibreWolf breaks too I will install a newer version.
You know what doesn't have a killswitch? My ancient, nearly 10 year old version of Chrome that I lobotomized, it works just as intended without modern Google bloat and without taking away my extensions if they're deleted off the market place. No updates, no killswitches build in, it merely works as intended once you bonk it with a virtual hammer a few times, never need to update again. Only reason I need more browsers in the first place is for specialized tasks, usually resulting from work. Just wanted to point that out since Mozilla cucks like to say "At least we're not using Chrome!"
Well, I am. I'm not able to use an older version of Firefox tomorrow onwards without it's features being intentionally broken, meanwhile my ancient Chrome build only doesn't work when websites specifically break for older OS(like recently, Cloudflare captchas). Everything else works fine, that includes extensions I haven't updated in just as long.
Score one for Google, -1 for Mozilla
>B-BUT GOOGLE JUST BANNED uBlockOrigins off it's-
Don't care, works fine on my end. Sounds like a user problem if you're intentionally downgrading your browser with every new version.

 

[TheHarbinger]

I installed the 120 version(you need at least 128 to avoid features breaking tomorrow, the same update that introduced nasty backdoors which harvest your data and transfer it to Mozilla servers, probably to sell or use it to train AI. Funny how that works). If LibreWolf breaks too I will install a newer version.

You need Firefox 115 ESR or 128 ESR now or sites will be purposefully broken by the browser to encourage you to update. More planned obsolescence.

 

[30+GameOvers]

You need Firefox 115 ESR or 128 ESR now or sites will be purposefully broken by the browser to encourage you to update. More planned obsolescence.

Funny you mention that, Firefox still works for me great despite the killswitch deadline being already up. The websites, the features, the extensions all work fine, altho I did notice that Firefox no longer has an icon in the bottom toolbar(it has one on desktop) and it desperately tries to update itself. Of course, the update fails cause I lobotomized the browser, but I noticed the Mozilla Maintenance Service folder I deleted popped up again. I am guessing it will re-install itself every time I try to open the browser now, so Mozilla can kiss my ass. I'm going to use Librewolf for my purposes regardless.

Edit: The browser did kind of break, some sites load very slowly and others don't have scripting enabled(you can notice this if you load them thru TOR as well). I think this is intentional since the same sites worked fine on LibreWolf, which doesn't seem to have a kill switch and doesn't want to constantly update btw.
Never seen a piece of software literally kill itself in order to force me to update, but that doesn't bother me. Code that doesn't do exactly what I want it to is useless to me and only deserves to get deleted and replaced. I am not it's slave, it's the other way around. This just strengthens my resolve to never update unless absolutely needed.

 

[genericwhitemale]

Librewolf users are going to get burned, it's just a matter of time.

There is, it's mullvad browser. It's even listed in the vote in OP.

Pros:
It's not chromium
It's backed by both the TOR project and mullvad, not some pozzed open source group.
It's based on firefox so you get to keep ublock origin and manifest v2.

Cons:

I will install this tonight, then. Thanks for the recommendation.

 

[Combustion Engine]

Librewolf users are going to get burned, it's just a matter of time.

Not as bad as Waterfox users were when it was purchased (and later broke off) from an advertisement company. It's unnerving all those forks and patches even need to exist the way they do to make up for Mozilla's incompetence and complete, intentional disdain for the only user-base that kept using their only worthwhile product and installing it onto others' PCs.

There is, it's mullvad browser [...]
Cons:

I would say it's not a "good" general purpose browser for the average person and may be difficult for the privacy-aware person to use too. It's a bit like having one foot in Tor Browser without using its network, but keeping all the anti-fingerprinting features (nothing stored between sessions, letterboxing, spoofed time zones, canvas protection..) to make you not stand out from other mullvad browser users. But great project and company, and what Moz could've been, instead they limit themselves to reselling their VPN with a different name.

 

[skunt]

I would say it's not a "good" general purpose browser for the average person and may be difficult for the privacy-aware person to use too. It's a bit like having one foot in Tor Browser without using its network, but keeping all the anti-fingerprinting features (nothing stored between sessions, letterboxing, spoofed time zones, canvas protection..)

All good points, the compromise I made was re-enabling history/cookies between sessions. All the others aren't so bad and really - they're for your own benefit. You're right though, it can be a bit of a flashbang.

 

[Hellwalker]

For some reason, Firefox has been slow and stuttery for me. I don't use it as a daily driver but I recently re-installed it to see what Arkenfoxing could do and my mouse kept stuttering moving it anywhere (Especially in the search bar area) and typing in the search bar was also slow. Even after using both Arkenfox and Betterfox to disable some performance heavy settings, it was still the same. This was all done under Arch.

 

[30+GameOvers]

You know how I said I installed an old version of LibreWolf for shits and giggles? Yeah, well, the extensions broke for it at the same time as they did for FireFox. That includes built-in uBlock Origins mind you.
I am not going to use Firefox or it's forks newer than version 120 and I will not use them if my extensions will get disabled. Are there any Firefox based browsers where you can confirm I can use an older version without the extensions breaking? If not, I will just bite the bullet and use ungoogled Chromium or something. Mozilla niggers tongue my asshole, I am so done with this shit. How is it that I had zero problems with my ancient Chrome build I have not updated in a decade and yet all these modern browsers are bloated pieces of shit that break harder with every update?

 

[The Spoils of War]

How is it that I had zero problems with my ancient Chrome build I have not updated in a decade and yet all these modern browsers are bloated pieces of shit that break harder with every update?

I have six extensions and all of them work fine after each update. Maybe it's because you're autistic and insist on using extensions meant for older builds?

 

[30+GameOvers]

I have six extensions and all of them work fine after each update. Maybe it's because you're autistic and insist on using extensions meant for older builds?

Nope, all the extensions worked fine for me for years on my end on FireFox, the killswitch has been activated and now ALL extensions are being disabled if you're not running FireFox version 128 at least(aka the backdoor update) for everyone. I am not the only one impacted here, in fact I found out about it because a post on /v/ asked what was going on with their browser and I checked mine out of curiosity. Same deal as them

UBlock comes with every version of LibreWolf by default, so it's telling that even that is getting disabled.
Funny how LibreWolf also came with that killswitch installed in the first place. I thought their whole schtick was that it was an unpozzed FireFox browser that doesn't spy on you? Well, I'm doubting even that statement at this point. Glad I decided to test it out by not blindly getting the latest version available.

 

[nekoelf]

I use Brave with a debloat script to get rid of all that slop that comes with it. I believe chromium browsers will always be better for security given that there have been more high level CVEs against Firefox. Any browsing session where I view sites with JavaScript I prefer Chromium-based browsers for. I also use Vanadium on my GrapheneOS pixel and it works excellent so far.

 

[Hellwalker]

For the time being, I recently switched over to the Zen browser that @Patrick Bait-man talked about in the OP. I'm pretty satisfied with it. I'm not usually a fan of side-bar tab management but it's not distracting at all and looks good since the black color goes nice. Overall, it looks very sleek and modern. I'm also using the Betterfox user.js with it.