Weight loss support thread

[crunchy bits are the best]

He seemingly jumps from shilling one diet to another like a schizophrenic, a few years ago it was fasting, then it was keto, then it was him straight up eating butter, now he’s on a sugar diet.

Here’s a video of him sitting in his car eating Jam directly from the jar while raving about the benefits of sugar

I don't trust these weirdos in the first place.

Sugar is sugar. Unless you can burn it really quickly, you shouldn't be eating too much sweets if you want to lose weight.

 

[Overly Serious]

I’m not sure if this is the right thread, I just saw it come up under the new posts tab and it seemed like the place to ask. Does anyone know what’s going on with Cole the snake juice guy? I became aware of him after seeing an anon on 4chan talking about fasting and looking into the /fit/ thread about it back around 2018. He popped into my head last week for some reason, so I checked out his channel and I don’t even know what’s going on with him. He seemingly jumps from shilling one diet to another like a schizophrenic, a few years ago it was fasting, then it was keto, then it was him straight up eating butter, now he’s on a sugar diet.

Here’s a video of him sitting in his car eating Jam directly from the jar while raving about the benefits of sugar

Is he just elaborately trolling fat people?

This is advice so bad it's malicious. Do not touch.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Switched all my carbs to whole wheat

So, you switched carbs for carbs?

 

[Jex]

This is advice so bad it's malicious. Do not touch.

Without a doubt, Cole has become the personification of the fad diet influencer. Drifting from extreme to extreme like a bee between flowers preying on people that haven’t been able to lose weight that are looking for an out. He went from fasting, the simplest form of dietary restriction, to telling people that simple sugar cures cancer and is the optimal diet to lose weight on. He did it because the audience is there.

 

[Overly Serious]

So, you switched carbs for carbs?

I believe they mean that they switched the source of their carbs to whole wheat.

Which is a good thing. Complex carbohydrates take longer to break down and therefore have less of a sugar-high/insulin roller-coaster effect. So less likely to overeat.

 

[FedPostalService]

It only took me one day of dieting to completely eliminate cravings. When I feel hungry, I actually am
I'm only 4 days in and it feels like caffeine would be harder to kick than excess calories at this point
I've replaced Diet Coke with 0 sugar Vitaminwater (for the most part)
Tomorrow will be the start of the Weekend Walks. 8 miles walked every Saturday and Sunday. I just hope my legs don't feel too destroyed.

Walking is fantastic exercise. I do a lot of walking just to keep my belly down.

Recently got back into running but covid round two has ruined that as my lungs are still recovering and have destroyed my ability to do a 5k.

Keep it up, kiwi bros!

 

[ShootyPee]

I decided against posting semi regular updates and instead will show off the result when it's all done!

 

[Raisincrest]

Good morning, Kiwis. I started Keto last Tuesday with a goal of eating less than 20g of carbs per day.

I have lost 4.6 lbs so far, so I think it's going pretty well.

 

[Silly Corgan]

Without a doubt, Cole has become the personification of the fad diet influencer. Drifting from extreme to extreme like a bee between flowers preying on people that haven’t been able to lose weight that are looking for an out. He went from fasting, the simplest form of dietary restriction, to telling people that simple sugar cures cancer and is the optimal diet to lose weight on. He did it because the audience is there.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the guy is a troll. The only doubt in my mind is how committed he is to the bit. His videos are hilarious and the things he says are so consistently absurd I can't fathom how anyone would take it seriously unless they've got an IQ the same as their BMI.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Good morning, Kiwis. I started Keto last Tuesday with a goal of eating less than 20g of carbs per day.

I have lost 4.6 lbs so far, so I think it's going pretty well.

A lot of that will be water weight but nonetheless, a good start. Keep it up.

I believe they mean that they switched the source of their carbs to whole wheat.

Which is a good thing. Complex carbohydrates take longer to break down and therefore have less of a sugar-high/insulin roller-coaster effect. So less likely to overeat.

That's not the point. - People think they can switch their simple carbs for complex carbs but still eat the same amount of carbs, then wonder why they don't lose weight. If you have insulin resistance issues - which most overweight people do to some degree - carbs of any kind are not your friend.
It's like asking which is heavier: a ton of lead or a ton of feathers?

 

[Overly Serious]

That's not the point. - People think they can switch their simple carbs for complex carbs but still eat the same amount of carbs, then wonder why they don't lose weight. If you have insulin resistance issues - which most overweight people do to some degree - carbs of any kind are not your friend.
It's like asking which is heavier: a ton of lead or a ton of feathers?

Maybe people do think that, but that's not my point. Switching to more complex carbs as the primary source of them is still a good thing because it helps eating fewer of them. Which is easiest to over-consume? Bars of chocolate or bowls of porridge? 100g of oats has 66g of carbs, whole milk 5g of carbs. I feel like I mix around 250ml w/ 100g of oats so lets say 350g porridge = 70g of carbs. That's a big portion and your stomach will feel full and be working on digesting that for a couple or hours or more. 350g of milk chocolate would give you around 200g of carbs (whilst giving you over twice as much protein, too!)

And 350g of porridge is more than most people could eat at one sitting. Whilst a fatty could easily tuck away one of these with room to spare.

It's around the same calories as my monster porridge bowl and they'll have digested it in 40mins and be ready for more.

Yes, a tonne of feathers and a tonne of lead weigh the same. But the volumes are very different and the (straining your analogy) digestion time is very different. OP is doing a good thing for their weight by switching their carbs to complex carbs.

 

[Silly Corgan]

I think you ALL are missing the point. Whole wheat tastes disgusting, so you won't eat as much of it. A win for fatties!

 

[Iron Jaguar]

OP is doing a good thing for their weight by switching their carbs to complex carbs.

It's negligible. - You cannot outrun a poor diet, and any diet that is carb heavy - simple or complex carbs - is a poor diet for a person who needs to lose weight, as evidenced by the very fact that they need to lose weight.

 

[Overly Serious]

It's negligible. - You cannot outrun a poor diet, and any diet that is carb heavy - simple or complex carbs - is a poor diet for a person who needs to lose weight, as evidenced by the very fact that they need to lose weight.

You're ignoring the entire point that complex carbs are slower to digest and more satisfying and less calorie dense, so you eat less of them. You just keep posting "the same amount of carbs doesn't make a difference". If your stomach is full you will feel satiety. Complex carbs fill your stomach for fewer calories than simple carbs. This is not a difficult concept and I don't understand your determination to be so dismissive of OP doing something sensible and trying to switch to different sources. You seem determined to isolate this and think it will be some kind of crutch that is used to justify eating the same amount rather than less. It is HARDER to consume the same amount of calories from complex carbohydrates than simple. Additionally, the slower release is easier to handle leading to lessen massive insulin spikes which lead to insulin resistance (and from there to Type 2 Diabetes). It's easier to handle in the same way a wooden board can handle a succession of 1kg weights dropped on it rather than one single 20kg weight.

You are determined to dismiss all this and repeatedly return to the true but simplistic fact that if you eat the same calories you are eating the same calories. Yes, everybody knows that. That's not the point. Losing weight is a game of multiple factors in combination. If it were simple and we had absolute mental discipline we could just stop eating for a month and then not rebound at the end of it. People don't work like that. It's a game of adjusting your lifestyle in sustainable ways, of changing your diet in positive ways that you can keep up and in general, building a gradual but steady pattern of weight loss via the cumulative effect of all these changes. Consuming food that fills you up more and continues to create a feeling of fullness for the same amount of calories as a pile of white bread or a chocolate bar is a good thing. That is my point. Any reply which again dismisses that point and returns to the true but tiresome statement that "calories = calories" is besides that point.

 

[p0e]

so I've been fat all of my life, the highest I've been at was 262 and I got down to 245 but I'm unfortunately back up to 255, I know what I need to do, I just (obviously) have a food addiction, I was recently prescribed Wellbutrin and it's supposed to help with suppressing your appetite and so far it is, so hopefully it helps me even more, I've only been shown bad dieting habits so I'm trying to make healthy ones. I'm willing to take advice.

 

[latinlover]

so I've been fat all of my life, the highest I've been at was 262 and I got down to 245 but I'm unfortunately back up to 255, I know what I need to do, I just (obviously) have a food addiction, I was recently prescribed Wellbutrin and it's supposed to help with suppressing your appetite and so far it is, so hopefully it helps me even more, I've only been shown bad dieting habits so I'm trying to make healthy ones. I'm willing to take advice.

I do know that I'm running the risk of sounding like a dickhead, but long term weight loss is quite complex, you do not need diet change, you need lifestyle change. There was a specific study I think with a supervised diet, around 80% of the people who have lost significant weight have gained it all back within 12 months.

You need to be busy enough where you don't have the time and mental capacity to nurture your food addiction. You need to develop habits that either 1. help you in your primary goal of losing weight (eg. diet, cardio, sports, weightlifting) 2. help you in your (presumably) secondary goal of maintaining a more desirable body image (eg. cardio, sports, weightlifting), you developing muscle will make you look significantly different even at the exact same bodyweight, 3. disallow you from continuing your previous destructive habits (eg.: going outside, staying busy, devoting more time to work, etc.)

The actual leg work is going to be done by the diet though, which I no doubt you will find endless information about in the thread, although IIFYM (If It Fits Your Macro[nutrients]) really is child's play- just make sure your protein intake is sufficient, make sure you aren't going over (or significantly under) your daily allotted calories, and you're golden in that front.
Download MyFitnessPal or a similar app, it will help you calculate your TDEE and by inputting your desired weight loss rate it will give you a rudimentary diet plan you can follow. You're very likely to be prediabetic at this point, so just be aware that carbs will make you hungry, doing keto is likely a decent idea for you.

I hope your doctor didn't prescribe Wellbutrin just for the weight loss alone, it's a marginal side effect and not a guaranteed one- bupropion just fucks with your dopamine receptors and it simply tends to lead to less food cravings, sometimes.

 

[p0e]

I can't reply to you, I have my fitness pal, but I'll forget about it after a while so I'll have to set reminders to even use it, I do walk a lot but it obviously hurts me a lot to do and I easily give up but this time I'm not going to. I'm trying to get back into reading since that used to distract me enough and it's helping somewhat even though I can't focus for too long. I've been looking into keto, but I'm worried that I'll end up having a bad day and bingeing and having to start from scratch, that seems to be my main problem but as you said, I'll have to find things to distract myself from that. My doctor put me on Wellbutrin for depression but he said it would help with my appetite and so far it is. Thank you for all the advice, I'll definitely take it.

 

[Silly Corgan]

so I've been fat all of my life, the highest I've been at was 262 and I got down to 245 but I'm unfortunately back up to 255, I know what I need to do, I just (obviously) have a food addiction, I was recently prescribed Wellbutrin and it's supposed to help with suppressing your appetite and so far it is, so hopefully it helps me even more, I've only been shown bad dieting habits so I'm trying to make healthy ones. I'm willing to take advice.

I'm an advocate for the ketogenic approach to dieting, which myself and another user in this thread are currently in the middle of. It's yielded excellent results for us, and I've personally lost 50 pounds in three months sitting on my ass nearly all the way through with intermittent fasting.

This diet really helps with satiation and cravings in a short time frame without the burden of what most other diets will expect of you. It's also deceptively complicated and overwhelming when you research it thanks to grifters. I recommend starting with a video I sent in an earlier post featuring Dr. Eric Westman that covers everything you need to know.

 

[latinlover]

Anyone here thinking of doing DNP, don't, you fucking retard

Fixed it for you.

You've posted about DNP (or your friend doing it) a couple times, starting a couple years ago in relation to obese people using it to lose weight.

I'm note sure if you're honest to god getting off on attempting to kill people or causing serious organ damage in the best case scenario, or you just genuinely have no idea, I'm going to be generous and go with the latter, I prefer thinking people don't have a malicious intent.

Just to explain what DNP is: it's pesticide, literally. It is literal poison that works through fucking with the mitochondriac and essentially turning the heat up to 11 in your body. You will have the worst fever of your life, you will sweat stinky, disgusting, yellow liquid that will stain everything. You will get horrible, itchy rashes. Your eyesight will rapidly deteriorate, you might get a cataract. Your internal organs literally get cooked, irreversible damage. Again, these are the mild side effects. If you overdose, which is extremely easy to do, you will die, over 3 to 14 hours, getting cooked literally from inside out within your own body. What happens if you tell someone and they get you to the hospital? Fucking nothing. You'll get an ice bath that won't work in 98% cases, because there is no antidote or anything like that to a DNP overdose. People have died, lots of them, which is precisely why they banned it in literally every single country on earth- it was being marketed as diet pills for a super short period until literally 100s of people started dropping dead from ODing and it was rapidly banned everywhere.

It literally is a stuff of horrors, it has even very quickly fallen out of use in the bodybuilding community in favor of either milder stuff like Clenbuterol which also has horrible side effects but at least won't kill you, or things that suppress appetite like Ozempic, literally nobody would use DNP with half a brain, even the most neurotoxic shit like Tren does not do as much lasting damage as DNP does.

And for what? What do you gain by taking DNP and suffering the side effects above? 30-40% increase to your metabolic rate. Literally just eating a couple hundred less calories a day you get the same effects.

No moralfagging, take whatever the fuck you want to aid your weight loss, but not DNP. It's bad enough if you do it and dose it perfectly (and you can't even do that, seeing as you're ordering pesticide from Aliexpress, do you really trust the label about the concentration, purity, whatever?), but if you have no experience with PEDs and dosing them extremely accurately, which I assume the average person in the thread looking for weight loss advice does not, you will kill yourself, period.

 

[IDF]

I’m not sure if this is the right thread, I just saw it come up under the new posts tab and it seemed like the place to ask. Does anyone know what’s going on with Cole the snake juice guy? I became aware of him after seeing an anon on 4chan talking about fasting and looking into the /fit/ thread about it back around 2018. He popped into my head last week for some reason, so I checked out his channel and I don’t even know what’s going on with him. He seemingly jumps from shilling one diet to another like a schizophrenic, a few years ago it was fasting, then it was keto, then it was him straight up eating butter, now he’s on a sugar diet.

Here’s a video of him sitting in his car eating Jam directly from the jar while raving about the benefits of sugar

Is he just elaborately trolling fat people?

I dunno man... I go out everyday for at least 10km. Including stretching and walking to warm up for the run it's about two hours I'm out: 11am-1pm before work, longer on weekends. Candy is (almost) the last real processed food I eat. I feel like it's holding me back somehow, I've been carb limited sure but it's not an all the time thing. I've gotten more consistent results and more PRs lately focusing on high protein (200g+/day) and not fully indulging my sweet tooth. The guy might believe what he's saying, when I realized I was carb limited the first time it was like boom a switch had been flicked but it's not hard to buy some fresh bread (my only other processed weakness these days) and avoid that. Or maybe he only half believes it and think it's a good angle for engagement.