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[Siryakko212]

Oh, would you look at that, a new trailer for the Animaniacs reboot has dropped. I think this has some potenti—
>there’s a caricature of Donald Trump
Well, there’s a chance it might not be him, right? I mean, it’s possible they could make it wor—
>”Never mansplain-y”
Yeah, this is gonna fucking suck.

I never noticed the "Never mansplain-y" part until you said something. I still don't know what that even means. It doesn't even make any sense.

As for this trailer, its okay? I am honestly not that excited about it like I should be. When I was in high school I was obsessed with Animaniacs. If you were to tell me there would be a reboot, I would have called you a liar. Also if they are going to do political jokes, could they at least poke fun of every politician including Joe Biden. I think that seems fair, then again this is Hollyweird were talking about. That would be just wishful thinking at this point.


On another note, I've noticed that these Hanna-Barbera characters popped up for a brief second

Is there going to be a potential Animaniacs/Hanna-Barbera crossover? Does this mean we get to see other characters here later on? This part really struck out to me out of all the other, I am not sure why.

 

[Private Pyle]

Is there going to be a potential Animaniacs/Hanna-Barbera crossover? Does this mean we get to see other characters here later on? This part really struck out to me out of all the other, I am not sure why.

If I had to guess, it might be because outside of celebrities, they used thinly veiled versions for parodies. Yet here the HB characters are with on point, very recognizable designs.
Even weirder is that the new Hanna Barbera show, Jellystone, is airing on HBO Max, not Hulu.

 

[Emperor Pilaf]

The trailer for the Animaniacs Revival is a mixed bag but I will ask again why was Slappy cut out again?

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

The trailer for the Animaniacs Revival is a mixed bag but I will ask again why was Slappy cut out again?

She was voiced by an original writer. None of them are involved.

If I had to guess, it might be because outside of celebrities, they used thinly veiled versions for parodies. Yet here the HB characters are with on point, very recognizable designs.
Even weirder is that the new Hanna Barbera show, Jellystone, is airing on HBO Max, not Hulu.

When the old show was on air Turner had the rights. Now WB controls those rights, so they can do what they want with them.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

The “mansplaining” bit bothers me more than the Trump thing. Now if the ONLY mock Trump, then it’ll be annoying

 

[Munchingonfish]

Clinton was in the original show, so you should've expected Trump.

The cringe will be if it's all TDS stuff, especially since he's probably not going to be the president much longer. This season comes out after the election.

 

[Jar-Jar Fanboy]

I wanted to be excited for the Animaniacs revival, but between the obvious Trump cyclops, the "never mansplainy," and the catfish bit from Pinky and The Brain, I'm let down. Also, does anyone else feel like a lot of modern animation looks cheap? Like it's almost too clean, and lacks a certain charm a lot of older animation had? I'm not sure how to describe it, but do you know what I'm getting at?

 

[The Pink Panther]

Yeah, this is gonna fucking suck.

I mean would you really expect more or less?

I already expected this to suck with the premise of bringing in Animaniacs back in Current Year popped up back in 2018 and the fact that they didn't bring any of the OG's to write for the show. There is no surprise at all that was going to be anything more or less than a piece of garbage.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

I wanted to be excited for the Animaniacs revival, but between the obvious Trump cyclops, the "never mansplainy," and the catfish bit from Pinky and The Brain, I'm let down. Also, does anyone else feel like a lot of modern animation looks cheap? Like it's almost too clean, and lacks a certain charm a lot of older animation had? I'm not sure how to describe it, but do you know what I'm getting at?

I think a lot of it was made in Flash, so that might have something to do with it.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

Clinton was in the original show, so you should've expected Trump.

The cringe will be if it's all TDS stuff, especially since he's probably not going to be the president much longer. This season comes out after the election.

My main concern about this wasn't the political jabs - Clinton is all over the 90s WB cartoons and no one complained - but the obvious possibility it'll be dated before it comes out.

(Given how long it takes to make animation and how a lot of it was probably done before March, I doubt there'll be any Biden jokes.)

 

[Jar-Jar Fanboy]

I think a lot of it was made in Flash, so that might have something to do with it.

Yeah, that's probably it. I notice a lot with modern animation. The first time it really hit me was The Simpsons. The earlier, hand-drawn seasons felt more alive than the sterile HD animation of the more recent stuff

 

[Trombonista]

I wanted to be excited for the Animaniacs revival, but between the obvious Trump cyclops, the "never mansplainy," and the catfish bit from Pinky and The Brain, I'm let down. Also, does anyone else feel like a lot of modern animation looks cheap? Like it's almost too clean, and lacks a certain charm a lot of older animation had? I'm not sure how to describe it, but do you know what I'm getting at?

I actually liked the catfish bit.

 

[Commander X]

The Animaniacs revival is being faithful to the original because there were always "political" jokes there and often the worst of the "timely, topical" jokes in the original series, by which I mean, "instantly dated and aggressively unfunny".
The "political jokes" in the Original Animaniacs were just hacky and kids won’t get these joke and even if you’re an adult, they're just not that funny. It's the sort of gags that seem to exist just for the writers to be impressed with themselves, which should be a much bigger issue than "how much and what kind of political humor is the right amount on a kids’ cartoon”

This was the sort of hack bit that almost everybody was doing back then, it's just boring.

The early Warner Brothers cartoons that Animaniacs supposedly was a descendent of had pop cultural references too, but they were often executed in a competent and funny way that made kids decades later laugh, even if they didn't know who brief caricatures of Peter Lorre or James Cagney, etc. were.

Since they've jettisoned a lot of the 127 other side characters, at least with this version we probably won't get DUDE THAT ONE SCENE FROM GOODFELLAS INGRAINED INTO THE PUBLIC CONSCIOUSNESS BUT WITH PIGEONS, YOU BETTER FUCKING LAUGH eight million times now. But, as I saw someone say, this animation looks more like something from a CD-ROM from the time of the original show.

 

[Rap Scallion]

I wanted to be excited for the Animaniacs revival, but between the obvious Trump cyclops, the "never mansplainy," and the catfish bit from Pinky and The Brain, I'm let down. Also, does anyone else feel like a lot of modern animation looks cheap? Like it's almost too clean, and lacks a certain charm a lot of older animation had? I'm not sure how to describe it, but do you know what I'm getting at?

It might be because of the program used. A lot of modern animation software like Toonboom Harmony and Adobe After Effects "fills in" motion between keyframes automatically and leads to things looking very robotic or overly clean if you don't go back in and individually adjust each frame in-between.

It's useful for said in-betweening purposes but unfortunately does lead to things looking a bit too perfect and takes away from the charm of 2D animation.

 

[Empty]

The “mansplaining” bit bothers me more than the Trump thing. Now if the ONLY mock Trump, then it’ll be annoying

Clinton was in the original show, so you should've expected Trump.

The cringe will be if it's all TDS stuff, especially since he's probably not going to be the president much longer. This season comes out after the election.

The Animaniacs revival is being faithful to the original because there were always "political" jokes there and often the worst of the "timely, topical" jokes in the original series, by which I mean, "instantly dated and aggressively unfunny".
The "political jokes" in the Original Animaniacs were just hacky and kids won’t get these joke and even if you’re an adult, they're just not that funny. It's the sort of gags that seem to exist just for the writers to be impressed with themselves, which should be a much bigger issue than "how much and what kind of political humor is the right amount on a kids’ cartoon”

The fact that the show embraces wokeness just confirms that the Trump jokes (and political jokes in general) are going to be just like all the others, mean-spirited, cheap physical jabs, and/or dripping with total lies about the man to push a political agenda. For a group of zany, insany, kids that claim to parody acts of stupidity, the fact that they are positive about leftist insanity is just disappointing. It's not about being political, it's about taking the sell out side.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

The Animaniacs revival is being faithful to the original because there were always "political" jokes there and often the worst of the "timely, topical" jokes in the original series, by which I mean, "instantly dated and aggressively unfunny".
The "political jokes" in the Original Animaniacs were just hacky and kids won’t get these joke and even if you’re an adult, they're just not that funny. It's the sort of gags that seem to exist just for the writers to be impressed with themselves, which should be a much bigger issue than "how much and what kind of political humor is the right amount on a kids’ cartoon”

This was the sort of hack bit that almost everybody was doing back then, it's just boring.

The early Warner Brothers cartoons that Animaniacs supposedly was a descendent of had pop cultural references too, but they were often executed in a competent and funny way that made kids decades later laugh, even if they didn't know who brief caricatures of Peter Lorre or James Cagney, etc. were.

Since they've jettisoned a lot of the 127 other side characters, at least with this version we probably won't get DUDE THAT ONE SCENE FROM GOODFELLAS INGRAINED INTO THE PUBLIC CONSCIOUSNESS BUT WITH PIGEONS, YOU BETTER FUCKING LAUGH eight million times now. But, as I saw someone say, this animation looks more like something from a CD-ROM from the time of the original show.

That, admittedly, was kinda funny considering the episode it came from wasn't very good... but there are a lot of old Looney Tunes shorts that are just "Spot the 30s Celebrity." "The Woods Are Full of Cuckoos," for example, isn't going to entertain you unless you watch TCM constantly.

The fact that the show embraces wokeness just confirms that the Trump jokes (and political jokes in general) are going to be just like all the others, mean-spirited, cheap physical jabs, and/or dripping with total lies about the man to push a political agenda. For a group of zany, insany, kids that claim to parody acts of stupidity, the fact that they are positive about leftist insanity is just disappointing. It's not about being political, it's about taking the sell out side.

Did you cry foul when Tiny Toons made fun of Trump?

I wonder whether anyone reacted this way when they made fun of Clinton back in the day.

 

[Empty]

Did you cry foul when Tiny Toons made fun of Trump?

I wonder whether anyone reacted this way when they made fun of Clinton back in the day.

Mentioning a show, when Trump wasn't even the president as an argument? Holy shit, the reboot is now an undeniable masterpiece.

Clinton jokes have been more-or-less mild and didn't portrait him as a huge backwards monster. Shouldn't I say that the show was more pro-Clinton than anti, especially if you remember the episodes with Hillary?

 

[Bread Fetishist]

Did you cry foul when Tiny Toons made fun of Trump?

That was way before Trump ran for president and jokes about him became so tired and overdone. Also, Tiny Toons didn't mention mansplaining, so....

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

That was way before Trump ran for president and jokes about him became so tired and overdone. Also, Tiny Toons didn't mention mansplaining, so....

Did you expect that the jokes about Trump in this would be something like "Oh, that Trump, he... he's working so hard for us Americans!"

It's one second and everyone's acting like it's the end of the world. I doubt they won't do anything to him they didn't already do to Clinton.

 

[Empty]

It's one second and everyone's acting like it's the end of the world.

Criticizing a show that exploits wokeness isn't acting like it's the end of the world. You maybe don't know this, but it's very common nowadays when some people are reasonably disappointed with low-quality reboots.