Weight loss support thread

Fast was successful and I've resumed my usual routine.
I was down to 237 elbees at the end of the fast and the weight (even at a 1000 cal deficit) has crept up to 245 again, but that's to be expected (mostly thanks to water retention).
 
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Oyo, I was hopin' some of you guys could give a bit of advice, but mostly motivation. I'm going on a trip in almost exactly two months and I wanna look good for pics. I'm not huge, I'm sitting at around 163 lbs, but I got quite the big belly and love handles. I have gone to the gym but lately I've been their wet dream; paying for membership but I haven't gone in probably 5 weeks, mostly because I go with a friend but he has been too busy to go and I haven't had the motivation to go myself. anyway, I'm rambling now, what I wanted to know is do you guys think it's possible to lose the handles in two months time, and any tips/ suggestions to get there.
 
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Oyo, I was hopin' some of you guys could give a bit of advice, but mostly motivation. I'm going on a trip in almost exactly two months and I wanna look good for pics. I'm not huge, I'm sitting at around 163 lbs, but I got quite the big belly and love handles. I have gone to the gym but lately I've been their wet dream; paying for membership but I haven't gone in probably 5 weeks, mostly because I go with a friend but he has been too busy to go and I haven't had the motivation to go myself. anyway, I'm rambling now, what I wanted to know is do you guys think it's possible to lose the handles in two months time, and any tips/ suggestions to get there.

Two months time is kind of quick, but if you start now, you'll definitely see some progress.

My advice to lose the love handles? Nothing profound, but it takes dedication to the routine.

Diet: We know what's good for us and what's bad for us. There are no surprises or secret tips there. Replace sodas (even diet sodas) with water (H2O is your friend), replace cookies and candy with fruits and veggies, stay away from fried foods and unhealthy deserts, and focus on rice, fish, and grilled/baked chicken for dinner. You don't have to starve yourself, but definitely focus on eating the right things.

It is okay to cheat once in a while, but definitely make the unhealthier things a rare treat rather than the norm.

Now for exercises:

Treadmill, Elliptical, Bikes, or any other kind of cardio = Exercises that keep you in constant motion not only help to burn the fat but are good for the heart too. Even going outside and running/jogging once a day will help with this.

And if you want to specifically target the midsection = Crunches work well for me. I typically do a crunch, hold it for about 5 seconds, and then go back down, and do it about as many times as you can handle. Do that at least a few times a week. I also do weighted pull ups, if you're interested in that. They are more for the upper body, but target the midsection as well.

The real challenge though is changing habits. I used to pig out and snack on the unhealthiest crap all the time, and that was very hard to break. Not because I was a food obsessed weirdo...it was just...habit. When I was bored, I'd go snack on something. If I watched a movie or binged Netflix, I'd snack on something and not move. Its all right there and available, so its hard to snap out of that. A few tips that helped me.

1) If you are a heavy snacker, try and find healthier things to snack on instead of the usual junk = I used to scarf Oreos like there was no tomorrow, and I knew I was going to have to break that. What I did was find things I do like and try to replace Oreos with that healthier snack. I always loved Kellog's Cracklin Oat Bran cereal, and the pieces are fairly big, so one of the first things I did was use that as my go to snack instead of Oreos. If you like carrot sticks, make that your go to snack. If there is a specific fruit you like (I always loved Pineapple for example) make that your go to snack.

This was easy for me because I live by myself, but when you go to the store, get into the habit of only buying healthy foods. You can't snack on what isn't there around the house, so you can kind of remove the temptation right away. Now if you have a family, especially with kids, that is much tougher because you have to shop for multiple people and not all of them are going to want to diet like you obviously.

2) Exercise while binging Netflix or watching something on TV = As I said before, getting into shape is about changing habits, which involves creating new ones and breaking bad ones. If you are sitting there binging Netflix and just sitting there, that is a lot of time dedicated to inactivity. When I realized how much time I'd devote to Netflix, Hulu, or whatever, I also realized I could do smaller exercises to keep me busy while the movie or TV show was on. I could still pay attention to the TV, but keep myself active while doing so.

These exercises are fairly simple too. Crunches, Hindu squats, Jumping jacks, Sit ups, push ups, etc. These are things that you don't need to go to the gym for and you can just do around the house, and if you can watch your favorite show while doing it, even better. I even got myself some dumbbells and a spring bar to do quick and easy workouts.

One thing I also started doing was getting quick workouts during commercial breaks. "Okay the game is at a timeout and is at commercial...lets see how many push ups or pull ups I can do before the game comes back on".

3) And this was huge for me. I HATE HATE HATE going to the gym. More specifically, I hate dealing with the people that also frequent the gym. I hate people that comment on what I'm doing or trying to get me to compete with them when all I want to do is work out and be left alone, and I especially hate alpha male dick weasels that try to start shit or showoff how tough they are. There is a lot of social anxiety there and you aren't comfortable with it, it is hard to get into the habit of going.

My advice is to bring headsets and play music. People will generally leave you alone if you've your headsets on. Also, try not to worry about competing and comparing yourself to other people around you. You aren't training for a competition, you're there to better yourself, so better yourself and don't go beyond what you're comfortable with. And if it makes you feel more comfortable to have a friend or workout pal go with you, do it. The extra bit of motivation can definitely help, and if you're both there to support each other, it makes for a much better environment.
 
Oyo, I was hopin' some of you guys could give a bit of advice, but mostly motivation. I'm going on a trip in almost exactly two months and I wanna look good for pics. I'm not huge, I'm sitting at around 163 lbs, but I got quite the big belly and love handles. I have gone to the gym but lately I've been their wet dream; paying for membership but I haven't gone in probably 5 weeks, mostly because I go with a friend but he has been too busy to go and I haven't had the motivation to go myself. anyway, I'm rambling now, what I wanted to know is do you guys think it's possible to lose the handles in two months time, and any tips/ suggestions to get there.
Diet is such a huge part of it. Avoid red meat, and replace with chicken, turkey or seafood. A turkey burger tastes almost exactly the same as a burger and has less calories if you get lean meat.

As for the gym, do they offer classes? For me, doing High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT). Depending on the gym, the trainers can be really helpful. There are also some workouts you can find online to do on your own (I have some I can send too).

Right now my biggest problem is the weekend; too much drinking. I’m trying to cut back on beer and wine, and I’ve cut mixed drinks completely out. That and having someone take my phone away the second I think about ordering UberEats lol.
 
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I've noticed that carbs seem to really stall my weight-loss.
Most of them are rice(brown) and sweet potatoes and even if I stay well below my allowance I start to gain weight immediately.
My first suspect was salt so I cut out salt completely for a few days to lose the water-weight but that didn't work as well as expected.
I guess it's back to high protein and veggies for me for a while.
 
@January Cyst - Sodium + carbs are a recipe for bloating and water retention. People have been known to gain even 10+lbs of pure water when carbing up after fasts. The good news is that that weight comes off just as quickly as you put it on. Bloating is especially dramatic after doing resistance workouts. (lifting heavy weights/walking long distances) since our bodies utilize our water stores to replenish/heal those sore muscles.

If you are open to help, i'd like to suggest something that may work for you. How many calories are you eating and what are your stats? (height, weight, sex) How long have you been dieting?
 
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@January Cyst - Sodium + carbs are a recipe for bloating and water retention. People have been known to gain even 10+lbs of pure water when carbing up after fasts. The good news is that that weight comes off just as quickly as you put it on. Bloating is especially dramatic after doing resistance workouts. (lifting heavy weights/walking long distances) since our bodies utilize our water stores to replenish/heal those sore muscles.

If you are open to help, I'd like to suggest something that may work for you. How many calories are you eating and what are your stats? (height, weight, sex) How long have you been dieting?


6'3 M 245lbs.
I'm currently on 1750 cal (mostly veggies and lean protein, no sugar or caffeine)
I've been on this diet for the last 3 months or so, I was down to 237 after the fast and even at a 1000+ cal deficit I've gained roughly 15 lbs in 2 days after I started eating carbs again.
 
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@January Cyst Yep, perfectly normal to gain so much weight after eating carbs again. Especially after a fast. Again, don't sweat it. It would be impossible for you to have gained 15lbs of pure FAT in two days, haha. It's just water. What matters is how slim your body is looking. This means that you're losing fat, which is the goal. Primarily your midsection/face etc...

(It is possible to lose/gain 15lbs of pure water in just 48hrs. Our bodies are cool like that. So don't worry about random weight gains like that.)

I think you should give HFLC a try and mix that with IF. Also, bump up your calories to maybe 1900-2000.
So eat within a 4hr window every day + bump up your cals + HFLC (20g carbs). I know that low carb is not everyone's cup of tea, but if you are willing to try it for 2 weeks for experimentation's sake, I'd love to hear an update on how it goes for you.
 
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I think you should give HFLC a try and mix that with IF.


That's exactly what I've been doing for the last 2-3 months, except high fat/high protein and super low carb.
Here's my mfp from today

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The sodium isn't accurate because it was just raw chicken breast, should be moderately low sodium even with a dash of sea-salt and pepper.
I'm also getting roughly 400 cals worth of exercise on average according to my fitness-tracker so bumping up the calories might not be a bad idea.
 
@January Cyst Yep, bump up those cals. (I'm a foot shorter than you and I ate more than that AND lost weight) Especially since you're on the taller side and active, it would be good for you. When you go too low, what you are doing is slowing down your metabolism. You have to train your body to expect more food so that your metabolism is not slowing to a crawl. Our bodies will adapt to anything that we do to it(homeostasis). If you eat less, then your body will burn less. You could get cold hands and feet, hair falling out etc, brittle nails...nutrition deficiency.

I recommend cronometer instead of myfitnesspal actually. What you are counting is 20g NET carbs. Not carbs. ;)
(So I recommend HFLC + IF + 2000-2400cals per day) for fat loss in particular.

Give what I said a try and watch these guys in particular:
https://www.dietdoctor.com/how-to-maximize-fat-burning
https://www.dietdoctor.com/the-5-most-common-mistakes-on-lchf

They have a free month trial that should give you access to all of the videos on their site.
 
I'm pissy because I've been doing CICO (1200) for two months now AND been going to the gym 5 times a week AND haven't lost anything for two weeks. *sigh*
 
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I'm pissy because I've been doing CICO (1200) for two months now AND been going to the gym 5 times a week AND haven't lost anything for two weeks. *sigh*

That's normal, I tend to hit plateaus every 10 elbees or so and they do last for a couple of weeks.
Check your sodium and carb intake.


Down to 235 elbees now, I am aiming for 215 as goal weight.
 
I'm pissy because I've been doing CICO (1200) for two months now AND been going to the gym 5 times a week AND haven't lost anything for two weeks. *sigh*
CICO is a relatively flawed system when it comes to sustainable and consistant loss, which makes sense when you think of set point theory. :powerlevel: I went from 267 to 126 and tbh I have no idea how many calories I eat or burn in a day. I try to keep my carbs low, fat high, and protein moderate. I wouldn't recommend going full keto, but it's a useful base for figuring out what can work for you.

That being said, I do that shit from a plant-based approach. I don't give a fuck about the ethical shit but I have increased energy, better digestion, and have had no issue putting on muscle mass. Meat-lovin' keto looks fucking gross. Try not to look at exercise as something you do to lose weight or burn off your food. What worked for me was thinking of my eating as just enough to get me through my physical activity and mental exertion. There will be days when you want to do carbs in the morning/pre gym, and there will be days that you truly do not need many.

That intuitive eating shit may not work for people like big AL but if you're in the proper frame of mind, it's a fantastic way to get to know your body. Keep a close eye on the scale, experiment with your exercise routines and you should be good. Also I'm a big fan of time-restricted feeding and intermittent fasting. Eating less often and giving your body time to actually process shit works wonders. I still use it as a way to maintain and fix the damage from weeks of stress or celebration.
 
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Here's a guide I wrote up a while back to remind myself how many calories there are in beer:

12 pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon = 1,758 calories
12 pack of Miller Lite tallboys = 1,536 calories
9 pack of Miller Lite pints = 1,152 calories
6 pack of PBR tallboys = 1,152 calories
6 pack of craft IPA = 1,116 calories
22 ounce Arrogant Bastard Ale = 578 calories

Plate of fettuccine alfredo (Olive Garden) = 1,770 calories
Footlong Bacon Chicken Ranch (Subway) = 1,100 calories
Chicken Grilled Stuffed Burrito (Taco Bell) = 870 calories
Big Mac (McDonalds) = 550 calories
 
I was very pleased to find out I'm down to 122 this morning! That's at least 4 pounds away from my target weight.

I've also been treating myself to low-calorie ice pops; mostly Outshine fruit bars and Kool-Aid ice pops- they're not sugary and still taste nice and light. Now to just get into the habit of drinking more millk...
 
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A weight-loss thread? Great! A place where I can talk about dieting without being kicked out for apparently fat shaming!

I seem to have a real problem with sticking to things when it comes to dieting (and being in a country where junk food is apparently more important than breathing doesn't help). Like, I can do good for a month, but then I'll completely go off the rails and ruin everything I've done. Does anybody have any tips or advice for this issue that have helped them out? I'd greatly appreciate it.
 
A weight-loss thread? Great! A place where I can talk about dieting without being kicked out for apparently fat shaming!

I seem to have a real problem with sticking to things when it comes to dieting (and being in a country where junk food is apparently more important than breathing doesn't help). Like, I can do good for a month, but then I'll completely go off the rails and ruin everything I've done. Does anybody have any tips or advice for this issue that have helped them out? I'd greatly appreciate it.
lol fatty
 
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I was very pleased to find out I'm down to 122 this morning! That's at least 4 pounds away from my target weight.

I've also been treating myself to low-calorie ice pops; mostly Outshine fruit bars and Kool-Aid ice pops- they're not sugary and still taste nice and light. Now to just get into the habit of drinking more millk...
I was shocked to see Outshine popsicles are low calorie. They certainly don't taste that way.
 
A weight-loss thread? Great! A place where I can talk about dieting without being kicked out for apparently fat shaming!

I seem to have a real problem with sticking to things when it comes to dieting (and being in a country where junk food is apparently more important than breathing doesn't help). Like, I can do good for a month, but then I'll completely go off the rails and ruin everything I've done. Does anybody have any tips or advice for this issue that have helped them out? I'd greatly appreciate it.

Planning ahead (meal and snack prep, checking out restaurant menus beforehand, etc.) is extremely important imo. Also set yourself up for success by only keeping healthy staple foods in your house.

But yeah, weight loss and dieting can get tedious and boring really quickly. Try looking up new recipes and doing new types of exercise and other physical activities to help with some of that. I won't pretend it's easy. This process can be a slow, frustrating pain in the ass.
 
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