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[Life is Hell...]

Apparently a couple of Disney TVA employees responded to the whole leak thing.

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[Basic Blond Boy]

So basically, they got used as another disposable pawn for a bunch of bigger companies pulling the strings with every attempt to revitalize themselves either being shut down or quietly cancelled, just barely coasting off their brand recognition as the guys who used to make really cool shit?

Pretty much. I have no faith in them ever rebounding at this point. Currently, there are rumors that Warner is trying to buy out Paramount. If this deal goes through, I would place bets on it meaning the end of CN. Nickelodeon may be built on pedos, but it is a far bigger brand and more worthwhile to make the primary children's network than CN.

 

[Trollblade69]

When was the last time /co/ enjoyed a show the whole way through without criticism? Over The Garden Wall?

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

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you are just mad that people are seeing that Disney was right to cancel your shit. Once on the internet, always on the internet. Cope and seethe

 

[Whirus]

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I feel like most of these things (story bibles, pilots) should be archived even if it's not considered lost media.

Do DVDs/Blu-ray's even include special features including things like that anymore?

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Do DVDs/Blu-ray's even exist anymore?

FIFY

To answer, no, most of them are slimmed down to just the shows nowadays as extras cost too much money.

 

[Tom Bombodildo]

Apparently a couple of Disney TVA employees responded to the whole leak thing.
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Genuinely, unironically the history of these channels and old shows being made public for archival is more important than every single '''''animation''''' job in the industry today. If there were a button to archive and make public all of this material but every animator got fired, I'd press it twice.

It's a dead channel now. Warner gutted them years ago and just like Warner prime, they are nothing more than a collection of IPs that can just be sold off to the next mega-corp that is willing to take on Warner's ungodly debt.

Call me crazy, but I kinda don't see cartoon IP centralization as that much of a bad thing. If all cartoon IPs were split between two entertainment mega-corps and they each had a dedicated division to produce a reboot or new show from their IPs each year, we'd get way better quality, just with lower output. The shows could still be low quality because writing for American animation is in the toilet now, but I'd take 2 shows with decent writing that are actually animated in America each year over the currently dwindling sewage pipe of outsourced-to-Korea beanmouth Steven Universe-wannabe slop.

 

[Space Police]

The landscape is pretty depressing. I think CN just gave up competing with tiktok, streamers and anime for kids' attentions and started relying on nostalgia baiting with that Checkered Past block.

PBS recently introduced a retro block, I think. Good if you want to watch Thomas and Mr. Rogers; I hope they'll air Between the Lions on it.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I hope they'll air Between the Lions on it.

Oh God Between the Lions is 24 years old now, therefore retro.

Fuck.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Call me crazy, but I kinda don't see cartoon IP centralization as that much of a bad thing. If all cartoon IPs were split between two entertainment mega-corps and they each had a dedicated division to produce a reboot or new show from their IPs each year, we'd get way better quality, just with lower output.

Hard disagree. The past two decades have been monopolization and quality has only been on a downward trend across the board. Animation has no dedicated space at these companies compared to when a channel like CN was more independent. As such, the higher ups meddle way more and the likelihood of getting nepo-hires, such as Mindy, gets way higher.

 

[A Grey Cat]

Sad week for animation depending on how you see these leaked pilots coupled with velmas second season dropping. As it's been said the only thing funny about this show is the final episode of this season is a cliffhanger were the titular velmas is dead her soul wandering around lost for eternity or at least until she gets a new body which is probably what they want to do for a season 3.

Only This time around the show has to earn a second season and the outlook is not so good given how people stick hate it.


I still think velma meets velma should be the cannon ending/explanation for this show and why it's as terrible as it is.

 

[Colon capital V]

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Don't care, get (clitty) leaked nigger.

 

[Lone Star]

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Wasn't there also something where the creator said that the big spooky darkness represented toxic online fans or some shit?

 

[starborn427614]

When was the last time /co/ enjoyed a show the whole way through without criticism? Over The Garden Wall?

To be fair, OTGW is pretty peak.

 

[Trollblade69]

To be fair, OTGW is pretty peak.

It's only ten half-length episodes, though.

 

[starborn427614]

It's only ten half-length episodes, though.

Snow White was only 83 minutes long, but it was still revolutionary. The best kinds of media make good use of their runtime.

 

[Jormungand]

Wasn't there also something where the creator said that the big spooky darkness represented toxic online fans or some shit?

That wouldn't be too far off, considering this show was Dodge Greenley's dream child (or, in this case, miscarriage).

When you research the man, his main reason for making Pibby seems to be "making cartoons for children, driven by the noble aspiration to corrupt the world's youths."
You can see it in his bio.

He's everything you would expect, and he was involved in such "stellar" shows like these.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

When you research the man, his main reason for making Pibby seems to be "making cartoons for children, driven by the noble aspiration to corrupt the world's youths."
You can see it in his bio.

He's trying to be hip and shitposty, but instead has come off as a fucking creep with no love for the medium of animation. Topped off with a dead stare for a headshot, and you got the embodiment of everything wrong with the modern industry.

 

[Señora Airi]

When you research the man, his main reason for making Pibby seems to be "making cartoons for children, driven by the noble aspiration to corrupt the world's youths."
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Can the quirky bios die off already? I get making one joke, but when all but one sentence ends in one, it comes off less quirky and fun going, and more "I need attention" and "I'm not like other professionals".

 

[TVB]

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To answer, no, most of them are slimmed down to just the shows nowadays as extras cost too much money.

It's a shame because with digital streaming releases, you own nothing, unlike physical format releases. Once a product leaves digital, then it's gone, and the only way people buy physical formats is to be into a niche known as format collecting just to preserve the media originally intended

Snow White was only 83 minutes long, but it was still revolutionary. The best kinds of media make good use of their runtime.

I mean it was more of a tech demo of how a piece of animation can run in full-length