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[Newman's Lovechild]

TenNapel isn't involved. But then, he wasn't involved with the 90s cartoon either and that was a very funny show.

I heard he worked to get the rights back so he could do those EWJ comics crowdfunders. Or was that arrangement just for comics?

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

I heard he worked to get the rights back so he could do those EWJ comics crowdfunders. Or was that arrangement just for comics?

Maybe. He doesn't own the character and has apparently said he doesn't mind that he won't be involved.

 

[Asdfgunman81]

I dunno how to feel about this. I like the premise but I don't know how this is going to be executed... maybe it'll be good, though.

If Roger Rabbit's gonna have a cameo, has all the stuff with Spielberg been sorted out?

From what I've looked up on Roger, it looks like that things got sorted out. Although. Did it get the final approval from its creator Gary Wolf?

 

[Somerandoontheweb]

So, does anyone has an opinion on this "turning red" movie trailer? I've read nothing but praise so far. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XdKzUbAiswE

 

[thegooddoctor]

Anyone here ever watched Tyler, The Creator’s “The Jellies”?

This might belong in the [adult swim] Griefing Thread, but I remember after Loiter Squad came out, they wanted both him and his friend Lionel Boyce to do a cartoon for them. Only thing is, though, is that they managed to do just a couple of seasons and that was it.

I do, however, remember when this interview Tyler gave to a Comic-Con audience more than a few years back. It was a trending on YT at point for a couple of months:

I have seen it, it’s pretty bad, none of the characters in the show are particularly memorable or interesting, the jokes aren’t funny, the concept is so plainly surreal (like a bunch of sentient jellybeans come to life and live with normal people, wtf is that it?) and it has the ugliest visuals of any adult swim series (including Squidbillies and 12 oz mouse) incredibly sterile and bland character designs. Boring color palette and limited animation. So yeah not a fan, if you like it good for you I guess.

 

[Observotron]

So, does anyone has an opinion on this "turning red" movie trailer? I've read nothing but praise so far. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XdKzUbAiswE

Someone made the Steven Universe art Style 3d.

Other than that - it's the usual, formulaic Pixar drivel about being true to yourself. The first minute of the trailer already makes me feel like I've seen this movie time and time again. The line "This is going to be the best year ever, nothing's gonna stand in my way" could be a quote from about 20 other movies.

Here's the synopsis.

1. Overconfident, egotistical girl is going to have big, important event at school.
2. She'll get turned into a red Panda after having a bad dream
3. Freak out about it and learn family past. Some kind of strawman, unbelievable villain will probably be established around this time.
4. Friends are supportive and helpful.
5. Funny character and world building section that'll take up about a quarter of the run time.
6. She'll have a meltdown and get too bossy, turning in to the red panda at an inopportune time. This problem will be easily solvable but wont be because it's written by for children
7. The Darkest night of the soul will happen. Villain will become relevant again.
8. All is lost, then friends come back and have a hug fest, defeat villain.
9. Message of the movie is restated, credits roll, pop song starts playing.

Lol allegory for growing up. So deep. Do insightful.

Realistically, there's nothing to talk about that hasn't been said about the past decade of Pixar movies. It'll be a okay at worst and be generally un-offensive to most everyone.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

From what I've looked up on Roger, it looks like that things got sorted out. Although. Did it get the final approval from its creator Gary Wolf?

I don't know, but I heard long ago that doing anything with Roger required Spielberg's approval, which he wasn't really giving after 1993 or so...

 

[Asdfgunman81]

I don't know, but I heard long ago that doing anything with Roger required Spielberg's approval, which he wasn't really giving after 1993 or so...

There were a 4th short scrapped, which aside from Spielberg not liking the story, he was pissed that Eisner failed to keep a promise to Spielberg(which he had a bad habit of doing). The only thing that exists of this cancelled short is this painted cel.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

There were a 4th short scrapped, which aside from Spielberg not liking the story, he was pissed that Eisner failed to keep a promise to Spielberg(which he had a bad habit of doing). The only thing that exists of this cancelled short is this painted cel.

I assume the plot would have involved a fancy restaurant?

 

[Asdfgunman81]

I assume the plot would have involved a fancy restaurant?

It looks like it was the sort, the only thing that was said about the short was that Spielberg 'didn't like it', and cancelled it. He's pretty much rejected every other pitch regarding on that rabbit for so long. Its a little surprising that someone can hold a grudge that long if you look at it. There was talk about Gary wolf pitching a remake( fully animated remake) of The stooge with Mickey Mouse and Roger Rabbit which went nowhere.

 

[A Grey Cat]

I dunno how to feel about this. I like the premise but I don't know how this is going to be executed... maybe it'll be good, though.

If Roger Rabbit's gonna have a cameo, has all the stuff with Spielberg been sorted out?

The idea is there, the idea for Disney to have self aware humor anyways. The problem is that Disney CAN'T do self aware humor. They can't laugh at themselves the way Warner could (yes I said could) or other studios because they have egos the size of the sleeping beauty castle. The few times they have tried to poke fun at themselves at best come off as poor written at worst you get something like Ralph breaks the internet.

Putting aside the fact Disney (or really any mainstream animation studio) can't satirize something like the internet, because it has to be "sanitized" into a squeaky clean place, the internet just simply is not nor will ever be. The "oh my Disney," and Princess scene from that movie felt less like self aware humor, and more like Disney whipping out their big, cooperate dick and telling the coemption (and the consumer) to look at how big it is."

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

There is a rage building.
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>claims that video piracy is the real villian
>yet has to reboot characters that have not been famous since the 90’s

 

[Quijibo69]

Kill it with fire! They play this ad all the time on Youtube and I think it's GrubHub.

 

[Raoul_Duke]

Kill it with fire! They play this ad all the time on Youtube and I think it's GrubHub.

I can't make it ten seconds in. It is disgusting. Would it kill for a modern Western animator as good as Miyazaki who doesn't work for this sort of crap?

 

[Trilby]

I can't make it ten seconds in. It is disgusting. Would it kill for a modern Western animator as good as Miyazaki who doesn't work for this sort of crap?

You do feel sorry for all the work that traditional animators of before have gave us, only to get replaced by this.

 

[Raoul_Duke]

You do feel sorry for all the work that traditional animators of before have gave us, only to get replaced by this.

If Walt, Ub Iwerks, the 9 Old Men, and the rest could spring from the grave to look at this shit, they'd probably go ahead and burn down animation studios with how fiery their rage would be.

Hopefully we get better animators and animation as the decade wears on.
Hell I think this sums up my point of view perfectly.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

RIP Will Ryan, voice of Petrie, the Duck Brothers, Willie the Giant and creator of Elmo Aardvark.

 

[Trilby]

RIP Will Ryan, voice of Petrie, the Duck Brothers, Willie the Giant and creator of Elmo Aardvark.

Even did Rabbit for one Winnie the Pooh film (A Day for Eeyore). I best remember him appearing in this film!

 

[Dark Emporer Dood]

So, does anyone has an opinion on this "turning red" movie trailer? I've read nothing but praise so far. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XdKzUbAiswE

When the MC turns into a red Tanuki/Panda/whatever her designs okay, but the humans all have this 3D Steven Universe look going on. I can't figure out why Pixar would jump to that style so late in the game, let alone imitate a much cheaper animation art style. It'd be like if Disney imitated Linus the Lionhearted when they made the Lion King.

You do feel sorry for all the work that traditional animators of before have gave us, only to get replaced by this.

They'd likely praise some of the technical aspects but wonder why the mouths just float about on the human characters.

 

[Trilby]

When the MC turns into a red Tanuki/Panda/whatever her designs okay, but the humans all have this 3D Steven Universe look going on. I can't figure out why Pixar would jump to that style so late in the game, let alone imitate a much cheaper animation art style. It'd be like if Disney imitated Linus the Lionhearted when they made the Lion King.


They'd likely praise some of the technical aspects but wonder why the mouths just float about on the human characters.

I could see Milt Kahl think that. What with the mouths he's rendered by hand.