Were incels avoidable?

my point originally was that like, people had plenty of time to think and "contemplate" back in the olden days. unless you are incapable of deep thinking while you work, perhaps? it's ok you're among friends we won't make fun of you
in fact, they didn't have fuck all else to do, since most of them couldn't read and shit.

meanwhile you can't give me one measly example, cause you're addicted to xbox and mtv and skateboards and whatnot.
 
I've never seen anyone who actually calls themselves an incel who isn't either that or worse. Someone who just hasn't had sex is a virgin, and could be that for any number of reasons from religious to other. And not everyone who hasn't gotten laid but wants to is a completely bitter homicidal loser advocating rape and child molestation.
Incel & virgin as descriptors are synonymous so I don't see the point in differentiating them. Society says if you don't fuck you will be declared a pariah. Clearly there is something wrong with you. No it cannot be fixed & we will remind you of that inherent worthlessness at every opportunity. We will use it to discredit all thoughts or feelings you may ever have on the matter or any matter. Also if this drives you crazy it's your fault. tl;dr every nation gets the incel caste it deserves. Expect a drastic increase in violence & rape over time.
 
The incel label is the logical evolution of the virgin label. Both are the same thing: you don't have sex because something is wrong with you. Insisting a stupid trend will somehow magically stay confined to the internet in the year 2022 is so fagtarded I'm not even going to give you a sticker.
 
I will start off by saying what I always say about "incels". There is no such thing as an incel. The only determining factor in getting laid is you. Nothing is stopping you from getting sex except you. It's a self-inflicted problem. This goes for the female version as well.

Now let's look at the origin of the term incel. It is an insult used by leftists to suppress anything males might have to say about feminism and modern-day women. Specifically white males. Calling yourself an incel is cringey. Especially since most of these guys calling themselves incels are in their 20's and 30's. I have yet to see any Gen X people call themselves incels. It seems to be a Millennial and Gen Z thing. But keep in mind they are a small number. But people, especially the left make it seem like there are more incels than there are. This isn't helped by the fact that these incel types tend to make a lot of noise. By that I mean they are constantly whining. Where a normal guy doesn't, even if he isn't getting laid. Normal guys have hobbies, they masturbate to porn and some will go out and basically have sex with any woman they can find, even if they have to pay for it.

These incel types don't do that. They sit around online whining raging and seething incessantly about their lack of sex and whatever they believe is the cause of it. Usually, it's multiple things. Feminism being the most popular excuse but there are others. With some incel types they blame Jew and niggers. Black guys took all the white women. They also blame what they call "chads" with things like chads took all my Stacey's. I have even heard retarded shit like OnlyFans took all the women. Though only 3% of the female population gets involved in the sex industry. Another popular one is that 80-90% of women are going to the top 20% of men which isn't true at all. Incels don't seem to think about these excuses before they start spouting them or they aren't very smart. I suspect it's a combination of both. They say things that are often contradictory. Like all women are sluts. So, if all women are sluts then why are you claiming you can't get laid?

I don't think being shy is their problem. Even the most shy guys eventually get sex. Maybe they encounter a socially aggressive female or they find one they are comfortable with. The first possibility is poor hygiene. Considering some of the guys I have seen some women with some of these incel types must have horrendously poor hygiene. I mean really bad. I am sure everyone has heard the stories about the smelly people at conventions and so on. Everyone knows that joke. They might also be unattractive but again considering some of the guys I have seen with girlfriends they would have to be Quasimodo levels of ugly. But combine poor hygiene with not being that good looking and I can see it hurting their chances with the opposite sex. I think the biggest issue is their behavior though. From what I have seen from these people calling themselves incels tells me these aren't very nice people. They have a lot of attitude problems and are just all around not very nice. With talk of locking women in cages beating and raping women. They just seem to be very negative people and they also seem to have a real hatred for women. Not just the women they had problems with, but it seems to be women in general.

Another reason is they have their standards set way too high. this applies as well to those women you see in those incel and MGTOW videos on YouTube whining about how they are X age and still single or they have been single for X number of years. I think a lot of these people have their standards set way too high and they have unrealistic expectations for what can be found in the modern world. For both incels and the female equivalent I believe many of them just choose terrible people to form relationships with. In the incel and MGTOW videos the incels usually go on and on about how these women were with Chads and Tyrones (the black equivalent of a Chad) and the Chads and Tyrones dumped them for other women. That they should choose the average regular guys. This a very good point. But the same applies for the incels. They should stop chasing after certain women and just go for the average woman. I think some of the incel types are a product of bad choices when it comes to women. Like some women like the bad boys there are men who are drawn to bad girls or troubled women. They had some bad experiences with women, and they have now blame all women for that and have developed bad attitudes and ways of thinking because of it. Instead of finding a way to recover and move on they let this take over their lives.


Do I think incels are avoidable? No. But what they can do is engage in some self-improvement. develop a personal hygiene routine. Learn to socialize with women. Get used to talking to them. Get some better clothes or dress better. I don't mean $1,000 suits but if you spend your time looking like a slob it isn't going to help. Don't walk around in clothes with stains and that sort of thing. Lose some weight would be a good way. Like I said above learn to compromise and get used to the fact that you have may just have to settle for someone like the rest of the population. Make better choices in the women you choose to try and have a relationship with.

You could also just ignore all of that and just keep going down the path you are on. No one really cares. Just stop whining. As usual this applies to incels and the female equivalent. No one wants to hear or see you whining raging and seething all the time. It's a major turnoff.

This all applies to incels and the female equivalent.

Incels: All women are sluts now

Also incels: QQ can't get laid forever alone

Incels: Lets beat and rape all the women

Also incels: I can't get laid.

Gee, I wonder why. lol
 
No, but conflicts were a hell of a lot more common before the World Wars. And even without the warfare, life in general was just shittier for the average joe/jane citizen. You didn't get to live long enough to actually contemplate issues like we do today, especially not when the vast majority of your time was spent working (usually farming).
The frequency of the major wars and their intensity has decreased. You must remember campaings lasted longer because winter was basically the end of the fighting season, and sustained logistics (and sustained treasury printing like today) were not really a thing.
Only if you're a retard. And if you are maybe we really should rev up Aktion T4 again to get rid of you wastes of oxygen.
AnOminous likes to be on bottom and I would not wrestle his ass.
Literally no one irl outside of retarded fundies, and tradfags gives a shit if you're a virgin.
I'd argue the majority of society still sees it as a bad thing for men.
Honestly I don't care if dude's a virgin or not unless they're going out raping children or murdering me. Even then I'm still going to care indefinitely more on the "this nigga trying to kill me" than the "he's a virgin"! I don't really care if you either bang women faster than rockstars bang 10 gram rocks or you wanna lock yourself up in a room and cry.

I will judge someone who cries about not getting women when they are fat and a slob (If you were born disfigured I can sympathize). Wings has a fucking wife so....
Hell, DSP has a wife technically.
 
While I'm sure there have always been guys who couldn't get laid and are mad about it for all eternity -- the modern problem, where they all pile into online hugboxes and come up with scientific theories on why they're unfuckable and what-not is totally an internet thing.
Its not a character flaw to be a little frustrated that you can't find someone to give you a kiss and touch peepee's with. Being frustrated about that is normal, but hyper-fixating on it and basing communities over the issue is probably not healthy.

That being said, I personally picture an Elliot Roger type when I think "Incel." A good-natured ugly guy will eventually get laid on his own merits unless he's not a complete fuck up.

I assume most incels are Teens-Early Twenties, and when I look back at being that young, and the men I knew: Some guys are very very wrapped up in "Success" and the things that project "success," and that also included the kind of partner they should have. Because we're talking about young men, that was predominately based in shallow things and I think guys who get stuck in the incel-hole are wrapped up in that too.
Now that I am older, people's tastes changed. I know guys who married women I'd not believe they'd choose when we were younger because thats what getting older does -- you reprioritize and you change your definition of success sometimes.
Edit: Forgot to add: I feel like incels get stuck in their ideas of SUCCESS milestones and just completely fixated on the Partner, and like stick themselves in a hole and become monsters.
 
It baffles me how blind incels are to how extreme their projection is regarding attractiveness. Its so extreme I sometimes wonder if these blokes have some kind of personality disorder. It’s completely crazy to be this obsessed with the idea that it’s women who are the shallow ones when about 90% of their schtick is about critiquing women’s appearance to the extent they do. Let’s not beat around the bush, everyone knows it is women who are the ones who suffer far more from having the entire sum of their value attributed to their looks. Of course it happens to men too but it is so removed from reality and tone deaf. They’re like the guy who walks into a discussion about female genital mutilation to claim circumcision is on the same level.

They are incapable of seeing how stupid they sound to complain women are shallow and in the very next breath say she had no right to reject him because she didn’t meet model standards.

You gotta admit they do provide a lot of entertainment though. The nitpicking makes for a great deal of milk. I love seeing them in their delusion tear apart famous women for having big feet or an outie bellybutton or something equally innocuous. i hope incels never go away because their tantrums are so entertaining,
 
While I'm sure there have always been guys who couldn't get laid and are mad about it for all eternity -- the modern problem, where they all pile into online hugboxes and come up with scientific theories on why they're unfuckable and what-not is totally an internet thing.
Its not a character flaw to be a little frustrated that you can't find someone to give you a kiss and touch peepee's with. Being frustrated about that is normal, but hyper-fixating on it and basing communities over the issue is probably not healthy.

That being said, I personally picture an Elliot Roger type when I think "Incel." A good-natured ugly guy will eventually get laid on his own merits unless he's not a complete fuck up.

I assume most incels are Teens-Early Twenties, and when I look back at being that young, and the men I knew: Some guys are very very wrapped up in "Success" and the things that project "success," and that also included the kind of partner they should have. Because we're talking about young men, that was predominately based in shallow things and I think guys who get stuck in the incel-hole are wrapped up in that too.
Now that I am older, people's tastes changed. I know guys who married women I'd not believe they'd choose when we were younger because thats what getting older does -- you reprioritize and you change your definition of success sometimes.
Edit: Forgot to add: I feel like incels get stuck in their ideas of SUCCESS milestones and just completely fixated on the Partner, and like stick themselves in a hole and become monsters.
No, try 20's and 30's. I know because I have been on forums with guys calling themselves incels and they were in their 20's and 30's. Go watch the incel and "MGTOW" videos on YouTube which are just incel videos because incels hijacked the term MGTOW years ago. You will notice that they sound like guys in their 20's 30's and possibly 40's.
 
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I think as society has modernised its led to a greater choice in the dating pool. For most of history you only really had your immediate surroundings. You had maybe 3-4 villages to pick from so standards were a lot lower. If you were rich/noble that was usually enough to get laid as most people lived in relative poverty. Now the dating pool is a lot wider. You can realistically meet anyone from anywhere at any time. Ultimately that leaves a certain amount of people to fall lower and lower down the sexual pecking order. I still think the majority of incels can get laid but theres usually other factors preventing it.
 
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Another funny thing I noticed about incels is a lot of them seem to be racist and hate niggers but they use a lot of nigger street slang. Like THOT and captain save a ho. It's really stupid.

I think as society has modernised its led to a greater choice in the dating pool. For most of history you only really had your immediate surroundings. You had maybe 3-4 villages to pick from so standards were a lot lower. If you were rich/noble that was usually enough to get laid as most people lived in relative poverty. Now the dating pool is a lot wider. You can realistically meet anyone from anywhere at any time. Ultimately that leaves a certain amount of people to fall lower and lower down the sexual pecking order. I still think the majority of incels can get laid but theres usually other factors preventing it.
While the ability to meet more people has increased thanks to the ease of travel. The number of places you have to meet people is shrinking. Bars and clubs are not a good place to meet people. Unless you are looking for casual sex or one night stands as the Boomers called it. I think Millennials called it "hooking up". All you are going to find in those places is drama and disease.

With people complaining about how you can't hit on people in grocery stores and so on. Which is dumb because you can do it anywhere. Young people used to go to malls and socialize but all the malls are closed closing or dead. That's just one less social gathering spot for people outside bars and clubs. I don't think Tinder had helped by turning everyone into a picture.
 
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No, they're not remotely. Incel specifically means "involuntary celibate." Not all incels are even virgins. That's retarded.
If they aren't virgins, then I imagine they know what they need to do to get sex so they can just do it again. While not all incels might not be virgins I imagine many of them are.
 
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