Were incels avoidable?

[Don't Tread on Me]

I don't want to sound patronising, but are there any social type places you can go in your town or are you just insulated among your family? Outside of work I mean. Any bars at least? Or swimming pools, fuck I don't know paintball? I think you need to live a bit more out in the world mate, it would do you good.

Are you trying to get me banned for power leveling or something?

At this point, no. I tried making friends a few times and each time I ended up driving people off. I am entirely insulated and really my family only tolerates me out of pity.

 

[Stabmaster Arson II]

At this point, no. I tried making friends a few times and each time I ended up driving people off. I am entirely insulated and really my family only tolerates me out of pity.

Ever think maybe the problem is you?

 

[Bunny Tracks]

He does know and it makes him cringe and he chastises me every time I bring it up, but he respects me enough to have a discussion about things he disagrees with. We don't talk about women too much though, too busy dealing with my grandmother's health and work and other things in life.

And whose fault is that, exactly? You act as though I haven't been wronged by women. I notice you went out of your way to ask me if my mother had left and then when I said she had you didn't have any follow-up.

So, you know he wouldn't be happy with you being like this? What about your grandmother? I know you said you don't mind the women in your family outside your mother, and stepmother, but holy shit, imagine finding out your grandson is a rape apologist.

I'm not saying you haven't been wronged by women, but it's not like every woman in the entire world hurt you. I'd say the same thing if this the genders were reversed too.

I don't want to sound patronising, but are there any social type places you can go in your town or are you just insulated among your family? Outside of work I mean. Any bars at least? Or swimming pools, fuck I don't know paintball? I think you need to live a bit more out in the world mate, it would do you good.

He likes Yugioh. Maybe there's a local game shop that holds tournaments, or whatever, and he could meet someone there?

Yeah, I know it's a stretch, but it'd be something. They'd even have something in common. Not that that would actually matter to him, though.

 

[based.1488]

Incels are considered freak by nature and there little that can be changed. Incels is 50% genetics and 50% caused my modern feminism.

 

[Just A Butt]

post cum carpet

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

Ever think maybe the problem is you?

Oh, most certainly, I have plenty of issues. That doesn't mean that women aren't also disgusting, disloyal, materialist cunts.

But this is who I am. I can't be anyone else. I already hide my true nature when I'm at work, why the hell would I want to hide it when I'm out of work? If I have to lie to make friends, then when they find out the truth they will just not accept it. What benefit is there to trying to make fake friendships?

So, you know he wouldn't be happy with you being like this? What about your grandmother? I know you said you don't mind the women in your family outside your mother, and stepmother, but holy shit, imagine finding out your grandson is a rape apologist.

I'm not saying you haven't been wronged by women, but it's not like every woman in the entire world hurt you. I'd say the same thing if this the genders were reversed too.

Hah, my grandmother thinks I'm a Democrat and I'll let her think that until her grave. Poor woman. I've had it up to here with her talking about how important it is to defend women's rights to kill their kids, but I just smile and let her talk. I'm happy to let her enjoy her last years with me as best she can.

He likes Yugioh. Maybe there's a local game shop that holds tournaments, or whatever, and he could meet someone there?

Yeah, I know it's a stretch, but it'd be something. They'd even have something in common. Not that that would actually matter to him, though.

I'm not going to waste money on paper cards and maintaining them, all the Yugioh I play is digital.

 

[Just A Butt]

I would rather just raise a child on my own.

you won't have to worry about this because you will never have sex

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

you won't have to worry about this because you will never have sex

Thankfully I got a job at a company that helps you pay to adopt kids and even gives you paid leave to settle in to a new family when you adopt.

 

[Just A Butt]

so are you like a diddler or something?
why do you want to fiddle with kids so bad?

 

[Stabmaster Arson II]

If I have to lie to make friends, then when they find out the truth they will just not accept it. What benefit is there to trying to make fake friendships?

Now you've said you're not used to friendships, so I'm going to blow your mind here.

Not all friends agree on all things. You can have friends who disagree about certain things. I have subjects that my friends know not to bring up, because we discussed them and disagreed, like the Jews. Especially my Jewish friends lol. Even views others can find heinous, sprinkle a little comedy on it and don't be so serious and you can get out of it and go back to talking about something you both like.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

Now you've said you're not used to friendships, so I'm going to blow your mind here.

Not all friends agree on all things. You can have friends who disagree about certain things. I have subjects that my friends know not to bring up, because we discussed them and disagreed, like the Jews.Especially my Jewish friends lol. Even views others can fund heinous, sprinkle a little comedy on it and don't be so serious and you can get out of it and go back to talking about something you both like.

I can avoid certain subjects, but I can't hide how much of an asshole I am. That's just my default nature lol. Doesn't matter what I'm talking about, I always sound like a prick because I am a prick, and people think it's insufferable.

 

[Just A Butt]

answer me, damnit

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Hah, my grandmother thinks I'm a Democrat and I'll let her think that until her grave. Poor woman. I've had it up to here with her talking about how important it is to defend women's rights to kill their kids, but I just smile and let her talk. I'm happy to let her enjoy her last years with me as best she can.

Okay, now you're just sounding like a cartoon villain, dude. You do seem to like your grandmother enough to be nice to her, though. Why? Was she nice to you growing up?

I'm not going to waste money on paper cards and maintaining them, all the Yugioh I play is digital.

Same tbh. I used to play irl, but that was years ago. I just play Duel Links, and Master Duel now. What archetypes do you main? I use Infernity, and Darklords.

Anyways, what do you actually do for fun then? You know, outside Yugioh.

Thankfully I got a job at a company that helps you pay to adopt kids and even gives you paid leave to settle in to a new family when you adopt.

What place would even let you adopt, though? Forget the job, adoption agencies usually don't give kids to single men, let alone ones like you.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

As far as what I think actually constitutes an "involuntary celibate", I think of someone like Elliot Roger. He had the looks, he had money and status (which incels worship), but not even that was enough to compensate for the fact that he was an entitled little shithead who didn't know how to treat other people. He wanted a woman as a status symbol, not as a partner or even easy sex. For him (and actual incels), not being married or in a relationship with a woman is seen as a "fail state" in their lives. For them, I think, it's the simple state of being a "boyfriend" or "husband" to a woman that they're chasing, mixed in with some sexual frustration. And when they can't get their deserved! status symbol wife/girlfriend, they lash out at the people around them and Society(TM) for not giving it to them.

For sure, that's generally my idea of what an "incel" is, although that's also what I mean about it not truly being about sex. He had the money to pay for a prostitute, but he didn't. So if incels' problem is literally just that they can't get laid that would make no sense. If a prostitute isn't good enough, then it isn't purely about sex, so what's it about and why does anyone bother to make their dry dick the focal point?

So I guess that's my point in respect to the thread, is that there's a confusion in terminology here.
People who cannot obtain sex might be avoidable, but "incels" in the sense we're talking about here probably aren't because their problems have very little to do with sex. It's usually more about stuff like self image issues and lack of role fulfillment.

Not that that would actually matter to him, though.

Eh, he just sounds bitter. Weird thing is that he's complaining about women but he reminds me a lot of the feminist types who endlessly go on about how awful men are, and yet the second they meet one who's even somewhat affectionate towards them they're immediately smitten.

I like dishing on women as much as the next guy but when you interact with the ones who really care about you even when it seems like it doesn't make any sense, there's no way you can hate them.

Thankfully I got a job at a company that helps you pay to adopt kids and even gives you paid leave to settle in to a new family when you adopt.

Maybe I'm ignorant here, but no adoption agency I've ever heard of would adopt a kid out to a single male. I don't think they do to single people in general.

PS: this is looking like it's ready to get split off into a debate thread.

 

[Just A Butt]

split off into a debate thread.

not everything has to be a new thread

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

Okay, now you're just sounding like a cartoon villain, dude. You do seem to like your grandmother enough to be nice to her, though. Why? Was she nice to you growing up?

Nice? I don't know. About as nice as someone could be when you only see them once a year. But she's family. That's all that matters. Hell, I even make an effort to have a civil relationship with my mother, even though she literally makes me so angry that I actually crashed my car just thinking about going to visit her in person again after she asked me to earlier this year.

Same tbh. I used to play irl, but that was years ago. I just play Duel Links, and Master Duel now. What archetypes do you main? I use Infernity, and Darklords.

I don't really have a specific deck that I stick with, I play a little bit of everything. In Duel Links, I just got Paradox, so I was working on Malefics, and I have Phantom Knights, Dark Magician, Gimmick Puppets, Abyss Actors, Superheavy Samurai, Harpies, Sharks, Gouki, World Chalice, Code Talkers, Salamangreats, etc.

In Master Duel I mostly focus on Tri-Brigade and Lyrilusc, though I don't really play MD.

Anyways, what do you actually do for fun then? You know, outside Yugioh.

Follow lolcows.

Is that a serious question? You do remember where you are, right?

What place would even let you adopt, though? Forget the job, adoption agencies usually don't give kids to single men, let alone ones like you.

I won't know until I try.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Nice? I don't know. About as nice as someone could be when you only see them once a year. But she's family. That's all that matters. Hell, I even make an effort to have a civil relationship with my mother, even though she literally makes me so angry that I actually crashed my car just thinking about going to visit her in person again after she asked me to earlier this year.

Well, that escalated quickly.

Were you hurt? Crashing your car can really fuck you up. How'd your family take it?

I don't really have a specific deck that I stick with, I play a little bit of everything. In Duel Links, I just got Paradox, so I was working on Malefics, and I have Phantom Knights, Dark Magician, Gimmick Puppets, Abyss Actors, Superheavy Samurai, Harpies, Sharks, Gouki, World Chalice, Code Talkers, Salamangreats, etc.

In Master Duel I mostly focus on Tri-Brigade and Lyrilusc, though I don't really play MD.

I prefer Infernity in Duel Links because the skills, deck size, combos, and lack of cards on the banlist actually make it pretty good, and easy to use so long as you don't brick.

I tend to branch off in Master Duel because there's just so much variety. I run mostly Darklord-Despia, and Swordsoul, though. I tried Traptrix, but I usually just bricked. I think I'm gonna hold off until the new support gets added, if ever actually is.

I don't really play MD that much either tbh. It's so fucking slow. The last event was absolute torture.

I won't know until I try.

Even then, I can't even think of a single place that would, even with the company benefits. You must make a lot of money then. That's the only way I can see you being allowed to adopt in your current situation.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

Well, that escalated quickly.

Were you hurt? Crashing your car can really fuck you up. How'd your family take it?

Nah, it wasn't a big deal. I sideswiped someone because I didn't completely change lanes before passing them. Completely destroyed my side mirror, but nothing else was hurt.

I prefer Infernity in Duel Links because the skills, deck size, combos and lack of cards on the banlist actually make it pretty good, and easy to use so long as you don't brick.

I tend to branch off in Master Duel because there's just so much variety. I run mostly Darklord-Despia, and Swordsoul, though. I tried Traptrix, but I usually just bricked. I think I'm gonna hold off until the new support gets added, if ever actually is.

I don't really play MD that much either tbh. It's so fucking slow. The last event was absolute torture.

It's pretty cool that they gave Kallin a voice line for Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier. The turn 1 combo that they've been pulling off lately where they use Puzzlomino the Drop-n-Deleter to combine Trishula with Coral Dragon for Stardust Warrior is pretty damn entertaining to watch.

Even then, I can't even think of a single place that would, even with the company benefits. You must make a lot of money then. That's the only way I can see you being allowed to adopt in your current situation.

Not at all. So I guess I'm just shit out of luck then.

 

[The Last Stand]

It is not about owning feminists. It is about protecting myself and my child from the woman who would steal from and then abandon us.

What woman would want to procreate with YOU? Like, cmon.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Nah, it wasn't a big deal. I sideswiped someone because I didn't completely change lanes before passing them. Completely destroyed my side mirror, but nothing else was hurt.

So it wasn't much of a crash just as brush, I guess? Well, that's good. I'm guessing you didn't go to your mom's, or anything, right?

It's pretty cool that they gave Kallin a voice line for Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier. The turn 1 combo that they've been pulling off lately where they use Puzzlomino the Drop-n-Deleter to combine Trishula with Coral Dragon for Stardust Warrior is pretty damn entertaining to watch.

Can we talk about how they blatantly kept in him saying he wanted to die? Like, Yami Marik can't say he's going to kill us, but Kalin can openly say he wants to neck himself? What the actual hell?

That's what got me to play Infernity in the first place. I never watched 5ds so when his Dark Signer self first rolled up I just thought he was some rando crazy henchman.

Then his emo gunslinger-reaper self showed up with a deck that's literally called "Please Help Me Suffer" and I'm was like what the actual fuck is happening lmao. I was just so baffled I decided to learn the archetype and found out it was really good in DL.

The Trishula line is really cool, though. I wish more characters had stuff like that. Mokuba was rumored to have a unique line for Shinato, but that was proven to be false. That really sucks imo because Noah would be perfect for a game like DL, considering it takes place in a virtual world.

Not at all. So I guess I'm just shit out of luck then.

So how do you plan on getting a kid then? Why do you even want one? I know you said the only goal for men nowadays is to reproduce, but why? Would having a kid even make you happy?