Wendigoon Thread

[FILTH Tourist]

I thought Wendi didn't like AI art? Isn't this intro all AI shit?

Looked like CGI with filters. But at the end of the day AI art is like normal art When it is good, people won't notice or complain, when it is bad people will bitch about it.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

When I heard "24-hour writing challenge" everything made sense. The whole time I was wondering wtf happened because Borrasca was fucking great, and this was a really fun episode.

 

[Rick The Stick]

Part V was so bad I'm just confused. I didn't like the other Borrasca episode either but this is just impressive. I'm actually surprised it took the guys like 3/4 of the story before crashing outright, but it's funny that they'd been clearly holding it back in the hopes the story got better.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

One of the goofier moments in the podcast version is, after Sam blows up on Mira because he sees his brother-nephew with her, since their cover is already blown he and Kimber take some Christmas lights that were hanging up in the park and use them to write something like "Drisking: The town built on RAPE" in front of town hall, just in case you needed to be reminded that rape happened before the supervillain monolog at the end

 

[Godchu]

It's uncanny how similar this is to Deepwoods. That's why I don't buy the whole spite theory personally. Maybe by the end when she clearly gave up it's true, but people are quick to forget the 15 preceding chapters that were actually trying to be serious and cathartic.

Course, that section itself went on for way too long--like the writer herself had no clue where to take the story--and by the time it finally went anywhere all the build up had totally crumbled away because the characters were complete dumbasses that ruined their own plans all by themselves (perhaps the water made them more than infertile...?), so she had to come up with this batshit stupid copout of a plan that was in no way feasable nor satisfying. I'd have rather they snuck up to the mine like Solid Snake and killed everyone all sneakily instead. Would have at least more sense that even whatever the fuck Kimber was planning (that was never explained. Guess she was just going to walk in and rip and tear her way through the guards till she reached the sheriff.)

Overall, not that great a crash out as I was hoping. Maybe it's just that everyone knew Borrasca V was trash and we already saw how much the author's stories can derail, or the story was too serious for too long and only gradually started slipping by the end, or maybe tje in-person format, but their reaction like a contractual obligation. We need a proper crash out, but I worry they're getting too big to do that kind of stuff anymore.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

Overall, not that great a crash out as I was hoping. Maybe it's just that everyone knew Borrasca V was trash and we already saw how much the author's stories can derail, or the story was too serious for too long and only gradually started slipping by the end, or maybe tje in-person format, but their reaction like a contractual obligation. We need a proper crash out, but I worry they're getting too big to do that kind of stuff anymore.

When it comes to this part I literally have no idea what your talking about. Can you be more specific? They're literally mocking the story by the end.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Let me put my lit-crit hat on for a moment here. Despite this being a one day writing challenge fuck-it-let’s-goof-around deal, it had ideas that could be expanded on very well.
I would have liked if it turned out the operation was dead and the town was just any other destitute shithole. If there was literally nothing happening anymore that could easily become a story about fighting and letting go of the past, a very introspective story about dealing with absurd levels of trauma and the spirals that come off of that.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

Let me put my lit-crit hat on for a moment here. Despite this being a one day writing challenge fuck-it-let’s-goof-around deal, it had ideas that could be expanded on very well.
I would have liked if it turned out the operation was dead and the town was just any other destitute shithole. If there was literally nothing happening anymore that could easily become a story about fighting and letting go of the past, a very introspective story about dealing with absurd levels of trauma and the spirals that come off of that.

"Fuck that! I'm an alpha and this is a business!"

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

Let me put my lit-crit hat on for a moment here. Despite this being a one day writing challenge fuck-it-let’s-goof-around deal, it had ideas that could be expanded on very well.
I would have liked if it turned out the operation was dead and the town was just any other destitute shithole. If there was literally nothing happening anymore that could easily become a story about fighting and letting go of the past, a very introspective story about dealing with absurd levels of trauma and the spirals that come off of that.

That would have been a really interesting take. Maybe even go as far as having it be one of those federal superfund sites where no one can move in and those who move out receive assistance once the EPA finds out about the water. Have it be not just destitute but with row after row of houses rotting away and just a couple of people hanging on and refusing to leave as allegories for not being able to let go

You could even still have the 'epic' confrontation at the end, have Sam's dad as one of those who refused to leave, he still has a handful of girls, even just one, in the 'stables'. Rather than a supervillain he's just an impotent rapist finally getting what's coming for him, and Sam finally saves a girl to ease his guilt from not being able to save Whitney. If you want to go really saccahrin and over the top have the girl he saved give birth on the way to the hospital after being rescued. She doesn't want the baby, so Sam takes him or her

I don't know how to reconcile the Kyle/Kimber thing. I think Kyle dying a hero would have been better. Maybe he really was braindead. Kimber is his last surviving family member, so she gets to say goodbye and pull the plug after they find him

 

[Poteto]

I think I'm now able to put into words exactly why borrasca v is so shitty not only in execution but also conceptually. It's been said a lot before that this kind of conclusion wasn't necessary, but listening to it again I thought more about what wendigoon said about this not being the point of the original one. It is so much worse than being unnecessary, it is actively harmful and invalidating.

It's like if George Orwell wrote a sequel to 1984 where Winston breaks Julia's programming and then they take down big brother and insoc. The horror of 1984 is that the circumstances of their world are so deeply entrenched that it is impossible for anyone to do anything about it. "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face— forever." That is the ending that borrasca part 4 leaves the audience with. Wendigoon also said if he wanted the kind of happy ending v does, he would feel like that's a juvenile response to the original. That kind of ending for 1984 is the kind of thing that only a child or teenager could seriously want, literally juvenile. It's not only horrifying that this is happening, but the horror is enhanced even further by the fact that it's impossible to stop it, just like in the real world, you can catch individual sex traffickers, or even groups, but it is always going to be happening to someone somewhere. You could be sex trafficked and raped and you could bring the people who did that to you to justice, but it's still horrifying to know that a lot of other people out there are experiencing the same fate and there's nothing you can do about it, and the overwhelming majority of them will never get justice. In many of these situations, the happiest ending you can hope for as a victim is making it out alive so you can find a way to cope and move on and live a life, and just like a regular life, getting those things isn't a guarantee, you are just given the opportunity to peruse that and it isn't working out well for sam while kimber is coping better. That is the "happy" ending that Sam and Kimber were already given in part 4.

This leads me to change my mind about the idea that it is possible to write a happy ending to borrasca, if done right. Any happy ending invalidates what made the original effective. The best you could go for is something that is shaping up to be a happy ending, but then cynically ends with the same defeated helplessness that the original did, so it would be a subversion that loops back around to the original "message" and reinforces it. for example, they are somehow able to kill one or two people who they think will make a big difference like the sheriff and maybe jimmy prescott as well (probably with an indirect method like poisoning because it's impossible to have sam and kimber survive any form of direct confrontation and have it not jump the shark like it does with the final showdown of v), thinking if the people in leadership positions fall then so does everything else and maybe they can even rescue a woman or two or kyle and they celebrate this as a victory but then that victory is deflated when they discover that nothing really changed and the status quo will continue as business as usual because what is going on is bigger than any of them are able to affect any change upon as individuals, and just like in real life, government corruption keeps the government from doing anything and it's the only thing big enough to stop it, kind of like how epstein was arrested in 2019 and we still don't have the list and probably never will.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

That would have been a really interesting take. Maybe even go as far as having it be one of those federal superfund sites where no one can move in and those who move out receive assistance once the EPA finds out about the water. Have it be not just destitute but with row after row of houses rotting away and just a couple of people hanging on and refusing to leave as allegories for not being able to let go

Kinda like in Mad Max: Fury Road when there turns out to be no Green Place, where this thing you were searching for to make everything ok just doesn't exist. But the inverse, where the monster you geared up to fight died long before you got there and now you have to turn the fight inwards.
Imagine this. They're all hyped up, it's emotional, they bust into Borassca and boom. Nothing. Not a single fucking thing, just a bare cave. Now that would be a fucking twist, but what can you do.

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

Kinda like in Mad Max: Fury Road when there turns out to be no Green Place, where this thing you were searching for to make everything ok just doesn't exist. But the inverse, where the monster you geared up to fight died long before you got there and now you have to turn the fight inwards.
Imagine this. They're all hyped up, it's emotional, they bust into Borassca and boom. Nothing. Not a single fucking thing, just a bare cave. Now that would be a fucking twist, but what can you do.

I really like that. Just to play off of your Green Place idea, where it's something that's basically been elevated to the status of a legend, early on (probably part 1, they're still kids) they call borrasca "the place where bad things happen." For the anticlimactic finale they could end it with "the place where nothing good happens" when they're denied whatever closure they were hoping to find by going back

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Sesseur (real name Jeff Case), the author of Jeff The Killer was recently exposed after an intensive investigation (conducted by the same people who have, for years, tried to find the unedited JTK image, with an 11k bounty for the person that does) with an over 10,000 word document that details some things such as:

-How Jeff was involved in the grooming of a 13 year old fan of his work by directing her to his pedophile brother Brandon, fully knowing what he was doing and to this day, continues to direct JTK fans to him. He has recently threatened to take the victim to court over "lies"
-How Jeff downplayed the actions of an incident involving his brother, in which he violently attacked two of his cousins. Before and after the incident, Brandon had showcased a history of violence and owns firearms.
-Brandon's autistic fixation with the North Hollywood shootout to the point where he has cosplayed one of the atackers and tried to make a shitty video game based off the event
-Brandon's fixation with cults and extremists, even including a lengthy and disturbing manifesto regarding his thoughts
-Jeff and Brandon's severe drug addiction, which has been potentially funded by copyright fraud related to the Jeff The Killer image, whose author is currently unknown. Jeff has many times falsely (and poorly) claimed to be the creator of the image and has gone as far as to make merchandise (such as costumes) of it and even sold the rights (including the visual depictions) to different companies

Guess he never did grow out of that edgy phase, huh?

 

[The Strongest Haaton]

I'm a pretty casual Wendigoon fan who only watches the main channel. I tend to skip ones about analog horror or ones about online stories like that. But I really enjoyed his iceberg videos, the Sunday Studies ones (miss these like you wouldn't believe), and some other miscellaneous topics he's covered. I hope he does another iceberg soon. Judging by all the other channels and stuff he has that you guys have been talking about, I guess I can see why he does icebergs sparingly because of time commitments.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

So Sesseur responded to the document by phonebooking the victim, according to an update in it. Post here: https://archive.is/WiUEf
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The dude who wrote Jeff The Killer has decided his best tactical maneuver was to dox the girl who accused him and threaten her with rape.
Everything’s about rape these days, isn’t it?

 

[Curious Lurker]

Just finished the last episode and god, Borrasca V was so fucking bad, jesus christ. This and Deepwood proves this reddit author is such a hack, i don't care this was made in 24 hours.

Seeing Wendi and Hunter gradually losing patience with the story and mocking it in the end was carthartic

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

Saw this pic on reddit and had to add my shitty caption work to it. The artist was even kind enough to leave spaces at the top and bottom for captioning

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

You could even still have the 'epic' confrontation at the end, have Sam's dad as one of those who refused to leave, he still has a handful of girls, even just one, in the 'stables'. Rather than a supervillain he's just an impotent rapist finally getting what's coming for him, and Sam finally saves a girl to ease his guilt from not being able to save Whitney.

Spoiler alert for what I think is one of the best indie games I've ever played, LISA: The Painful.
That is exactly what happens in that game. The main character confronts his horribly abusive father after a long time of absence, and he's just an impotent old man who gets what was coming to him in a truly brutal manner. It turned what normally would be satisfying into something deeply human and deeply frightening.
A similar thing happens in Fire Punch, and when it's written well it can be an astounding moment in a story.

 

[Rick The Stick]

I really enjoy how the heroin junky is able to just quit cold turkey and not fucking die. I can't get over it.
Sam just detoxes in a shitty hotel for a week and it's all good. And the extent of this life threatening detox method amounted to "I'm gonna feel cold and be an asshole and sick for a few days".
And for some reason kimber ends up stripped to her undies and is cuddling him in bed (same girl who was sex trafficked by his father that he's the sputting image of, who recoiled in disgust every other time they touched) while he's presumably shitting himself and vomiting and deliriously hurling verbal (potentially physical if you've ever known junkies on withdrawl) abuse at her in a 90+ degree hotel room.

Also the fact that he somehow hadn't OD'd in the years before this. Seems like Sam is the kinda junky that would have died pretty early on into his addiction considering he was using purely to cope with major trauma. Those types tend to go hard immediately and die soon after.