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[WitchOfDarkness]

4/10. About on par with Garfield: The Movie from 2004. Side note, I want to throttle the guy who decided to put those repetitive, sad piano notes and violin strings into every emotional scene in this movie.

I am not surprised really.

Garfield is a shallow franchise that was exclusively created to make money. It has never been deep or meaningful. To be fair, I commend them, and everyone that has had to, for trying to make it deeper than it actually is. This time they tried really hard by giving Garfield a sad backstory. The cartoon people tried by giving Garfield an expanded universe and more compelling stories.

But, at his core, Garfield is as shallow as a puddle, and it ‘s just a one trick pony franchise that just exists to sell merchandise. Calvin, and Hobbes it is not.

 

[TVB]

I am not surprised really.

Garfield is a shallow franchise that was exclusively created to make money. It has never been deep or meaningful. To be fair, I commend them, and everyone that has had to, for trying to make it deeper than it actually is. This time they tried really hard by giving Garfield a sad backstory. The cartoon people tried by giving Garfield an expanded universe and more compelling stories.

But, at his core, Garfield is as shallow as a puddle, and it ‘s just a one trick pony franchise that just exists to sell merchandise. Calvin, and Hobbes it is not.

I agree with you here, but having that said, the show Garfield & Friends is still based

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

I am not surprised really.

Garfield is a shallow franchise that was exclusively created to make money. It has never been deep or meaningful. To be fair, I commend them, and everyone that has had to, for trying to make it deeper than it actually is. This time they tried really hard by giving Garfield a sad backstory. The cartoon people tried by giving Garfield an expanded universe and more compelling stories.

But, at his core, Garfield is as shallow as a puddle, and it ‘s just a one trick pony franchise that just exists to sell merchandise. Calvin, and Hobbes it is not.

And that's what people like about Garfield. It's simple and easy to get. It's not deep but it's amusing and/or relatable enough. Something that might make you shuckle little. Garfield is perfectly enjoyable to read as it's intended, in small doses but quite often like once a day in a news paper.

 

[Chad Holdenford]

Jimmy Neutron stands out the most to me in this regard as he was a prime NickToon, arguably on par with FOP popularity wise for a good while. He was also being built up as the mascot of the company given he was the face of the Universal ride.

You now remember the abject failure of Planet Sheen. Maybe that's why the people behind Jimmy Neutron are skeptical of giving a go at a reboot and/or spinoffs.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

You now remember the abject failure of Planet Sheen. Maybe that's why the people behind Jimmy Neutron are skeptical of giving a go at a reboot and/or spinoffs.

I would say it is a possibility, though I doubt Nickelodoen itself feels the same way.

They brought back Avatar and keep pushing it regardless of its multiple failures (The live-action film and Korra), and they are bringing back FOP shortly after the failure to bring it back with that one season live-action reboot. Ren & Stimpy is also being brought back after potentially killing off an entire channel with APC.

 

[Coolio55]

You now remember the abject failure of Planet Sheen. Maybe that's why the people behind Jimmy Neutron are skeptical of giving a go at a reboot and/or spinoffs.

I wonder what the fuck those guys are doing now anyway. They all had this extremely kitschy sense of humour that was perfect for early 3D but just won't fly these days.
What I'm saying is: If they bring Jimmy back, they should intentionally render him in the same old copy of Lightwave that they used to use.

Sidenote: The original team that made Lightwave and split are advertising their product with a weird fan render of FLCL, lol (https://www.foundry.com/products/modo)

 

[Toxinophile]

I am not surprised really.

Garfield is a shallow franchise that was exclusively created to make money. It has never been deep or meaningful. To be fair, I commend them, and everyone that has had to, for trying to make it deeper than it actually is. This time they tried really hard by giving Garfield a sad backstory. The cartoon people tried by giving Garfield an expanded universe and more compelling stories.

But, at his core, Garfield is as shallow as a puddle, and it ‘s just a one trick pony franchise that just exists to sell merchandise. Calvin, and Hobbes it is not.

The effort to make a more meaningful movie would be commendable if the humor wasn't so distracting and the product placement so plain in sight. Personally I can't take a movie very seriously when it tries to undercut its serious moments like it's made by friggin Marvel. Personally I can't take a movie very seriously when Vic uses the Walmart® app to order a specialty lounge recliner thru FedEx Express® shipping, meanwhile Jon opens the fridge with inside a take-out bag from Olive Garden®®®®®®®®®®®.

Spoiler: Product placement spoilers I guess

 

[starborn427614]

I am not surprised really.

Garfield is a shallow franchise that was exclusively created to make money. It has never been deep or meaningful. To be fair, I commend them, and everyone that has had to, for trying to make it deeper than it actually is. This time they tried really hard by giving Garfield a sad backstory. The cartoon people tried by giving Garfield an expanded universe and more compelling stories.

But, at his core, Garfield is as shallow as a puddle, and it ‘s just a one trick pony franchise that just exists to sell merchandise. Calvin, and Hobbes it is not.

I forget what show or media in general this quote is from, but Garfield is the epitome of "this was funnier as a 3 panel comic". Anything else is too much.

 

[Cave Fisher]

You now remember the abject failure of Planet Sheen.

Yeah, against my will, I don't know what the fuck was going on in the writers room for that show but I wish there was even a ghost of a chance of getting that same level of crackhead energy today.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Yeah, against my will, I don't know what the fuck was going on in the writers room for that show but I wish there was even a ghost of a chance of getting that same level of crackhead energy today.

From what I recall, the initial pitch for Planet Sheen was that it was about a pizza delivery guy that got lost in space and stranded on an alien planet. From there, a Nick executive mutated the project into a Sheen spin-off because Sheen is dumb or something…

It being an original IP with Jimmy Neutron slapped on later explains a lot about why the show is the way it is.

Edit:
Actual excerpt from the Wiki

The show's original concept, called Red Acres, was about a lazy fast food employee who got blasted off into space and met aliens who were as dumb as him, but then it was changed to a show about Sheen because Cartoon Network, Kids' WB! and Disney rejected the concept.

 

[Quijibo69]

I saw the new Garfield movie, I found it pretty boring but I would see this one over the live action one. Felt like they were going after the Garfield and Friends cartoon humor, story and animation wise but missed it by a football field. Chris Pratt sucked as the voice of Garfield. I think Lorenzo Music's dead body could do a better job.

 

[anustart76]

Jimmy Neutron stands out the most to me in this regard as he was a prime NickToon, arguably on par with FOP popularity wise for a good while. He was also being built up as the mascot of the company given he was the face of the Universal ride.

In the modern era, a capable white boy genius would fly in the face of the ESG/DEI movement.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Theoretically, CN could go crazy with reboots. Dexter's Lab, Johnny Bravo, Cow & Chicken, Ed Edd n' Eddy, Courage The Cowardly Dog, Billy & Mandy, KND, Regular Show, The Amazing World of Gumball, and Steven Universe (probably also Chowder and Flapjack) were all huge for the channel, but have yet to return. By contrast, Nick only has Jimmy Neutron for a heavy hitter not used in the modern era, otherwise they have to go into lesser back catalogue like Ahh Real Monsters, Thornberries, CatDog, and My Life as a Teenage Robot.

In the case of Johnny Bravo, knowing his antics with women, how long he would keep a job?

 

[TVB]

I forget what show or media in general this quote is from, but Garfield is the epitome of "this was funnier as a 3 panel comic". Anything else is too much.

Garfield worked as meme material. Look at something like Garfielf or Lasagna Cat

 

[GAY DEAD MUPPET GANGBANG]

I am not surprised really.

Garfield is a shallow franchise that was exclusively created to make money. It has never been deep or meaningful. To be fair, I commend them, and everyone that has had to, for trying to make it deeper than it actually is. This time they tried really hard by giving Garfield a sad backstory. The cartoon people tried by giving Garfield an expanded universe and more compelling stories.

But, at his core, Garfield is as shallow as a puddle, and it ‘s just a one trick pony franchise that just exists to sell merchandise. Calvin, and Hobbes it is not.

Garfield is from a time where not everything needed to be deep and thought-provoking and a simple concept that merely entertained.

I don't count modern day necromancy in defining franchises; that's a symptom, not the origin.

 

[A Grey Cat]

From what I recall, the initial pitch for Planet Sheen was that it was about a pizza delivery guy that got lost in space and stranded on an alien planet. From there, a Nick executive mutated the project into a Sheen spin-off because Sheen is dumb or something…

It being an original IP with Jimmy Neutron slapped on later explains a lot about why the show is the way it is.

Edit:
Actual excerpt from the Wiki

When the show did become a Jimmy neutron spinoff wasn't the original plan for it to be sheen lands on alien planet with the king being a harsh dictator and sheen unintentionally ends up fighting alongside the resistance meant to take him down? The joke being sheen being...well sheen is completely oblivious to the conflict he's fallen into, as he just goes along with everything blissfully ignorant of the dark and serious story going on around him.

I'm not sure if that was the idea they wanted to go with a one point before nick told to make it more like a comedy because aside avatar they don't make those kinds of shows, but if it was then it's a damn shame they dumbed the concept down till it was as dumb as sheen himself into what we got.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

When the show did become a Jimmy neutron spinoff wasn't the original plan for it to be sheen lands on alien planet with the king being a harsh dictator and sheen unintentionally ends up fighting alongside the resistance meant to take him down? The joke being sheen being...well sheen is completely oblivious to the conflict he's fallen into, as he just goes along with everything blissfully ignorant of the dark and serious story going on around him.

I'm not sure if that was the idea they wanted to go with a one point before nick told to make it more like a comedy because aside avatar they don't make those kinds of shows, but if it was then it's a damn shame they dumbed the concept down till it was as dumb as sheen himself into what we got.

Never heard this, but if true, then I would guess Dorkus was the original ruler.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

In the case of Johnny Bravo, knowing his antics with women, how long he would keep a job?

As long as the nerd in this ad

Who made this commercial?

 

[Super-Chevy454]

As long as the nerd in this ad

Who made this commercial?

I wish I knew, that nerd looks like a Andy Dick wannabe.

 

[BetterFuckChuck]

https://twitter.com/VeraDrew22/status/1787977884642209904

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From the female, or rather "female" creator of The People's Joker. An attempt at a joke, I suppose, though what posting a clip from the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure OVAs (I think) is supposed to be funny? This makes me think Vera Drew was one of the writers who spoke with open disdain to Bill Wray. Imagine contributing to the likes of Ren & Stimpy, Mad Magazine, Samauri Jack and many more only to be told, sneeringly, you were an outmoded “old man” whose input was not needed on a project based on something you made major contributions to the original version of. Being told that by some "chick" responsible for the worst DC fan film ever made, one of a group of writers with no care for the original series they were brought on to reboot, who have no passion or interest in producing animation and were only looking for a famous IP to work on for their resumes.

AGP af