Weekly Stream Weekly Livestream #10

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This has probably been discussed to death elsewhere, but here 'goes anyway.

Jace doesn't seem to be able to associate the words he says with what they actually mean. And this goes beyond words that often have some situational ambiguity to them (e.g. "I was virtually raped!!!"); remember when he kept telling his mom and others that the homos had "assassinated" him numerous times? I mean, assassinated has a pretty clear-cut definition, even to a moron like Jace, and yet he desperately shouts that he was assassinated (despite not being dead). I am sure this same kind of thinking oozes through his brain when he desperately shouts that he's a "former retired PTSD private corporal commander wounded m'reen what-the-fuck-ever." He just vomits words that he's heard before assuming they will mean the same to others as they do in his head, like a parrot. (RRRAAAAAK! Fuel the fight!)

To me it seems less like he's deliberately lying and more that he thinks whatever pops into his head is the truth by virtue of it popping into his head. He plays CoD and thinks about Soap being a former whatever the fuck he was? He thinks about how cool that would be, then thinks "hey, I am ALSO a spec-ops shadow warrior!" It's also why I don't take stock in his numerous death/assault threats (you'll be staring down the barrel of my judge, jury and executioner bitch! Last thing you ever do!). He's just heard that shit in movies before, thought it was cool, and is blindly imitating it without thinking of the vast consequences of telling somebody that he's going to shoot them in the face.
 
WingNut72 said:
This has probably been discussed to death elsewhere, but here 'goes anyway.

Jace doesn't seem to be able to associate the words he says with what they actually mean. And this goes beyond words that often have some situational ambiguity to them (e.g. "I was virtually raped!!!"); remember when he kept telling his mom and others that the homos had "assassinated" him numerous times? I mean, assassinated has a pretty clear-cut definition, even to a moron like Jace, and yet he desperately shouts that he was assassinated (despite not being dead). I am sure this same kind of thinking oozes through his brain when he desperately shouts that he's a "former retired PTSD private corporal commander wounded m'reen what-the-fuck-ever." He just vomits words that he's heard before assuming they will mean the same to others as they do in his head, like a parrot. (RRRAAAAAK! Fuel the fight!)
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DeagleDad said it best:
"(...) he's been known to literally pull words out of seemingly nowhere that have nothing to do with anything. Example: "gamer of the battlefield", "USMC WOLF", "US Government and Laws"... the list goes on and on. Usually autistic people just parrot phrases without any understanding of the proper context, but Jace seemingly pulls these things from a pocket dimension of nonsensical faux-English inside his own head."
 
That was the most exhausting 5 hours of my life. After an emotional rollercoaster of dicks, juggalos, booze, tears, and Maxis Software I finally collapsed in my bed shortly after Jace shot his dad in the gut. Completely spent, I woke up 8 hours later with a knowing grin and a spring in my step. Made my year.
 
That stream was... Interesting. Most of Fact Zone was fairly predictable or at least usual for Jace (his Twitter argument involved him trying to out SJW SJW's, COD is real life, there is a gay conspiracy after him). But the Sims... Yeah, just yeah.

I think his glee at watching his SimMum die was due to being temporarily annoyed at her IRL rather than any actual hatred though it seems he also holds a grudge for her preventing him from mingling with other kids his age (he mentions near the start of the Sim section I think that she stopped him making/seeing friends or something). Also of note, his attributing SimGail's death to an act of God which is odd since I always figured his Christianity to be a product of living with his Mother rather than any honest belief in a divine being.

He also hates Richard, as in I suspect if Gail hadn't died Jace'd probably have let her live and ran off to live with Cena but Richard was a dead man walking. I don't think we'll get any more information on him if Jace continues his 'childhood' like he did with the original Sims streams as he's dead but the way Jace responded to him was a lot more negative than it was to anyone else- even Pastor Faggot only got 'nailed in the ass' by Jace.

As a side note, Rob is adopted! That one surprised me, though like Richard I doubt we'll see him on the Sims since by the end of the Livestream Jace was about to be adopted himself.

Jace seems to look to John Cena as a Father figure- which has already been proposed before- and apparently talks like some caricature of a gangster rapper. In usual SimCena fashion he's best friends with Jace (so Jace can hang out with him 24/7) yet abandons him at a crucial juncture (this time in not killing Richard rather than in stealing Jaces cyber-girlfriend). Still, if Jace at some point manages to reach the young adult stage of his Simlife I suspect we may see some drama as Cena has the Paparazzi job which means if Stryker manages to get famous (or Jace cheats him up to 5 star fame) we can expect Cena to turn up at least once at an inopportune time to take embarrassing photos- especially if Jace recreates the spiral into despair which marked his first Sim livestreams.

Also of note I'm pretty sure shortly after SimGail spontaneously combusted Jace remarked 'Marines don't cry' in response to Stryker mourning his Mother. Whilst I have no actual way to tell if the USMC actually are resilient to tears I get the feeling that it was the 'Stryker can't die' of this stream. Though in this Stream I guess we have plenty of evidence to indicate this isn't the case.
 
Jace really does need to be admitted for a mental health evaluation and a long stay at a hospital. I think The Sims episode really showed how messed up Jace really is and why he is such a mess. That being said we now know why Gail keeps mace on her person, and I also feel bad for Rob between his mother and brother Rob must be at his wits end.
 
When he says 'assassinated', it's a metaphor and one of the only ways to (poorly) frame what he is feeling into an expression.

BTW intentional flashing is considered sexual assault and to someone who isn't in on the joke, it can be quite damaging.
 
Quipy said:
Jace seems to look to John Cena as a Father figure- which has already been proposed before- and apparently talks like some caricature of a gangster rapper. In usual SimCena fashion he's best friends with Jace (so Jace can hang out with him 24/7) yet abandons him at a crucial juncture (this time in not killing Richard rather than in stealing Jaces cyber-girlfriend). Still, if Jace at some point manages to reach the young adult stage of his Simlife I suspect we may see some drama as Cena has the Paparazzi job which means if Stryker manages to get famous (or Jace cheats him up to 5 star fame) we can expect Cena to turn up at least once at an inopportune time to take embarrassing photos- especially if Jace recreates the spiral into despair which marked his first Sim livestreams.
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I love that virtual Cena trolls Jace.

Also 5 hours? God damn.
 
It appears to still be up for replaying purposes. I'm listening to it right now at work.
Fact Zone was pretty good. Definitely a few memorable lines. I'm just starting into a very emotionally charged Sims 3 session. I really want to know what happened with his dad...
 
24isthehighestnumber said:
Fact Zone was pretty good. Definitely a few memorable lines. I'm just starting into a very emotionally charged Sims 3 session. I really want to know what happened with his dad...
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Daddeh ran off. No idea why, but I'm guessing it has something to do with Pastor Faggot. See how Jace's dad wasn't at the church? Maybe Gail's fundieness caused Daddy Connors to run like fuck.
 
"Yo, little nigga! Sit down here. Big Cena's gonna show you all the cheat codes!"
Oh my god, I'm dying. The rest of it has been really sad, though.
 
To engage in rampant speculation:

I see two possibilities for why Jace is this way

1. I think Jace feels like church ruined his childhood through Gail's ultra-fundy shit and blames his dad for not being strong enough to stop it. He seems to think that Church and home school, and to a lesser extent Gail, ruined his ability to make friends and be normal. I think he blames Gail some for this, which is why he was so stoked when she caught on fire; but I think he sees Pastor Fagot as some master manipulator who had her in his clutches. That's why he latches onto wanting Cena to be his strong tough dad who cares, along with all the stoner marine of the battlefield shit. It also explains why he seems to hate Pastor Fagot way more than Gail.

I think Jace feels like his dad either didn't care enough to stop Gail for fucking up his life or (probably more likely due to the preoccupation with strength and combat Jace has) tried and wasn't "strong" enough to do it and gave up and got a divorce. He now has the impression that if he becomes a marine he can't be forced to do things because he's too tough, and that his life would have been way cooler if he had a strong dad like John Cena to protect him. However, Gail is still in his life holding him back, and he's so behind on becoming too tough to be dominated he doesn't even know where to start, which is why he just sits around and drinks, bitches and smokes weed. It would also help to explain why he's so worried about Islamic mind control and shit like that, he thinks it's an even more potent version of what Pastor Fagot did to his mom.

2. Jace's dad either beat him or molested him as a kid and Pastor Fagot and Gail didn't stop his dad and/or blamed Jace. If this is true I lean towards molestation. This would explain the preoccupation with killing his dad because Jace wants to hurt him back. He may even live in fear that his dad's gonna come back and do something to him again, and view killing him as the only way to make sure he's safe forever.

If he was molested, then I think Gail and Pastor Fagot knew and Pastor Fagot told Gail she's out of the church if she gets divorced, they just need to pray Richard's demons away and she just isn't giving him enough sex/ Jace is an evil homosexual seductress (this actually happened to a friend of mine with her step dad and she saw it happen to other people at the fundy churches her family went to, before people think that's too crazy to happen). This theory would explain his anger at all these people, as well as his preoccupation with becoming too strong to be a victim and wanting John Cena to be his perfect dad. It would also help to make sense of why Jace is so sensitive to dix pix and Gail's homo panic, especially if she victim blamed Jace as a homo seduction demon.

All that shit being said, I think the first theory is more likely and all the anti-homo panic is just an outshoot of Gail's religion. With either theory, I think Rob saved him to some extent. That's probably why Jace idolizes him so much and actually listens to him. The fucked up thing though is that this is all probably good as opposed to him having schizophrenia or some other brain problem, because he can probably be reached with therapy and lead a relatively normal live if he gets help.
 
Tavern Explorer said:
That and the Cenaphone were a couple of the only funny parts of the Sims portion of the stream, to me.
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Some of Jace's earlier freakout was hilarious simply because of how surreal it was. Like, seeing a grown man tell a Sims person to "talk to Cena" while waving a doll around. But it slide from disturbingly hilarious to just disturbingly depressing as it continued. The last few minutes was probably the most upsetting thing I've seen in a while.
 
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