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How do y'all get your protein?
Everyone else had good ideas, but for me I just try to make sure that I'm getting enough protein at every meal. To me, a meal has to have protein, carbs, and fat. My usual choices of protein are: chicken, shrimp, fish, and most times I'll add a bit of tofu or eggs somewhere in a dish to get some extra protein. E.g., whenever I make rice I'll always cook it with 2-3 eggs. Usually I have a smoothie somewhere in the day too with a serving of protein powder.

If you're serious about being healthy, it's a good idea to actually sit down and plan your meals. I have about 60-90 recipes that I know are healthy and nutritious. I have the macro-nutrients and calories for these recipes written down, plus the serving sizes. I decide what I eat for the whole week every Sunday based on my nutritional needs for that week. I find that doing this saves me time deciding, cooking, and shopping.

On the days when I need a bit more protein, or maybe I'm a bit snack-ish, I opt for protein bars. There's this one really good brand called "Pure Protein" and I love them because there's very few sugars in it and they have really good flavours.

Assuming you can stick to it, its generally hard to eat 1500-2000 calories in a single meal unless you are genuinely trying to do it.
A lot of people underestimate how much they're eating or how caloric their food can be. That's why it's so important to be cognizant of caloric values in food and understand how the different macro-nutrients will impact ones satiation.
 
My 2 cents about losing weight. Salad and meat will make it easier to lose weight since you can eat big amount and still be under 1000 calories.
Cardio won't burn much but it is good to have to have piece of mind that you are not over your calories.
drink lots of water at once when you feel hungry ( I've noticed that sometime water would keep me full for longer)
get confutable with being hungry and not eating
Find lower calories version of your favorite meals
if you are not mentally tough then throw out everything expect lean food and fruits and vegetables
try not eating something for 24 hours, it helped me learn to endure hunger.
find someone to keep you accountable
 
I just did a week of water fasting.

Anyone ever pushed beyond this? I wonder what is different after this point or it is just the same shit as before.
 
Forgive the essay - I've wanted to talk about this whole experience somewhere and I guess "somewhere" ended up being this thread on Kiwi Farms.

TLDR - lost a ton of weight a few years ago, had skin surgery, gained most of it back (but differently post-skin surgery), lost it again with the help of a GLP-1, feeling good

As of today I'm about 90 pounds down from where I was 13 months ago (beginning of July 2024) when I started taking tirzepatide - first from a compounding telehealth company, then brand name Zepbound when my insurance started covering it in November.

I'm 5'2", started last year at 271 and am now at 180lbs.

I've lost over 100lbs before, in 2017-2018. I went from 281 > 170. I did it the "natural" way - changing diet and increasing exercise. I started distance running at around a year in/210 pounds and completed tons of half marathons and 2 marathons before I started dealing with chronic pain in 2021. I had skin removal surgery (tummy tuck and breast lift) at the end of 2018.

I did initially gain some weight back from my lowest, especially once I wasn't marathon training anymore, but was sitting comfortably (without thinking too hard about it) around 190-200 pounds for quite a while until I went through a divorce with a BPDemon in the fall of 2022. Still dealing with the chronic pain, now with some serious emotional issues happening at the same time, I fell back into old binge habits and pretty quickly put on a LOT of weight. Weirdly, I didn't notice it THAT much as it was happening. I definitely was deliberately ignoring the signs like "none of my clothes fit anymore" and "my face looks completely different", but because of the skin surgery my body shape was very different from when I started in 2017, so I was able to convince myself it wasn't as bad as it really was. I didn't get a big belly again, I mostly just was... wider. Lots more weight in my face, arms and boobs (not dissimilar to how good ol' Glitter and Lasers seems to be finally sprouting some "boobs" now that her body fat won't go to the same places). I went to an annual check up in May of last year, found out I had early NAFL, and finally faced the scale to see that I was 10 lbs down from my highest weight.

I've been trying to get prescribed a weight loss injection for several years now, but decided to finally pull the trigger and pay out of pocket for the medication from a compounding pharmacy, and I am incredibly grateful to my past self for doing it. For me at least, this is a miracle drug and I tell everyone who asks me about it. I know how to lose weight. I lost over 100 pounds. It's not an issue of lack of knowledge or willpower. But I grew up fat with a mom who has struggled with weight her entire life (one obese parent - 50% chance of obese child), and I think I was suffering from a bit of the "Biggest Loser effect", where my calorie needs will always be lower than a person at the same weight who has never been significantly heavier. The medication has made it just easy for me to do what I did with significant effort when I lost weight before - eat less fucking food. I'm a short, small-framed woman - I don't need to eat that many calories, especially when not training for endurance running.

The food noise thing is so fucking real. The first time I really felt it was at a party a few weeks into taking the medication - usually my mind would be consumed with the sweets "situation" - How much have I eaten? How much is left? Is anyone watching me? Should I get some now? How about now? How long can I hold out? and on and on. With the medication, I didn't think about it. Like, at all. I saw the sweets, was like, oh cool, cookies, and didn't even eat any. If you've never experienced the loud and repetitive inner monologue of food noise, it might not seem like such a big deal, but it truly is life-changing for me. My experience has been that it's time to change my dose when the food noise starts picking up.

My NAFL was gone by the 6 month check up ultrasound. My chronic pain is gone (partially from weight loss, and partially from some mental work - strong recommend for the book "The Way Out" and learning about neuroplastic pain). I fit in straight size clothes again and I can actually get things in petite sizing which fits much better. My face looks like my face. Food doesn't take over my life or my thoughts and I haven't had even the slightest urge to binge in over a year. My tummy tuck and breast lift have both held up pretty well, but I do have more loose skin on my arms, neck and inner thighs than I did before because of gaining weight there post-surgery. I don't love it but probably wouldn't seek surgery again at least until after I have kids (which is something I want to do in the next 4-5 years).

It's pretty embarrassing to have to lose over 100 pounds twice, but I'm determined to never have to do it a THIRD time. I'm not sure how much more weight I'll lose, as I imagine the medication might make it possible to get to a lower weight than I was able to without it. I'm prepared to have to take it at a maintenance dose for the rest of my life if needed - it's given me my life back, as dramatic as that is to say. I feel in control of my body in a way that I don't think I ever have before. If GLP-1s were not available, I would probably have tried for bariatric surgery because I just don't know that I could do it all again totally on my own, but I'm very glad that the medication DOES exist and I haven't had to undergo surgery and permanently alter my digestive tract to take it.

I have a lot of thoughts about the experience of moving through the world as a woman at these very different weights - people really do treat you differently when you're fat (I mean, I'm still fat, but you know what I mean). Having experienced both ends of this spectrum twice in less than a decade has been fascinating and not something that I think a lot of people can relate to.

As for what I've been eating - I've always been a creature of habit when it comes to food, like I can happily eat the exact same meal every day for years on end, and the medication makes this even more pronounced. I've had the same beefed-up Huel nearly every day and sometimes that's the only "meal" I can really stomach. I make it with Fairlife milk, an additional protein powder, fiber, flax and chia seeds, sometimes egg whites, sometimes a bit of frozen banana, creatine, and collagen- comes out to about 800 calories and over 100 grams of protein, give or take, so if that's all I eat in a (sedentary) day, I at least know I'm getting my basic vitamins, minerals, fiber, and lots of protein. Other than that I eat a lot of skyr with frozen berries, eggs, kimchi, avocado, in season fruit, tuna, and just a little too obsessed with the snack size Perfect Bars. I very rarely eat meat, as I kind of lost my taste for it a few years ago. I'm not precisely counting calories but I do have a rough idea of what I'm having every day which is usually somewhere between 1100-1700 calories.

What I need to work on now is getting back into a regular exercise routine - I haven't started running again because I'm scared of the pain returning, but I know that was really good for me both mentally and physically. I was lifting regularly until the end of last year when I couldn't afford the gym I was going to and I definitely need to get back into that (which I'm sure will help prevent issues from the running - last time I was running regularly I was doing almost no weight training and it definitely contributed to my issues). I could also stand to eat more vegetables and in general want to cook a bit more, as I've really fallen out of the habit since being single again.

Keep on keeping on, fat Kiwis. I find it so much more fun to laugh at dumb ass fat lolcows when I'm not doing the same dumb ass fat shit they're doing.
 
Der Sneeder is losing weight, I am losing weight! It’s a good time all around. I have starting around 350lbs. I am currently 293lbs (give or take about 4 pounds, I have uneven floors). My target weight is around 250lbs but I’ll start exercise relatively soon. I can already feel the benefits in physical mobility. I can twist and turn with greater ease, bend at the waist much further and even get down on one knee without feeling like I need to do it slowly without feel like I’ll fall over.

I will grant the speed at which I have lost this weight may not be the best thanks to my prescription of Vyvanse but fuck it, it helps to not feel the desire to snack like a fucking pig on top of having better focus.
 
All right tubby tits. I got a question. I've been on a calorie deficit for a month. It's nothing major just ~500 under maintenance but I've been hitting my pre weight loss protein target and doing intensive exercise this entire time. I haven't lost a kilo in spite of having to go down by about 2 by now. Do I need to lower protein intake or what?
 
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I hope this is the right place to ask...

I want to lose weight. I'd like to lose 40 pounds by December. I'm trying to eat less (I don't knkw if I'll diet). I'd like to exercise, but I often go home late, and I don't live in a good area for me to go walking. So, I was looking for fitness equipment. However, I live in a tiny apartment and I don't have a lot of space. Can anyone recommend some small equipment? I was looking at this, and maybe some weights?
As a fellow short (5'4) and fat woman (was 210 at my heighest in November 2024, currently at 172lbs, 34% body fat as of August 1st) I hope the following advice is helpful to you.

If you want to lose weight you must clean up your diet. This is non-negotiable. Of the 38lbs I lost I attribute 90% of it to reducing my consumption of fast food with the other 10% being down to walking. Walking is the only exercise available to me as I can't afford a gym membership currently. According to my step calculator app, I burn approximately 400 calories when I walk 10,000 steps. That seems like a lot and it is, but for reference a small bar of Cabury's chocolate is 250 calories. If I eat two I've just wiped the calorie deficit I've created and am now in a caloric surplus. Fitness (which isn't easy to begin when you're overweight) can't compensate for a poor diet, so nourishing your body is key.

In addition to reducing my takeout consumption I switched from regular soda to the zero sugar variety, as these foods were the major contributors to my weight gain. I also focused on cooking healthy meals that are nourishing, satiating and easy to make such as macaroni and cheese with vegetables, spaghetti bolognese, cheese burgers with lettuce instead of a bun, etc. These meals contain carbs, proteins and fats which will keep you feeling full for longer. For snacks I enjoy yoghurts, high protein low calorie ice cream, plain biscuits and sandwiches with plenty of leafy greens and meat. Since November I've had periods of rigidity and flexibility; I avoided chocolate and crisps during spring and practiced water fasting, but over the summer did indulge in some sweet treats. However, this was safe for me to do as I had gotten into the mindset of dieting before I embraced diet flexibility, and was able to inegrate these foods into my diet while still losing weight. I also did not track my calories during this time, so you don't need to calorie count to lose weight. What you do need to be doing is identifying the most fattening foods you're eating and either reduce your intake significantly or eliminate altogether for a period of time. Focus on what you can add to your meals instead of substracting - for example, if you like breakfast cereal, small amounts of fruits, seeds and healthy yoghurts to go alongside it will add nutritional value to your meal. I follow cooking and baking channels on YouTube that give me inspiration for foods I want to eat to help with this, such as Nutrition Matters and Nutrition by Kylie. Cooking versions of your favourite fast food at home as well is also a good idea, as whatever you cook is likely to be lower in calories while being just as tasty.

Given that you seem to live in a dangerous area, how about exercising at home? You don't even need any equipment. You can download a step tracker on your phone (I use Pedometer Step Counter), put it in your pocket and follow an exercise from YouTube or even dance to some music. Anything that gets your heart rate up will burn calories.

In terms of creating your caloric deficit, women do not do as well with massive deficits the way men do due to our menstrual cycle and other physiological factors. Your basal metabolic rate (which you can calculate online) + your activity level minus 500 calories should be effective enough at triggering fat loss without feeling too hungry, which will likely trigger a relapse into old eating habits.

I hope some of this advice is helpful to you. Best of luck Kiwisister!
 
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All right tubby tits. I got a question. I've been on a calorie deficit for a month. It's nothing major just ~500 under maintenance but I've been hitting my pre weight loss protein target and doing intensive exercise this entire time. I haven't lost a kilo in spite of having to go down by about 2 by now. Do I need to lower protein intake or what?
Did you gain muscle? Are your clothes fitting a little looser?
 
Did you gain muscle? Are your clothes fitting a little looser?
I don't really see a difference. Not sure if my clothes have gotten a bit looser, I can't really tell. I have been able to increase the weights and reps I use just fine so I'm getting slightly stronger. Maybe a month is not enough to see a difference.
 
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All right tubby tits. I got a question. I've been on a calorie deficit for a month. It's nothing major just ~500 under maintenance but I've been hitting my pre weight loss protein target and doing intensive exercise this entire time. I haven't lost a kilo in spite of having to go down by about 2 by now. Do I need to lower protein intake or what?
Are you sore? IIRC, getting sore can lead to fluid retention.

Alternatively, try to double check your calorie count. 500 is an ok deficit if you can actually ensure it is 500. But people tend to underestimate their eating and eat into their deficits and either cause a slower than expected progress or non at all.

If 500 isn't working for your, try a more aggressive deficit, about 1000 or so.
 
All right tubby tits. I got a question. I've been on a calorie deficit for a month. It's nothing major just ~500 under maintenance but I've been hitting my pre weight loss protein target and doing intensive exercise this entire time. I haven't lost a kilo in spite of having to go down by about 2 by now. Do I need to lower protein intake or what?
Weight is a rough guide but it's not the gold standard. The gold standard is body fat measurements done in a lab. But the gold standard is not really viable for anybody but professional athletes. The silver standard is a pair of callipers and a measuring tape. These are.

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I would get yourself a set like this - they're pretty cheap, and take the time to do all the measurements properly - arms, chest, thighs, waist and hips. You care about losing weight you can take ten minutes once every couple of weeks.

This will help you distinguish between weight loss and fat loss. It's the starting point for anybody who is trying to lose fat by exercise and diet, not just diet. Especially if doing weight training.

All that said, if you're consistently ~500KCal below maintenance I don't see how you can not be losing weight. Are you absolutely tracking this accurately? When you say "go down by 2", what - dress sizes? I don't see how that's possible if you're not losing fat. Protein isn't magic and doesn't just graft itself onto the muscles. It is very difficult to build muscle whilst losing body fat and usually only possible for beginners who are are starting with fairly low muscle and are pretty tubby.

Are you sore? IIRC, getting sore can lead to fluid retention.
Also some supplements like creatine can increase fluid retention.

I honestly think re-assessing calorie intake is necessary. 500KCal below maintenance for a month should result in some weight loss. But also recent meals and fluid levels can really affect measured weight as well. Which is why I always recommend a daily weigh in at the same time and using the averages over a week for comparison.

I don't know where all these people come from who say they're below maintenance weight consistently but aren't losing weight. Magic people!
 
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All that said, if you're consistently ~500KCal below maintenance I don't see how you can not be losing weight. Are you absolutely tracking this accurately?
I'm doing calorie counting using MyNetDiary. I weigh all my food and use the caloric numbers of the packaging if it's not something home cooked. I also add about 10% as a margin of error when tabulating my calories.
When you say "go down by 2", what - dress sizes?
I meant 2 kgs, killograms. I'm currently 90 and want to drop 2kg as part of my cut-bulk cycle. Previous one went just fine but this one hit a snag. I can only imagine it's a mixture of the exercise frequency and intensity since it's the only thing that changed. My diet is mostly the same, I take the same supplements in the same amounts at the same time.
I honestly think re-assessing calorie intake is necessary. 500KCal below maintenance for a month should result in some weight loss. But also recent meals and fluid levels can really affect measured weight as well. Which is why I always recommend a daily weigh in at the same time and using the averages over a week for comparison.
I weigh myself every Sunday morning. I could do it more often I guess.
I don't know where all these people come from who say they're below maintenance weight consistently but aren't losing weight. Magic people!
This isn't the first time this has happened. When I was trying to aim for 80kg a year ago when I reached 84 I hit a wall. Even when I increased the deficit to ~1300 calories from the 1000 I was using for my original weight loss(btw I hit multiple hover weights along the way, every 5 ish killos I would have to wait 2-3 weeks for progress to show). I saw no progress for 2 months. I also could feel myself getting more lethargic and weaker so I just stopped and went the other way.
 
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I meant 2 kgs, killograms. I'm currently 90 and want to drop 2kg as part of my cut-bulk cycle
Oh. I think you meant to write that you hope to drop 2kg. You mistyped and I thought you said had "dropped 2".

Well then my first thing to suggest would be to up the frequency of your weighing. 0.5kg is easily within margin of error from day to day just based on contents of your digestive tract and fluid retention. IF you have been consistently below your maintenance requirements for a month, then you must lose weight on average. So one of three things is happening: You're wrong on your maintenance requirement, you're wrong on your calorie intake, you're wrong on your measurements. Last is easiest and quickest to resolve so take your weight every morning on waking (suggested regular time that works for most) and compare that average to the next week's average, an so on. It's also entirely possible that you were on a low weight when you picked your starting point to measure from.
 
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How are you calculating the calories burned from exercise. My first guess would be that you're overestimating here.

I can easily change my weight by 3-4 kg in a day or two, without any actual fat/muscle gain/loss, just based off of GI contents, electrolytes, water retention, sleep, stress, etc ... Weighing daily helps to give a smoother trend line, where you can see a moving average, and more accurately assess weight changes, rather than potentially just looking at a few outlier days, where you're abnormally heavy for one reason or another.

Not sure if you're a man or woman, but where you are in your menstrual cycle can have a pretty significant impact on water retention. Hypothetically, if you weighed yourself at the lowest point, and then again at the highest point, those weights being the same would suggest that you've lost a few kilos.

As a rule of thumb, protein is the last thing you want to decrease in a diet. Its generally relatively satiating, causes greater thermogenesis, and helps to maintain lean body mass. Granted, the higher your body fat is, the lower protein you can get away with before it becomes a real issue, but still. You want to reduce either carbs or fats.

If you're not explicitly following a low carb/keto diet plan, its generally easier to reduce fats first. You do need some fat, to support hormone production, mood, and digestion. Off the top of my head, somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 g is probably enough. Once you've worked down to your floor for fat intake, then you can start lowering carbs to create more of a deficit, if necessary.

If you have a super strong preference for a little more fat, that's fine, you can bring carbs down sooner. Just keep in mind that with most people, there's a weird no mans land, where they're not eating enough carbs for their body to use them as the main energy source, but they're also eating too many carbs to be in ketosis, so they just kind of feel like shit. Somewhere around 100 or so is where people tend to run into issues.
 
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How are you calculating the calories burned from exercise. My first guess would be that you're overestimating here
I don't actually tabulate my exercises. All my weight loss is calculated assuming a fully sedentary life style.

Weighing daily helps to give a smoother trend line, where you can see a moving average, and more accurately assess weight changes, rather than potentially just looking at a few outlier days, where you're abnormally heavy for one reason or another.
Well I started doing it and I got 91.7 yesterday and 90.9 today. But I was wondering if my scale was low on battery and I changed it then got 92.5 . Then 10 minutes later I got 90.6. I think my scale is borked and I don't actually know what I weigh right now and how much I was last month. I'll just have to get a new one and start again.

Update: Got a new scale. The results weren't consistent between measurements. Turns out the spot I had the scale wasn't level. So I had to spend an hour molesting the floor with a bubble level. Eventually I found the most flat spot I could and began testing the scales with my weights. The older one was consistently under weight and had a bigger margin of error that fluctuated both up and down between test weights. But the new scale on flat ground was pretty consistent. So now I know my measurements are consistent if not correct. I'll stop my weight loss this week, hold for a month and then plot a new cutting month. I'll also go to my doctor and get properly weighed.
 
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