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YouTube is just a dying platform. It is trying so hard to be TikTok and Twitch, both of which have become massive cancers to the site. Animation died when they changed the algorithm back in like 2016 to favor watch time rather than clicks. Video essays and streams became YouTube's bread and butter as they are quick to produce and can go on for like 5+ hours to milk that ad revenue. At this point, internet animation will just be TikToks and VTuber cringe.
YouTube hasn't been good after 2017. I've seen cracks forming by a few years prior in 2013 and it's getting worse and worse to the point where almost nobody even wants to come back to the site. Even most content creators sold their souls to the devil by clout chasing current things in hopes they are good people.

Nowadays, tthe only channels I follow are Oney, RLM, E;R, EmpLemon and Synthcool (as well as a couple others I'm failing to mention right now) as they still make quality content and aren't whoring out to the lowest common denominator. And I would not be surprised if animators will migrate to (god forbid) Instagram, TikTok, VTuber or Twitch among other cringe inducing sites.
 
speaking of youtube...


wow...just fucking wow where to even begin with this? Can any kiwis better than us see about checking if this is a potential cow for the stinkditch boards? or at the very least a mention? Was considering posting it there but..so far this doesn't look like someone outrageous or thread worthy beyond the...very misguided tranny analysis of a once innocent and harmless episode of a kids show. Oh and the comments? They're just as retarded...maybe worse. The user actually used the phrase "crack an egg." Aka groom a minor into the tranny cult.

Link to YouTube channel. apparently it also has a twitter (of course) a ko-fi, and a patreon.
https://www.youtube.com/@LilySimpson/videos
There's a similar video done by a Faggy Brit where he talks about the Gonzorella episode of the Muppet Babies reboot.

He also did a retrospective about the forgotten Disney show Nightmare Ned, and he and his friend do in-depth analysis about the episode Girl Trouble, which is where Ned turns into a girl.
 
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speaking of youtube...


wow...just fucking wow where to even begin with this? Can any kiwis better than us see about checking if this is a potential cow for the stinkditch boards? or at the very least a mention? Was considering posting it there but..so far this doesn't look like someone outrageous or thread worthy beyond the...very misguided tranny analysis of a once innocent and harmless episode of a kids show. Oh and the comments? They're just as retarded...maybe worse. The user actually used the phrase "crack an egg." Aka groom a minor into the tranny cult.

Link to YouTube channel. apparently it also has a twitter (of course) a ko-fi, and a patreon.
https://www.youtube.com/@LilySimpson/videos
I refuse to watch this video but I'm guessing they forgot the part where Cosmo goes full based and says "Who cares what you think, you're a GIRL!"

YouTube hasn't been good after 2017. I've seen cracks forming by a few years prior in 2013 and it's getting worse and worse to the point where almost nobody even wants to come back to the site. Even most content creators sold their souls to the devil by clout chasing current things in hopes they are good people.

Nowadays, tthe only channels I follow are Oney, RLM, E;R, EmpLemon and Synthcool (as well as a couple others I'm failing to mention right now) as they still make quality content and aren't whoring out to the lowest common denominator. And I would not be surprised if animators will migrate to (god forbid) Instagram, TikTok, VTuber or Twitch among other cringe inducing sites.
Not JonTron or Internet Historian? Those guys are pretty great. I like Count Dankula and Whang too. I'm hoping that a lot of YouTube people start using Rumble so it isn't just a bunch of politics. It seems like the alt site with the most promise.
 
Vivzipop and her body of work may be the best argument I have seen since John K on why the suits are necessary to make an artistic effort not be shit. I dont mean that getting a S&P rep could have turned things around but the lack of experience of the crew involved shows in how aimless the whole thing is, specially with its characters. Take away the 2edgy4you work of paint and you are left with a show that would have been laughed out of the building in its first pitch funded on Patreon bucks. No one outside of furries and aging emos actually likes this as is, rather the idea of sticking it to the industry we in this thread love to hate. I feel the main ounce of credit Im willing to give to Medrano is not selling out to Cartoon Network or HBO Max.
I think one thing the last decade taught us is how bad things get when creators actually get their infinite money checks and no oversight. At best you'll get extremely mediocre product based on billion different ideas and no one clear direction, at worse you'll get a terrible continuation of a series that actively spits on its predecessors.

You need to have suits to actually tardwrangle creatots and demand time tables.
 
Not JonTron or Internet Historian? Those guys are pretty great. I like Count Dankula and Whang too. I'm hoping that a lot of YouTube people start using Rumble so it isn't just a bunch of politics. It seems like the alt site with the most promise.
JonTron, Internet Historian and Dankula (as well as Dr. Wolfula, Dereck Shado, Dunkey and many others) are also stuff I watch, and again, I mentioned most others, because I haven't forgotten these channels. Again, most content creators either sell out with virtue signaling bullshit or have run their course.
 
I heard this song on Hamster and Gretel the other day, and it sounds really out of place. H&G and Phineas & Ferb always had really silly sounding songs, so this song that sounds just like those old love songs from 20 years ago feels really odd, but it's very good. The kid who voices Kevin is a surprisingly talented singer.

Speaking of cartoon songs, this song from Big City Greens made me feel kind of sad, something a cartoon song hasn't done since the Where's Gary song from SpongeBob.

It shocks me that Disney puts out stuff like this, then follows it up with dogshit like Hailey's On It.
 
Watched Nimona because the art style looked good, and the things people in the thread have said piqued my interest. I've never read the comics because Noelle's art style is physically repulsive to me, so I went in blind. I'd say it's like a 6/10, probably?

Pros:
It's a fun enough film- the action's bouncy and energetic and there are some pretty good bits of comedy in it. I wouldn't have known it was a troon allegory if nobody had told me, which means it's more subtle than other shit Noelle's put out. Ballister and Nimona definitely make this film- they bounce off of each other really well, you can understand why they're so loyal to each other, and I'm always down for the Stressed Guy and the Chaotic Girl He Cares About character dynamic. The setting being this fusion of medieval fantasy and cyberpunk was really cool and something I don't see often. All of the character designs sans Ambrosius (his haircut sucks) look great. The voice cast is also really solid. The animation on the characters was great. They're all super expressive with both their faces and body language, and you can tell that the animators took advantage of the medium and had fun with all of the facial expressions the characters pull. It's definitely nice to see a new art style used in 3D animation, and I hope the trend of experimenting with the medium continues.

Cons:
Ballister's gay, but he's honestly got better chemistry with Nimona than he does with his love interest. I find this extremely funny because I think Noelle would break out in hives if someone told her that. Because of their minimal levels of chemistry, Bal and Ambrosius' relationship falls flat and I think people would be completely and utterly indifferent to them if Ambrosius was Ambrosia or vice versa. The worldbuilding's also pretty weak- people were stationed on top of the walls for a thousand years and nobody noticed that there were no monsters out there? They invested so much into anti-monster defenses, only for the movie to imply that absolutely none of it was necessary, which feels dumb to me- people wouldn't be doing this shit for a thousand years if they weren't seeing any sort of returns.

Biggest Con:
Nimona constantly is gunning to maim and kill and destroy property, blows up government buildings, assaults the police (who are, in their and the populace's minds, literally just trying to capture the dude who committed regicide on live TV), and generally spreads havoc and destruction wherever she goes, and then has a mental breakdown when the general public calls her a monster. Like girl, if the shoe fits, you're gonna be wearing it. Don't act like a monster and then get upset when people consider you one. This is honestly the biggest detractor of the movie- I'd probably consider it a 6.5-7/10 film if it weren't for how fucking irritating this bit is. Literally all she has to do in order to "fit in" is not cause massive amounts of property damage and bodily harm, but this is apparently too hard for her to do.

TLDR; the movie's far from a masterpiece, but it's a good flick to shut your brain off to and have fun with. I don't feel like I've wasted my time by watching it, but it's also not something I feel compelled to rewatch. 6/10.
 
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Can any kiwis better than us see about checking if this is a potential cow for the stinkditch boards?
100% a potential cow, just look at that profile pic, it couldn't scream "i can't dilate" any harder.

until i checked the other videos it posted.
holy shit, this channel is the definition of a tranny YouTuber. i don't think the stinkditch board has ever come across anything like this.
troon this, cult that. every media on this wet rock we call earth, has either or will have a video on it on this thing's channel.

this thing making a video on such a classic episode of a great cartoon is an insult to everyone who worked on and enjoyed it.
 
speaking of youtube...


wow...just fucking wow where to even begin with this? Can any kiwis better than us see about checking if this is a potential cow for the stinkditch boards? or at the very least a mention? Was considering posting it there but..so far this doesn't look like someone outrageous or thread worthy beyond the...very misguided tranny analysis of a once innocent and harmless episode of a kids show. Oh and the comments? They're just as retarded...maybe worse. The user actually used the phrase "crack an egg." Aka groom a minor into the tranny cult.

Link to YouTube channel. apparently it also has a twitter (of course) a ko-fi, and a patreon.
https://www.youtube.com/@LilySimpson/videos
I wish there was a lolcow thread on that fucker
 
It’s been late but Spider-Man Across the Spiderverse definitely surprised me since I had pretty low expectations after how people overhyped the first one. But seeing it two times and it did deserve its hype this time. It’s probably one of the better superhero multiverse flicks for actually taking advantage of it and I do appreciate that they took a D-List villain and made them a genuine threat. I look forward to the third one.

My main complaint with the film though is how Sony distributed it since the first time I watched it there were audio issues with the film being too quiet but it turned out it was a massive blunder on Sony’s part.
 
My main complaint with the film though is how Sony distributed it since the first time I watched it there were audio issues with the film being too quiet but it turned out it was a massive blunder on Sony’s part.
It was a same issue for me, and the weird thing is that I watched it in high quality to when I torrented it. It was a legit pressing from Sony themselves, and I'm not surprised that they're hiring people who are completely incompetent because they did that for years, as with many other big name companies.

I can safely say this, I sure do hope somebody got fired for that blunder
 
About Nimona's art-direction, was that something Blue Sky was doing originally or did Netflix mandate the toon-cel Wind Waker look? It looks cheap to me from what I saw when my brother watched it, and it's bugging the shit out of me. Like yes, the look of the movie is a vast improvement on Noelle's shitty Tumblr art, I am just tired of toon-cel in 3D where it doesn't belong/when nothing else is added to it. Like hey, here's a thought: Go the Paperman route! Just add some outlines to like the jawline and shit so the humans don't look like chinless blobs.
 
About Nimona's art-direction, was that something Blue Sky was doing originally or did Netflix mandate the toon-cel Wind Waker look? It looks cheap to me from what I saw when my brother watched it, and it's bugging the shit out of me. Like yes, the look of the movie is a vast improvement on Noelle's shitty Tumblr art, I am just tired of toon-cel in 3D where it doesn't belong/when nothing else is added to it. Like hey, here's a thought: Go the Paperman route! Just add some outlines to like the jawline and shit so the humans don't look like chinless blobs.
There was actually leaked test footage from the movie back when it was being done by Blue Sky, and it seems they were always gonna use that cel-shaded style.

Speaking of which, get a load of this tweet someone made when the footage first leaked.
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There was actually leaked test footage from the movie back when it was being done by Blue Sky, and it seems they were always gonna use that cel-shaded style.

Speaking of which, get a load of this tweet someone made when the footage first leaked.
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>you're putting the animators at risk by releasing test footage of a movie that's already out
if that's the case, Disney have been putting their own animators at risk since the inception of DVDs:
 
Ballister's gay, but he's honestly got better chemistry with Nimona than he does with his love interest. I find this extremely funny because I think Noelle would break out in hives if someone told her that.
My understanding is that their relationship is way different in the comics. They're way bigger assholes to each other, so it's more of that sharp, messy nemesis-ship angle. I also don't think Noelle had a big role in the film. I've seen some people complain that they dulled down the meanness for the film to make the characters more palatable. I guess they just let Nimona be the problematic one.
 
100% a potential cow, just look at that profile pic, it couldn't scream "i can't dilate" any harder.

until i checked the other videos it posted.
holy shit, this channel is the definition of a tranny YouTuber. i don't think the stinkditch board has ever come across anything like this.
troon this, cult that. every media on this wet rock we call earth, has either or will have a video on it on this thing's channel.

this thing making a video on such a classic episode of a great cartoon is an insult to everyone who worked on and enjoyed it.
I wish there was a lolcow thread on that fucker
I leave it to you fellow kiwis dig deep amd dredge up whatever you can find. From the second the video started with that poster in the background to the droning dull autistic way of speaking we may have an entry on the tranny sideshow board at the very least...cause yeah youtube RECOMMEND me this creatures content. They think this is the buckshot the people want.



dogshit like Hailey's On It.
It's really bad? I haven't seen an episode yet so I can't give my honest opinion but fron what I've seen aside a few of the modern diversity boxes tries to keep checkmarking. (Stronk girl, of color, dumbass best friend being a boy, and especiallythat danger hair who is the catalystto the whole plot) Hailey at least looks better whatever the fuck oye primos will be...at least the lead has to kiss a boy to save the day.
 
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