Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

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Partypal said:
Odd split. Update me on the results
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So far I've noticed myself gassing out harder than usual after two consecutive days. Spoke with the guy who put the program together for me - he said to take a rest day between each lift day because the program is stressing more large muscle groups at once.

I'll keep making updates as I get more lift days under my belt.
 
VargReallyDidNothingWrong said:
So far I've noticed myself gassing out harder than usual after two consecutive days. Spoke with the guy who put the program together for me - he said to take a rest day between each lift day because the program is stressing more large muscle groups at once.

I'll keep making updates as I get more lift days under my belt.
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No shit lmao. I just do a regular PPL program, and even with that I take one or two rest days between lift days. You're a brave soul trying to take no days between what you're doing. Recovery is more important than the actual lifting after all.
 
Went to the gym for the first time in the however many months its been since I graduated. I thought that doing some calisthenics would've kept me in half decent shape. Wrong.

It's been three days since I did an arm day and I can't curl or extend my arm, whereas my younger sibling is fine as they've been active. Humbling to say the least.
 
totally not noone said:
I coincidentally jus came back from the gym myself, working out at home hasn’t been cutting it for me (ba dum ts) and I wanted to try out the equipment.

i did okay with the stuff but the environment was just as unwelcoming as i remembered it being the last time i tried a public jim. home workout ftw I don’t know why I ever doubted you. I’ll jus try to fit in some more, better ‘quipment until I get my own space.
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Unwelcoming how? I've never had an issue in the gym
 
I just put in my earbuds and ignore people. The only time I ever talk to anyone except my wife is to ask if they're using a machine that they're standing by (99% of the time they're not).

I switched to a floating ppl split. 3 days on two days off. Been on it for about two months now. Making decent progress. Been doing Zercher squats for my compound squat motion for the past few weeks. They're really fun. Still progressing quickly because it's a new motion but I'm looking forward to finding my ceiling and settling in for the grind. Got Oly shoes and they make all the difference in depth. Using them on Zerchers and leg press has been killing my quads. Zerchers really load the adductors too since I have to squat wide to let my elbows through. Feels like someone took a baseball bat to the inside of my thighs.
 
Home gym is master race.

So I'm close but not there in re to muscle ups, what should I do to finally bang out one out again?
 
VargReallyDidNothingWrong said:
I've been doing zercher squats too because I'm squatting without a rack and man, the bar hurts the insides of my elbows. How do guys do them with more than 1 plate?
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I'm at 235 x 6 right now for my working sets. It hurt a lot more below 185 than above it for some reason? I don't really notice it now. I think once you load enough weight onto your arms your brain just focuses harder on completing the motion rather than the pain. However I do load from a rack and can position my arms just right rather than doing the deadlift onto the knees thing that you have to do without a rack. This could all be highly individually variable as well. I do have some bruising and tenderness the day after.
 
Getting a home gym was the best thing I ever did for myself. Just got a rack (with pull-up bar), bench, barbell, plates, and some adjustable dumbbells. I hated going to a gym, but I love lifting, and that's really all the equipment I need. Just too much time spent getting ready and going to and fro, gotta work out with other people, and I gotta keep track of my stuff. Now I just strip down to my skivvies and I'm done in an hour. Plus, the equipment should pay for itself in a couple years.

Very excited to bulk this winter and see the lifts go up, but first I gotta cut some more fat. 10lbs to go, then either maintenance or cut a little more. I'm getting back into it so I'm lifting bitch weight right now, but I should be in good shape by the time beach season rolls around.
 
I knew women would find me more attractive once the muscles started broadening me out (kinda trippin' my 'tism tbh, feels like college) - but no one told me that everyone would be so much nicer to me as well.

Like last year if I was at the counter of a pizza place and in someone's way, and politely stepped aside, I'd get this subtle 'yeah, that's right, you're in my way' vibe. Now at the same place, if I step aside, it's like 'OMG he's a gentleman too!' And a hundred other little interactions like that.

I was not expecting life to literally get easier. Gymbros should advertise that more often to their converts.
 
Legalize Asbestos said:
so much nicer to me as well.
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It's so true, people treat a fit person much better than someone who's out of shape. The work you put in is written all over you, and I think that speaks to people. Plus, you got sexy muscles. People like sexy muscles.

But it's a secret. Can't let the normies or the fats know. The mogging is an important aspect.
 
Kurmudgeon said:
But it's a secret.
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Is this one of those things where people punish you for talking about it (huh, yeah, well I'd go if I had time but I work too hard! Uhm. Actually, some people aren't born with good genes for that, h'mkay?) so everyone just says nothing about it ever?
 
Legalize Asbestos said:
Is this one of those things where people punish you for talking about it
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Nah, not really, but it's not something I'd talk about with my coworkers. I'd happily
encourage everyone to exercise, but I wouldn't cite being treated better as a potential benefit, even though it totally is. I think everyone knows it on some level, but people will make excuses not to exercise in the first place. It's like a positive side effect of putting your health first.

It's like, those who do it know, but those who don't, don't know. You know?
 
Legalize Asbestos said:
Is this one of those things where people punish you for talking about it (huh, yeah, well I'd go if I had time but I work too hard! Uhm. Actually, some people aren't born with good genes for that, h'mkay?) so everyone just says nothing about it ever?
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Kurmudgeon said:
I think everyone knows it on some level
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Pretty much.

Your body is emblematic of your virtues in a way that's pretty hard to fake. You cannot be fat without being a glutton and a sloth; by the cold hard laws of thermodynamics, you cannot be fat without taking more than you need and doing less than you should. Conversely, you cannot be strong without hard work and discipline. You can end up lean by being a crack head or a junkie or an anorexic -- all you have to do is nothing -- but you cannot be strong without working for it. Your reasons for doing so may or may not be virtuous, you could be a well adjusted contributing member of society or a zoomer faggot with an instagram addiction and consequent body dysmorphia or a traumatized lunatic with mountains of repressed rage and a neurotic need to be physically capable of defending yourself, but nobody can operate under the delusion that you did not work hard, at least in one regard.

Also people just treat you better when they think you could kill them, which is fine too.

As for why people don't want to talk about it, it's something everyone knows deep down but doesn't want to hear because then they have to confront the fact that their body is a monument to their sins.
 
Buddy of mine who’s constantly bitching about being 150lbs for as long as I’ve known him saying he wishes he could eat a donut but he just finished breakfast so couldn’t. I had to scold him for the 6 millionth time that this is why you can’t gain weight. Have a donut. Have two. Goddamnit.
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Or learn to love yourself.
 
HowlingChasm said:
Buddy of mine who’s constantly bitching about being 150lbs for as long as I’ve known him saying he wishes he could eat a donut but he just finished breakfast so couldn’t. I had to scold him for the 6 millionth time that this is why you can’t gain weight. Have a donut. Have two. Goddamnit.
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Or learn to love yourself.
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well... if he doesn't have feel hungry it's awful to force yourself to eat. You get nauseous and at some point you feel like throwing up. The best he can do is to eat calorie dense foods and try to boost his appetite (flavoring foods, eating "liquids" aka smoothies instead of solids, setting up timers, eating foods he likes a lot more often, etc)
ironically the best best he could do is tracking his calories as if he were fat and trying to increase the calories by 200 per week until he reaches a good weight (idk 160 or 175), staying there and increasing the calories when he stops making gains.
 
HowlingChasm said:
Buddy of mine who’s constantly bitching about being 150lbs for as long as I’ve known him saying he wishes he could eat a donut but he just finished breakfast so couldn’t. I had to scold him for the 6 millionth time that this is why you can’t gain weight. Have a donut. Have two. Goddamnit.
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Or learn to love yourself.
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Tell him I got 20 pounds of belly fat I am willing to share
 
HowlingChasm said:
Buddy of mine who’s constantly bitching about being 150lbs for as long as I’ve known him saying he wishes he could eat a donut but he just finished breakfast so couldn’t. I had to scold him for the 6 millionth time that this is why you can’t gain weight. Have a donut. Have two. Goddamnit.
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Or learn to love yourself.
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Unironically needs 4 scoops of mutant mass.

DSP's Tax Lawyer said:
Tell him I got 20 pounds of belly fat I am willing to share
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You and me both, my brother in visceral fat.
 
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