Western Animation - Discuss American, Canadian, and European cartoons here (or just bitch about wokeshit, I guess)

[ApearFruit]

Thoughts on this? I can tell from a glance it's probably thinly-veiled fujobait from a furry tranny, but at the same time, I like the artstyle and concept.

 

[I don't like goblins]

Jesus' fursona would very obviously be a lamb, not a bull. Retard furries.

 

[Coolio55]

I am once again asking you to watch Angel Hare.
I can't guarantee that the fandom has less gooners though.

 

[NoCockatrice]

Jesus' fursona would very obviously be a lamb, not a bull. Retard furries.

Making him a bull is rather ironic, because in the Bible there was a golden ox, which was considered a false object of worship. (Maybe it's meta commentary, idk. Lamb still would've been better)

it's probably thinly-veiled fujobait

Exactly how I felt about it when It popped up in my recommendations. What is it with fujos and romanticising Judas?

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Christ has also been likened to oxen, which is why a bull is close but no cigar.

What is it with fujos and romanticising Judas?

Literal brainrot. Mind you, Judas isn't such a bad guy that he couldn't be redeemed for what he did, but he's not supposed to be admired for it just because it needed to happen.

 

[NoCockatrice]

Judas isn't such a bad guy

The perspective on that also depends on whether you're a judaist or a christian.

Originally, in the Torah he wasn't a bad guy at all.

 

[Starscream's Loyalty]

Christ has also been likened to oxen, which is why a bull is close but no cigar.


Literal brainrot. Mind you, Judas isn't such a bad guy that he couldn't be redeemed for what he did, but he's not supposed to be admired for it just because it needed to happen.

Watch, they'll pussy out on Judas hanging himself.

Also, Christ has been linked to lions as well, but like others said, a lamb/ram would make much more sense. Though having Gibbons and crows as the Pharisees would be a clever visual touch

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

I've never watched this show (I might) but what a killer intro.

the Sat AM Robocop cartoon made before Robocop 2 was surprisingly close to the target for a kid's show with just the one movie developing things

 

[SoleniyKraut]

And why do they have to insist it always be about children?

This is also a point I always question.

My assumption is that it depends on upbringing and what information you acquired during that period. In the presented case - it may be longing for missed childhood experience or an attempt to make a demographic one targets to empathise with the message they sent (Likely former combined with the latter, as we all have observed that major company artists as of now are mentally ill political activists). Either case is not beneficial because it means one is sharing unnecessary information with their viewer through the art form.

Most likely it is also an appeal to a young audience which will in-turn beg their parents to buy tickets to a movie\merchendise\etc. This was probably obvious.

Spoiler: Powerlevel

I personally grew up on old books, which had very few child protagonists (I've read Tom Sawyer\ Huckleberry Finn and a few soviet books with child protagonists, but all others had children as supporting cast), even cartoons I watched as a kid usually had protagonists a bit older than me (Adventure Time was one case of it - I was younger than 13 in 2010, and Finn was actually the only MC I could identify with in some way in a cartoon, haha). Afterwards I couldn't really stand stories about JUST children, and either read ones with teenage-young adult protagonists, or with adults as the main cast. Perhaps the authors of modern cartoons just don't consume media suitbale for their age?

 

[invisibult plus+]

What is this shit about making "cartoons for paedophiles"? As we can see on the Cartoon Industry thread, plenty of artists talking about "children's butts" and all of them being sodomites.

One of the classic signs of a pedophile is that often they'll take jobs that give them access to children, or earn them trust. Traditionally those were roles like preachers and pastors, scout leaders, teachers, pediatricians, party clowns, etc. Maybe a lot of them are just going into animation since there's less of a disconnect between creators and viewers now?

I've noticed that toy stores in downtown areas have those rainbow/"progress pride" flags. Welcome mats, signs, or in the windows.

This is also a point I always question.

My assumption is that it depends on upbringing and what information you acquired during that period. In the presented case - it may be longing for missed childhood experience or an attempt to make a demographic one targets to empathise with the message they sent (Likely former combined with the latter, as we all have observed that major company artists as of now are mentally ill political activists). Either case is not beneficial because it means one is sharing unnecessary information with their viewer through the art form.

Most likely it is also an appeal to a young audience which will in-turn beg their parents to buy tickets to a movie\merchendise\etc. This was probably obvious.

Spoiler: Powerlevel

I personally grew up on old books, which had very few child protagonists (I've read Tom Sawyer\ Huckleberry Finn and a few soviet books with child protagonists, but all others had children as supporting cast), even cartoons I watched as a kid usually had protagonists a bit older than me (Adventure Time was one case of it - I was younger than 13 in 2010, and Finn was actually the only MC I could identify with in some way in a cartoon, haha). Afterwards I couldn't really stand stories about JUST children, and either read ones with teenage-young adult protagonists, or with adults as the main cast. Perhaps the authors of modern cartoons just don't consume media suitbale for their age?

Many of the books I read, and cartoons I watched, had child protagonists. People like Sugar and Molina are almost 40, and when they were growing up a lot of kid's media had a diverse cast of, well, kids. What made them think being a bunch of mentally ill activists is okay? Shows back then tried to talk about serious issues with diverse perspectives, both in personality and background. They talked about issues their target audiences actually dealt with (read: not sexuality or gender). The longing, these attempts to make target demographics for the message, is a combination of overcompensation and a belief that It's Their Turn to preach to kids. The one thing their childhood shows never talked about, is the one thing they became obsessed with.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

it may be longing for missed childhood experience

There is no such thing as a gay childhood experience.

 

[SoleniyKraut]

The longing, these attempts to make target demographics for the message, is a combination of overcompensation and a belief that It's Their Turn to preach to kids. The one thing their childhood shows never talked about, is the one thing they became obsessed with.

Good observation - I'd also add that they conflate their own morals with what they've been taught before ("PBS Kids isn't woke, you just grew up to be a bad person" type of thinking), therefore they get the self-assurance that what they do is "correct".

There is no such thing as a gay childhood experience.

Depends on what kind of adults you live with. That's kind of how gays even come to be - juvenile molestation.

 

[Colon capital V]

There is no such thing as a gay childhood experience.

Are you sure about that?

 

[The Mighty Banth]

What is it with fujos and romanticising Judas?

Maybe the suicide part?

 

[Arbiter]

Watched Kpop Demon Hunters. It was a fun time and refreshing. It wasn't anything crazy, but the fight scenes were nice and the music was catchy. It probably is even more enjoyable for people who actually like kpop. Sony keeps succeeding with the way they use 3D animation to convey 2D styles. I hope they keep innovating. I was very surprised to see an American Netflix movie in 2025 where:
- Every character is the same race (did not see a single non-Korean character, even in the crowd shots)
- There's no queer rep (the only thing I can think of was a quick shot of a girl with short hair leaning her head on another girl, but that could be totally platonic)
- There's straight romance/attraction between main characters
- All the main characters were skinny, conventionally attractive, and pale (only the comic relief manager was chubby)

 

[Trilby]

This is the sort of thing that only helps the Depatie-Freleng Suess specials from the 70s & 80s look better every year.

Even the one Marvel Productions made!

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

Disney’s “Elio” was pretty much a “checkbox list” movie that had nothing to do with kids or animation. I still don’t quite grasp what the point of releasing this movie, since I still don’t understand or get the plot.

 

[starborn427614]

Disney’s “Elio” was pretty much a “checkbox list” movie that had nothing to do with kids or animation. I still don’t quite grasp what the point of releasing this movie, since I still don’t understand or get the plot.

Summer movie, I guess. Too bad Lilo and Stitch ate its lunch.

 

[biglurker]

Disney’s “Elio” was pretty much a “checkbox list” movie that had nothing to do with kids or animation. I still don’t quite grasp what the point of releasing this movie, since I still don’t understand or get the plot.

Sunken cost and nepotism is why it was released.

 

[Scientifically Inaccurate]

I remember part of the old story advertised with Elio before the rewrites was that Earth was on trial for something. I heard that and immediately figured it would be preachy and unpleasant.

Knowing what we know now about the gay director and it being another self insert film, yeah, I can only imagine how obnoxious and preachy it was.