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Honestly, it might be for the best they focus on the rape, else they might focus on the baby instead and get real lost in the weeds of the pro-life/pro-abortion debate.
I remember back when the game was new there was an artist that made an artpiece of Anya losing her baby and visiting it's gravestone.

Twitter... did not react well.

Apparently people that are the product of sexual assault are subhumans with zero intrinsic value and the only correct emotional response is to slam-dunk the fetus into a garbage can and hit the griddy. Because as we all know, no woman has ever had an emotional connection with their child that was the product of abuse, that just isn't real.

The entire discussion devolving into being about the rape at the expense of the games exploration of it's characters and the concept of taking responsibility does a genuine disservice to the writing of this game. The amount of effort put into it does not deserve to be boiled down to "yeah so Jimmy loves RAPIN, isn't that so fucked up dood?"
 
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The at this point cliche of South Park fujos spending hundreds of hours drawing 4th grade boys kissing each other and then being scandalized by actual dialogue from the show being toxic and problematic because they’ve barely ever watched it.
I've seen posts of them getting shocked and horrified...over characters saying "fuck" casually.
 
I remember back when the game was new there was an artist that made an artpiece of Anya losing her baby and visiting it's gravestone.
Same guy that made this image, as well.
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Reviving Mouthwashing discourse for no satisfactory reason.
>Implying it ever went away.
It was brought back to the forefront over the Nendroid announcement, but it never left us. God is not that merciful.
 
To be fair, FNAF is over 10 years old and is a proper franchise, so there is a lot more going on than just purple guy.
True. However this behavior I mentioned started with game 2 actually when we got introduced to Afton. It might have gotten better with more releases but I remember the retardation ramping up at the second game.
 
Journal of an Unknown Soldier | Creep Cast
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7WHpMRu6DRc
In which Wendigoon creams his pants over a story obviously made to appeal to him. Otherwise, it's aping Blood Meridian just as Dagon's Mirror aped Lovecraft—but with, like, a big owl instead of a tall white guy.

Incidentally, reports from the subreddit say in the live show they read stories Isaiah and Hunter wrote, when they were younger I think, plus a fan story.
 
I just never got how mouth washing got such a rabid fan base. There's zero real depth to the narrative once you finally have the whole picture and piece together the chronology of the events. It's a nice character piece but I honestly think it would've worked a lot better as a short story or novella or even a mini series than a video game. Alot of the "gameplay" elements in it end up just being tedious or break the pacing of the story. (That ghost horse segment in the hold was mind numbing) They could have done away with it and I think the narrative would be a lot tighter.

It's just not that interesting of a game I would've forgotten about it completely by now if not for the Internet. I honestly just don't get it. It surely can't be just the rape implication surely? Are we that bad that the only that a thing needs to be put into the zeitgeist is implied rape? I'm honestly at a loss.
 
One thing I don't get about mouthwashing is why it's even a game. Could've been made as an animated series and your interaction with it would barely change.
 
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One thing I don't get about mouthwashing is why it's even a game. Could've been made as an animated series and your interaction with it would barely change.
I guess it's kinda the same thing with Gregory Horror Show. Sure you can just watch it as a series, but being able to directly interact with it as a game has it's own appeal.

In the big 2025 I assume more people would play 4 hours of a retro-style game than watch 4 hours of a retro-style game.
 
Went ahead and read the story on my own since I couldn't take Wendigoon smacking his lips while gobbling the writer's dick.

The heavy metaphors at the start were eyerolling for me, especially for some random dude from the military who turned cut throat, but as the story picked up with the raid I quite enjoyed it. I kept enjoying it until EXPOSITION DUMP NAVAJO MAN. That was lame and handled poorly. Then the ending doesn't make sense to me because in this author's final moments he decided to write more of his journal. I understand the "Well how else would we the reader get the journal?" IDK maybe write it better?

The guy who wrote the story definitely has potential, but I fear with the glaze of Wendigoon he'll fall off.
 
It surely can't be just the rape implication surely? Are we that bad that the only that a thing needs to be put into the zeitgeist is implied rape? I'm honestly at a loss.
I surely hope not, but it is an interesting question. Something something muh media literacy.

There is a little-known Japanese freeware puzzle horror game called Misao that also has rape in it, though it wasn't in your face about it. Now, I didn't play it for that, but I do enjoy the game (highly recommend), and people were never stupid about it, despite how much of a "comfort character" Misao would be for some people.

But in Misao's case, it was also released in 2011, albeit it got rereleased years later on Steam.

Japanese horror games or RPG Maker horror aren't really something in Wendi's wheelhouse, though. On one hand, hearing him discuss the game would be interesting, but on the other, I sort of don't want him to be brain-dead about it.
 
Went ahead and read the story on my own since I couldn't take Wendigoon smacking his lips while gobbling the writer's dick.

The heavy metaphors at the start were eyerolling for me, especially for some random dude from the military who turned cut throat, but as the story picked up with the raid I quite enjoyed it. I kept enjoying it until EXPOSITION DUMP NAVAJO MAN. That was lame and handled poorly. Then the ending doesn't make sense to me because in this author's final moments he decided to write more of his journal. I understand the "Well how else would we the reader get the journal?" IDK maybe write it better?

The guy who wrote the story definitely has potential, but I fear with the glaze of Wendigoon he'll fall off.
I think his grasp of English is pretty good, and as a story it was alright (it didn’t overstay its welcome, which is a perennial issue with “modern” creepypasta). You’re definitely correct that it follows its inspiration too closely, but I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing - at least as a writing exercise.
 
Evil Cromac headhunters rape an Injun(make sure to bleep that guys it's le heckin slur) witch who was herself a child killer and a cannibal(but we're still supposed to feel more bad for her regardless) and some random medicine man expo dumps. Neat thanks, I hate it. Blood Meridian is better. Like it was written well enough but wtf. Even George Lucas hides his influences better and he wears them on his sleeve, figure that out. Take out the mysticism and it's just Shmlood Shmleridian.

I also looked up some clips of Bone Tomahawk when Hunter mentioned it and goddamn. How'd they get away making the noble savages look like that? I assume they dressed it up in some woo-woo mythology so the True and Honest NATIVES didn't get linked to the nightmare fuel cannibals. Might have to give it a watch. I like Kurt Russel.

I greatly enjoyed Hunter shitting on Goon for hyping the story up immediately, and then random lowblow about being inbred :story:
 
I also looked up some clips of Bone Tomahawk when Hunter mentioned it and goddamn. How'd they get away making the noble savages look like that? I assume they dressed it up in some woo-woo mythology so the True and Honest NATIVES didn't get linked to the nightmare fuel cannibals. Might have to give it a watch. I like Kurt Russel.
Oh, shit, you should get on S. Craig Zahler yesterday. His movies are insanely right wing coded. There's Bone Tomahawk, yes, but there's also Dragged Across Concrete which is all about how Blacks be stealing and how not being PC will get you unpersoned. Also Brawl in Cellblock 99 which is just Vince Vaughn killing gangbangers in prison to save his wife and unborn child.
 
I assume they dressed it up in some woo-woo mythology so the True and Honest NATIVES didn't get linked to the nightmare fuel cannibals. Might have to give it a watch. I like Kurt Russel.
All three statements are correct, but IIRC the backstory was one of the local Indians explaining "yeah no we don't go there; there are cannibals."
 
Slowly inching through the video, in retrospect I just have no idea how the fuck Anya is supposed to be written. You'd think that a rapist/abuser would get more of a rise out of her, but she treats Jimmy more of an uncomfortable coworker than someone she actively fears.
If you wanna get autistic about it, you could make the argument that it's a self-preservation method. Better to be compliant and pretend nothing is wrong than risk Jimmy doing something fucked up because you're stuck with him for months on end, because what else can you do?

On the flipside, I had zero idea that there even was any sort of rape history between them. Anya, at first glance, just seems like a very dour person who's just super depressed, neurotic, and messy naturally. Considering she failed med school 8 fucking times, it's likely.
 
but she treats Jimmy more of an uncomfortable coworker than someone she actively fears.
Because the story is written as a #metoo story about workplace harassment/assault. Jimmy is the toxic coworker using his authority and friendship with upper management (curly) to get away with his abuse while Anya is the quiet low level employee who needs the job but feels she can't address her problems with upper management because her abuser is is friends with them, so she is forced to suffer in silence and just carry on until the pregnancy complicated things.

Also I was thinking on the theme of responsibly in the game. Was Anya's responsibly speaking up? She did like and respect Curly even if he was friends with Jimmy and she also had Swansea who isn't a fan of Jimmy either and the intern who is portrayed as super nice and seems like the kinda guy to white knight for her. She had lots of options for help but didn't take any of them, instead she drops the pregnancy news on Jimmy and causes his freak out and dooms the whole crew.

On the flipside, I had zero idea that there even was any sort of rape history between them. Anya, at first glance, just seems like a very dour person who's just super depressed, neurotic, and messy naturally. Considering she failed med school 8 fucking times, it's likely.
That's the point, people being abused but don't talk about it usually exhibit a sudden change of attatude, but we don't see how she was before so she just comes off as a natural downer and that "hint" doesn't really register. Given the extreme situation they are in, how small the crew is, and how she is in frequent contact with Jimmy due to her job, small ship, and the fact he is acting captain she is taking things remarkably well all things considered when she should be an absolute wreck.
 
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