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[Stoicism Is For Losers]

This clip really bothers me, like she's acting like a complete cunt and people are praising it

https://youtube.com/watch?v=R4QSSx6mkKA

What is the message being sent here? That it's OK to be rude to people just because you have autism? Don't normalize the tard-card

 

[Oats12345]

Yes please, encourage seeing autistics as unable to pleasant and let them get away with being a jerks. It will definitely make them more popular and able to cope with the world.

All the things I try not being. I find it kind of mess up that their telling autistic kids that it's okay to be rude. Maybe cartoons shouldn't address autism if they aren't actually teaching people on the spectrum how to control themselves.

 

[Stoicism Is For Losers]

All the things I try not being. I find it kind of mess up that their telling autistic kids that it's okay to be rude. Maybe cartoons shouldn't address autism if they aren't actually teaching people on the spectrum how to control themselves.

The correct way would have the character apologize for the inappropriate comment, not doubling down and using autism as an excuse.
"I'm sorry for saying bad things about your beets, I have autism so sometimes i say inappropriate things without thinking." Its way more helpful because it shows that the character has the humility to realize what they did was inappropriate and also helps to set the expectations of the characters around them as well as the viewer. A viewer might walk away from this interpreting that autistic people are shameless and rude. The goal should be to set the expectations in kids that autistic people sometimes make mistakes, but that they are capable of taking responsibility for their actions and are usually good at heart.

 

[Anonitolia]

Yes please, encourage seeing autistics as unable to pleasant and let them get away with being a jerks. It will definitely make them more popular and able to cope with the world.

the only "positive" I can think of coming from this is more milk for the farms

I hope to god this doesn't create a new wave of retards being assholes to people and then saying "tee hee just stemming"

as if every twitter autist doesn't already do this to justify their terrible behavior

too late, some retard in the comments tried this same shit ass excuse, and luckily people railed the person super hard that they left:

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very well-deserved, but now i'm wondering how abominable the comments underneath that one must be
bracing myself for lots of "those guys on discord are assholes, you were totally in the right!!!"s from genderspecial 13 year olds

 

[Life is Hell...]

What is the message being sent here? That it's OK to be rude to people just because you have autism? Don't normalize the tard-card

What's even more Mystifying is that they actually got an Autism Advocacy group to supervise that episode.

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Link: https://www.respectability.org/2023/03/ghost-and-molly-mcgee-autism
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Is this really how they want Autistic representation to be like? because i think it'll only cause even more discrimination.

 

[Anonitolia]

What's even more Mystifying is that they actually got an Autism Advocacy group to supervise that episode.
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Link: https://www.respectability.org/2023/03/ghost-and-molly-mcgee-autism
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Is this really how they want Autistic people to be seen like, i think it'll only cause more discrimination.

so that's another organization to add to the list of "assholes actively harming the group they're supposedly advocating for"?
also, nice introduction date lol

 

[Oats12345]

What's even more Mystifying is that they actually got an Autism Advocacy group to supervise that episode.
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Link: https://www.respectability.org/2023/03/ghost-and-molly-mcgee-autism
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Is this really how they want Autistic representation to be like? because i think it'll only cause even more discrimination.

so that's another organization to add to the list of "assholes actively harming the group they're supposedly advocating for"?
also, nice introduction date lol

There's a reason I tell people as a person on the autistic spectrum I don't want anything to do with these "advocacy" groups.

 

[SpiderBitch]

What's even more Mystifying is that they actually got an Autism Advocacy group to supervise that episode.
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Is this really how they want Autistic representation to be like? because i think it'll only cause even more discrimination.

The terms just keep adding up.



Jfc just say Asian, Pacific islander or mixed instead of semi randomly dumping two groups into 1 term, what the fuck do a chinese american, an Indian in India and a native hawaiian even have in common?

Edit: apparently that term is actually old and was replaced with Asian and Pacific islander being seperate categories for a reason back in the 2000s, yet recently I've seen cartoon social medias regularly lumping them in together again, like cartoon network making a comp about their craig of the creek asian + pacific characters in 1 video.
Why???

 

[Anonitolia]

what the fuck do a chinese american and a native hawaiian even have in common?

they're both technicalities that "anti-racists" forgot to account for while foaming at the mouth over native americans and black people so they just lumped them together to be able to screech that they're doing something about every race for more social justice points

also something something they live in the same ocean

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>old terms for race being revived to support modern race reformation
>old terms that were specifically discarded relatively recently to distinguish different races
I really hope this trend continues
Combined with people using racial slurs to try and "reclaim them" it is making for very good popcorn
Not to mention the new-age Sambas tumblr has so lovingly provided us with
inb4 people start unironically talking about "nigger supremacy" to own the far-right

 

[SpiderBitch]

something something they live in the same ocean

Term apparently also applies to South asians nowhere close to the pacific, so it really does mean 'literally everyone except for whites, blacks, and non-hawaiian native americans', at this point if you're gonna be that non-specific just use PoC, because now it just seems like they want people to know that they have a PoC character that specifically isn't black or native lmao rather than being proud of having an east-asian or chinese or whatever character.

And Aside from Latinos who have native blood making them darker, native characters are still basically non existent anyways, so really it just means 'Non-black poc'

If there is one they'd just call them Native rather than 'BIPOC' which I've only ever seen used for Blacks and never for Natives or even Latinos.

 

[Anonitolia]

Term apparently also applies to South asians nowhere close to the pacific, so it really does mean 'literally everyone except for whites, blacks, and non-hawaiian native americans', at this point if you're gonna be that non-specific just use PoC, because now it just seems like they want people to know that they have a PoC character that specifically isn't black or native lmao rather than being proud of having an east-asian or chinese or whatever character.

holy shit LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DUDE dude at this point they should just call every single immigrant that isn't african "eurasian"
it's just as vague and unclear as AAPI and PoC

 

[Grumpy Pickle Rick]

I find it kind of mess up that their telling autistic kids that it's okay to be rude. Maybe cartoons shouldn't address autism if they aren't actually teaching people on the spectrum how to control themselves.

I agree.

The last thing we need is some stupid kids cartoon validating rudeness and anti-social behavior.

We already have enough that in the world.

 

[Oats12345]

I agree.

The last thing we need is some stupid kids cartoon validating rudeness and anti-social behavior.

We already have enough that in the world.

Agreed. This doesn't encourage Autistic kids to improve their flaws but encourage them to act out those faults without remorse and to have an excuse.

Serously I find this very offensive as someone who had to overcome these challenges.

 

[Life is Hell...]

The terms just keep adding up.

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Jfc just say Asian, Pacific islander or mixed instead of semi randomly dumping two groups into 1 term, what the fuck do a chinese american, an Indian in India and a native hawaiian even have in common?

Edit: apparently that term is actually old and was replaced with Asian and Pacific islander being seperate categories for a reason back in the 2000s, yet recently I've seen cartoon social medias regularly lumping them in together again, like cartoon network making a comp about their craig of the creek asian + pacific characters in 1 video.
Why???

Term apparently also applies to South asians nowhere close to the pacific, so it really does mean 'literally everyone except for whites, blacks, and non-hawaiian native americans', at this point if you're gonna be that non-specific just use PoC, because now it just seems like they want people to know that they have a PoC character that specifically isn't black or native lmao rather than being proud of having an east-asian or chinese or whatever character.

Speaking of which, apparently there's an upcoming episode where Molly questions if she's "Asian Enough" for her family.

 

[Anonitolia]

Speaking of which, apparently there's an upcoming episode where Molly questions if she's "Asian Enough" for her family.
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it's a shame this has to happen to one of the only unique-looking cartoons of recent times

 

[SpiderBitch]

it's a shame this has to happen to one of the only unique-looking cartoons of recent times

Eh, while the autism-excuse shit is imo quite egregious, looking at just the synopsis this doesn't seem too bad, since the title is '100% Molly' it's probably some basic message about how worrying about something like that is silly or whatever. Discussing this kind of thing in a cartoon on it's own is fine, it just really heavily depends on the execution, like how modern Proud Family fucks up premises that aren't too bad on their own.

They handled the jewish shit pretty ok in the first season, and the period stuff so far just turned out to be a VERY minor part of an episode about Molly feeling immature compared to her friends.
So it can really go either way.

 

[Life is Hell...]

it's a shame this has to happen to one of the only unique-looking cartoons of recent times

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To quote the great Han Solo... "I've got a bad feeling about this"

 

[Colon capital V]

Eh, while the autism-excuse shit is imo quite egregious, looking at just the synopsis this doesn't seem too bad, since the title is '100% Molly' it's probably some basic message about how worrying about something like that is silly or whatever. Discussing this kind of thing in a cartoon on it's own is fine, it just really heavily depends on the execution, like how modern Proud Family fucks up premises that aren't too bad on their own.

They handled the jewish shit pretty ok in the first season, and the period stuff so far just turned out to be a VERY minor part of an episode about Molly feeling immature compared to her friends.

Yeah I could understand how ethnically you're a born from a genetically unique background but being raised in the west could make you feel like you're not like "that group" enough to fit in with your people, even if you are ethnically the same. That being said I don't trust current year nu-west shows to actually handle this well not without some semblance of woke thrown into it.

 

[Life is Hell...]

Yeah I could understand how ethnically you're a born from a genetically unique background but being raised in the west could make you feel like you're not like "that group" enough to fit in with your people, even if you are ethnically the same. That being said I don't trust current year nu-west shows to actually handle this well not without some semblance of woke thrown into it.

Especially when you have writers like these working on your show...

 

[Niggerphobe]

Especially when you have writers like these working on your show...
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This seems close to being like the owl house except it’s race instead of gender