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the iron giant was pretty cool
oh god brad bird's gonna sign off on live action remake of it I can feel it

he was all in on incredibles 2
In assessing the state of animation 20 years on, Bird craves more daring originality and less sequels and remakes. “I would love to see studios have a more adventurous attitude,” he said. “We shouldn’t take this valuable time to repeat the same stories or with the same characters over and over again. That’s fine, and it has its place. Certainly, great films continue to be made with familiar characters. I’ve done two sequels [“Mission: Impossible — Ghost Protocol” and “Incredibles 2″]. But they should not be the preponderance of what makes up our diet. ‘Spider-Verse’ introduced a lot of really cool mix-and-match graphical styles in a really interesting way. The more we all do one kind of style, the less interesting it is for the audience. It needs to grow aesthetically. People will support it.”
 
>Established legacy cartoon IP gets a live-action/CGI film in the 2000s/early 2010s that’s critically panned but is considered a charming and funny cult-classic by people nostalgic for it.

>It gets a proper fully animated film in modern day with a seemingly faithful artstyle but it’s somehow WORSE then the live-action version in just being a bland, boring, unfunny generic kids movie.

Are there any good examples of this aside from this, Smurfs, and Garfield?
You forgot to include The Grinch.
 
>Established legacy cartoon IP gets a live-action/CGI film in the 2000s/early 2010s that’s critically panned but is considered a charming and funny cult-classic by people nostalgic for it.
Christ that's literally the Minecraft movie in 10 years, arguably happening now given the rate of meme culture.
 
Christ that's literally the Minecraft movie in 10 years, arguably happening now given the rate of meme culture.
Fuck, you're right.

Can you imagine the poz that will be unloaded in it? It will most likely be a retarded movie. If we had... unfortunate jokes in the current Minecraft movie, then imagine the future one.
 
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>Established legacy cartoon IP gets a live-action/CGI film in the 2000s/early 2010s that’s critically panned but is considered a charming and funny cult-classic by people nostalgic for it.

>It gets a proper fully animated film in modern day with a seemingly faithful artstyle but it’s somehow WORSE then the live-action version in just being a bland, boring, unfunny generic kids movie.

Are there any good examples of this aside from this, Smurfs, and Garfield?
Scooby Doo - The 00s Live Action adaptations have a cult following while Scoob from 2020 is painfully mediocre.

Does Space Jam count for this as it is pretty much this for Looney Tunes between the first and second.

Edit: Forgot to say Diary of a Wimpy Kid, the ultimate live action was better film, though that one was liked upon release.
 
Thoughts on this? I can tell from a glance it's probably thinly-veiled fujobait from a furry tranny, but at the same time, I like the artstyle and concept.
 
Christ that's literally the Minecraft movie in 10 years, arguably happening now given the rate of meme culture.
Considering the original owner of the IP was kicked out for having the wrong opinions, Minecraft will be pozzed in a future movie... If wokes still exist by then.
 
Thoughts on this? I can tell from a glance it's probably thinly-veiled fujobait from a furry tranny, but at the same time, I like the artstyle and concept.
Hm I was curious if this was by a gay furry or a pooner, and it seems like it's a gay furry.
“As a man, I was not allowed to have a female saint for my patron though I’ve always been really fascinated by Saint Teresa and she’s always had an interesting presence in my faith,” says Kugler, who wrote and directed the short.
So I guess "furfagbait" would be more accurate than fujobait. I agree the art style is very nice, it's just a shame it's anthro. Furries really are a plague on this earth.
 
Scooby Doo - The 00s Live Action adaptations have a cult following while Scoob from 2020 is painfully mediocre.

Does Space Jam count for this as it is pretty much this for Looney Tunes between the first and second.

Edit: Forgot to say Diary of a Wimpy Kid, the ultimate live action was better film, though that one was liked upon release.
Scoob is wild. I only saw it because I have small children, but I was a big fan of the older cartoons and particularly 13 Ghosts when I was younger. I feel like I accuse a lot of modern properties of this, but Scoob really is just a vehicle for a smart brown girlboss to shit on established white male characters. The entirety of what I remember about that movie is just idiot Shaggy, idiot Scooby, and idiot Blue Falcon, Jr. being lectured by a magical negro sidekick OC.

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Which one has the Butter Side Toast War?

Also I'm obligated by the above to post some of my favorite Dr. Seuss YTPs:
 
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