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Got weighed at the doctor's today - am down to 165lbs!!! Finally broke through the plateau I wrote about in my other post and have lost 5lbs since Christmas. This is the lowest I've weighed in at least two years, and I did better than what I was expecting. I only need to lose another 25 to 30lbs now. We are so fucking back Kiwibros.
 
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I can't edit my post to add (how could I forget) that last year I had an AIC that was just over diabetic and another one immediately after that was just under. I already have some chronic conditions and I really didn't want to add diabetes to the list AND it scared the poop out of me. So that was the push to go onto GLP1 meds. Last week my blood sugar was 85 in a CBC test and I have a general doctor appointment next week to get my annual checkup and have A1C tested again. I anticipate it will be in the clearly not diabetic range.

Do not fear ozempic or zepbound if you are fat and diabetic like I was. For one year I was too afraid to get my A1C checked again and have it engraved on my health record that I was diabetic (two A1C in diabetic range for diagnosis).
 
Beetus (gestational, so thankfully temporary but comes with >75% chance of going on to develop type 2) was what made me really sort my shit out. Constantly jabbing my finger to monitor sugars and being even more paranoid over everything that I ate than I already was due to pregnancy was utter bullshit and I have no desire to deal with that permanently.

I also knew that I needed to keep up with a small child soon, and live as long as possible for her. Really shakes up your perspective.

I practically eliminated carbs, discovered a love of walking and went from morbidly obese to borderline underweight in 2 years. Tbh for a brief window I actually had to pull up and gain which was novel, but more fun than losing it was!

Then I had some major life-shit and I regained back to being overweight (but mercifully not obese or beyond - that shit sucked). Got it under control but have spent the last year dipping into healthy again before regaining. I don't want another 12 months of dancing around only to end up back where I started.

Jan has gone well, not weighed myself but I can tell Ive lost the holiday weight due to how my clothes fit. Heading into Feb feeling like I have my shit together for this first time in a couple of years. Hope ive not jinxed it by saying so!

Good luck kiwis!
 
If it helps to think about it this way, fat is 90% as dense as water and 87% as dense as milk.

So a one gallon milk would be equivalent to 9.7lbs by weight and 7.4lbs by volume. So take the amount of weight you need to lose and divide it by either of those numbers so you can visualize how many milk jugs you need to lose.

...it can be a lot of milk jugs. Like a couple dozen for me but I'm finally in a position where I can focus on it
 
Get a freezer bag and fill it with a litre of water. That is approximately the volume of a kilo of fat. The advantage over milk jugs is that you and wobble it around, hold it next to your body somewhere, etc. and know that's about how much volume you'll lose if you lose a kilo. If you put it somewhere near the food that can be a small motivator to try and lose weight.
 
Wujime said:
It might just be because I am not nearly fat enough to be so desperate as to resort to ozempic, but I still see it as a deal with the devil. I had a friend who, in order to lose weight, took some drug which made his heart race like crazy which in turn boosted his metabolism to hell. Unhealthy for sure, but in the long term it seems better than ozempic to me, since you won't have to take it for your whole life and it won't fuck with your insulin sensitivity.

Anyway, my update is that I broke the 85 kgs barrier, so I am 1/6th of the way through my plan
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There's a fun one, 2,4-Dinitrophenol (DNP). It causes your mitochondria to malfunction and unable to store energy as ATP. Well, can't store energy, energy has to go somewhere, energy gets expressed as heat.

Since your body is running at 100% on a cellular level 24x7 while on it, your BMR goes up by dozens of percent, making you literally burn off the pounds. The problem? That heat has nowhere to go. Your body hits around 111 degrees and you die horrifically.

They're working on a new version of it, called HU6, that makes your body generate small doses of DNP in the liver. It just passed Phase 2 and is promising.

 
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There's a fun one, 2,4-Dinitrophenol (DNP). It causes your mitochondria to malfunction and unable to store energy as ATP. Well, can't store energy, energy has to go somewhere, energy gets expressed as heat.

Since your body is running at 100% on a cellular level 24x7 while on it, your BMR goes up by dozens of percent, making you literally burn off the pounds. The problem? That heat has nowhere to go. Your body hits around 111 degrees and you die horrifically.

They're working on a new version of it, called HU6, that makes your body generate small doses of DNP in the liver. It just passed Phase 2 and is promising.

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Couldn't they just put you in an ice bath until the drug wears off and you lose like 20lbs in a sitting?
 
Betonhaus said:
Couldn't they just put you in an ice bath until the drug wears off and you lose like 20lbs in a sitting?
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No clue. The horror stories I've heard are of people cooking to death in ice baths, since it's your organs generating the heat.

Regardless, it sounds like once they get a prodrug version that they can patent and make the line go up for the shareholders with, this will suddenly no longer be the worst thing ever created by man, so, look forward to that. (For another example of that, look at how once Sweetleaf was synthesized by Coke and Pepsi and thus patentable as a synthetic sweetener they could sell, it suddenly was removed off the "worst food additives ever don't even think about it" list.)
 
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No clue. The horror stories I've heard are of people cooking to death in ice baths, since it's your organs generating the heat.

Regardless, it sounds like once they get a prodrug version that they can patent and make the line go up for the shareholders with, this will suddenly no longer be the worst thing ever created by man, so, look forward to that. (For another example of that, look at how once Sweetleaf was synthesized by Coke and Pepsi and thus patentable as a synthetic sweetener they could sell, it suddenly was removed off the "worst food additives ever don't even think about it" list.)
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I wonder if a variaton of that drug could be used in an emergency to stave off hypothermia, like if you're outside for an extended time in -40 degree weather?
 
Zero carb carnivore is the only way to lose weight healthily without excessive muscle loss. Limiting calories just trains your metabolism to be slower so if you slip up on your diet you'll put the weight back on faster than ever.
Carnivore also causes me to wake up with a boner which I haven't done since I was a teenager(I'm late 40's now), and increased my sex drive and sperm production to or above what it was in my early 20's. Exercise doesn't really matter either if you're carnivore.
Ozempic is cancer aids and should only be used as a desperate last resort for super fatties, 102kg isn't a super fatty.
 
Curse of the Sonichu said:
Zero carb carnivore is the only way to lose weight healthily without excessive muscle loss. Limiting calories just trains your metabolism to be slower so if you slip up on your diet you'll put the weight back on faster than ever.
Carnivore also causes me to wake up with a boner which I haven't done since I was a teenager(I'm late 40's now), and increased my sex drive and sperm production to or above what it was in my early 20's. Exercise doesn't really matter either if you're carnivore.
Ozempic is cancer aids and should only be used as a desperate last resort for super fatties, 102kg isn't a super fatty.
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I call bullshit.

Had cancer, beat that. Can't beat the physical effects chemo wrought on me, which precludes my needing Ozempic. Been trying since I recovered to lose it via diet, but it's not just physical, it's also the mental stuff, the food noise. I barely lost weight before, I am determined to stick with this afterwards.

A faddy diet doesn't stop the noise in your head, nor does it teach you better habits. Being on this 2 year plan with support backing you to help re-wire your brain chemistry does. Support to make permanent changes does. Not being 35kg overweight will help too, I'm already down half of that.
 
No idea how the fuck it happened but I dropped 10 pounds just from cutting booze and soda. Not much more to go to hit my goal, but Jesus just not drinking soda or alcohol is tremendous.
 
Lip Glossary said:
No idea how the fuck it happened but I dropped 10 pounds just from cutting booze and soda. Not much more to go to hit my goal, but Jesus just not drinking soda or alcohol is tremendous.
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I wish I were an alcoholic so I could lose pounds by stopping drinking...
 
Wujime said:
I wish I were an alcoholic so I could lose pounds by stopping drinking...
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Not even an alcoholic I drink occasionally maybe once or twice a months but when I do I drink a ton of beers and that's an insane amount of empty calories.
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Amazing what happens when you don't drink your calories.
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I was fucking BAD with soda too. Too many mountain dews or dr peppers that I would care to admit every day. You add that to sitting in my office all day for work and it's no good.
 
Quack_Quack said:
I call bullshit.

Had cancer, beat that. Can't beat the physical effects chemo wrought on me, which precludes my needing Ozempic. Been trying since I recovered to lose it via diet, but it's not just physical, it's also the mental stuff, the food noise. I barely lost weight before, I am determined to stick with this afterwards.

A faddy diet doesn't stop the noise in your head, nor does it teach you better habits. Being on this 2 year plan with support backing you to help re-wire your brain chemistry does. Support to make permanent changes does. Not being 35kg overweight will help too, I'm already down half of that.
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Food noise is carb craving and protein starvation and it goes away in a few days for me. Carnivore may seem like a fad diet but noone ate carbs before agriculture existed because they didn't exist so what do you think they ate because they definitely didn't grab random plants from the forrest and somehow try to turn it into a meal because the plants had no calories. The carb filled fruit/veggies we eat are mutants that can't survive in nature.

You said you tried to control weight with diet but I bet that diet included carbs, the carbs will raise your insulin preventing you from using fat for energy efficiently and there's no way you were eating enough protein on any carb containing diet because if you eat enough protein on a diet containing carbs you will get super fat super fast.

Look at what this woman is eating for breakfast, this is genuinely how much meat a woman will want to eat if she does carnivore, obeys her appetite(eat when you're hungry until you're full) and doesn't even really do any exercise. She will be eating another similar sized meal for dinner too. If you count the calories (I never do because the calories don't matter if you're meant to eat until you're not hungry) it is extremely high but that's just because your metabolism runs at maximum speed(you will burn 20% more calories just existing) on zero carb carnivore because you're getting enough protein and your body can burn fat easily.


Lip Glossary said:
No idea how the fuck it happened but I dropped 10 pounds just from cutting booze and soda. Not much more to go to hit my goal, but Jesus just not drinking soda or alcohol is tremendous.
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Besides the alcohol that you sweat/breath/pee out 100% of the alcohol and fructose(50% of sugar is fructose) you consume will be turned into saturated fat by your liver and most of that fat will be stored around your liver and organs. This is visceral fat you even see on thin or "skinny fat" people. Cutting carbs will also reduce your insulin levels meaning you can burn fat easier too.
 
Curse of the Sonichu said:
Carnivore may seem like a fad diet but noone ate carbs before agriculture existed because they didn't exist so what do you think they ate because they definitely didn't grab random plants from the forrest and somehow try to turn it into a meal because the plants had no calories.
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Carbs absolutely existed before civilization lmao. You act like ancient man didn't find and consume all the fruit they could because it was sweet. They consumed things that got them intoxicated as well which means that yes, they absolutely grabbed random plants to try, found which ones were food or got you high, and avoided the ones that got you sick or killed you.
 
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Carbs absolutely existed before civilization lmao. You act like ancient man didn't find and consume all the fruit they could because it was sweet. They consumed things that got them intoxicated as well which means that yes, they absolutely grabbed random plants to try, found which ones were food or got you high, and avoided the ones that got you sick or killed you.
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The banana on the right is basically what grew in nature before we mutated them with agriculture and selective breeding, it's sour like a lemon with barely any carbs and tastes like shit and is all seeds and no fruit flesh. Similar story with any other fruit/vegetable you can think of, nobody's eating that crap.
Also fruit is only in season for a few weeks a year and only grows close to the equator whilst you can slaughter an animal any time you feel like and dehydrated meat lasts at least a decade (see what the native American Indians call Pemican).
 
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