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Commander X said:
Nobody is forcing American "adult" animation studios to continually pump out ever-shittier animated sitcoms and "shock" comedies, which invariably just end up being Family Guy and Rick and Morty epigones, or shows about badly drawn anthropomorphic animals finding it hard to "adult" as they work in retail, watched (and logrolled) by no one besides the creator's online friends and butt-kissing Extremely Online clique members, and written by the sort of hack LA writers who think putting in references to how difficult LA traffic can be is hilarious. Or soulless reboots of preexisting IPs that nobody asked for by aforementioned LA hacks.

Consider the "Married...with Children" revival cartoon that was threatened back in '22. Teasers have been released.


Is every sitcom just going to be given the Family Guy clone treatment eventually? Nothing is safe from "stuck" culture. Much like how the leaked R&S reboot features Billy West sounding like he's recording his lines from hospice care, this features Ed O'Neill who is pushing 80, and his voice is especially bad. Again, who asks for these? I doubt there are very many Married…. With Children aficionados who were craving a bland, soulless animated sitcom version of the original. It even has that sort of generic Bojack Horseman/Rick & Morty adjacent modern ugly cartoon sitcom art style. It looks something a bit like a slightly uglier "F is for Family".
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Can you imagine the show's anti feminism being still there, in our current media hellscape that everything is made exclusively for women? The culture itself changed so much. Just working in a mall is more of a dead end job in general than selling women footwear (oh, sorry, it will be just a regular shoe salesman since the idea of debasing yourself to make fat women fit a small size shoes is doubleplusungood). Merely owning a house is impossible for most people, even if they work in actual profitable fields. A show based like Psycho Dad will never be out today, while literally 90% of our media is unironic Psycho Mom.
 
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TVB said:
stop creating garbage and start creating creativity
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Yea here's the problem with that, Creativity can also be offensive, which is why it's not allowed anymore because feels over reals. Also by not being creative it allows you to hamfist whatever political message you want for the 38475386834th time.

Get rid of the over-sensitive pussies plaguing the industry, you'll get your creativity back, but just like vidya, it ain't happening, and if it does, its going to be a SLOOOOOOOOOOOW progress.
 
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TVB said:
If anyone wants to make the animation industry great again, then here's a simple tidbit people should learn here, stop creating garbage and start creating creativity
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Man what stunning insight that I’m sure no one has heard of before.

The only way people can be creative now is either with connections, pitch to networks that let you do whatever, or go indie.

Most executives would greenlight tired old cartoons with either washed up people on bored behind it or those on it who just want it good on their resume.

The only way any creative industry can be great again is ideally kick out every single business major in charge of the companies and put creative people in charge, but that is just a fairy tale.
 
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Celebrate Nite said:
Yea here's the problem with that, Creativity can also be offensive, which is why it's not allowed anymore because feels over reals. Also by not being creative it allows you to hamfist whatever political message you want for the 38475386834th time.

Get rid of the over-sensitive pussies plaguing the industry, you'll get your creativity back, but just like vidya, it ain't happening, and if it does, its going to be a SLOOOOOOOOOOOW progress.
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And that's the thing. Any and everyone working in the industry is lactose against creativity. The media is fully into playing things too safe and by the numbers with, like you said, shoehorned in political messages. That's why there's so much garbage these days
Doctor of Autism said:
Man what stunning insight that I’m sure no one has heard of before.

The only way people can be creative now is either with connections, pitch to networks that let you do whatever, or go indie.

Most executives would greenlight tired old cartoons with either washed up people on bored behind it or those on it who just want it good on their resume.

The only way any creative industry can be great again is ideally kick out every single business major in charge of the companies and put creative people in charge, but that is just a fairy tale.
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Either that, or work at a dead end job nobody would like or try hard to win the lottery
 
Commander X said:
Nobody is forcing American "adult" animation studios to continually pump out ever-shittier animated sitcoms and "shock" comedies, which invariably just end up being Family Guy and Rick and Morty epigones, or shows about badly drawn anthropomorphic animals finding it hard to "adult" as they work in retail, watched (and logrolled) by no one besides the creator's online friends and butt-kissing Extremely Online clique members, and written by the sort of hack LA writers who think putting in references to how difficult LA traffic can be is hilarious. Or soulless reboots of preexisting IPs that nobody asked for by aforementioned LA hacks.
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you'll have to take that complaint up with management. im sure they'll totally listen to you and not have you fired or blacklisted for daring to speak out about such problems like lackluster writing, animation, and concepts. its not like they're the ones banking rolling their entire departments and constantly wanting more of it to be made because they want to be the most successful family guy type animation cause that makes bank.
 
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TVB said:
If anyone wants to make the animation industry great again, then here's a simple tidbit people should learn here, stop creating garbage and start creating creativity
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Sadly creative people are prone to look unfuckable, and creativity is not an inheritable trait.
Doctor of Autism said:
Yeah like a lot of bad animation is mainly due to management and business majors being in charge who want to make money by chasing trends.

I won't be surprised if there are going to be Smiling Friends and Hazbin Hotel ripoffs given their popularity on Adult Swim and Amazon.
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Is there any branch of western animation that isn't absolutely corrupted and hellbent on gatekeeping? To the point they actually share STDs from in-fucking? The whole industry is rotten. The only hope for the field is AI letting individuals do their own work.
 
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wtfNeedSignUp said:
Is there any branch of western animation that isn't absolutely corrupted and hellbent on gatekeeping? To the point they actually share STDs from in-fucking? The whole industry is rotten. The only hope for the field is AI letting individuals do their own work.
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Sadly, the most likely outcome is that AI will be used to somehow make even more uggo shit, on purpose.
 
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wtfNeedSignUp said:
Sadly creative people are prone to look unfuckable, and creativity is not an inheritable trait.

Is there any branch of western animation that isn't absolutely corrupted and hellbent on gatekeeping? To the point they actually share STDs from in-fucking? The whole industry is rotten. The only hope for the field is AI letting individuals do their own work.
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The only branch unfucked is Indie animation, but even that has some drama to it.

Also lol at AI being used for anything creative, people are already making shitty animations with it, and almost all AI looks like complete shit.
 
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Thiletonomics said:
Sadly, the most likely outcome is that AI will be used to somehow make even more uggo shit, on purpose.
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Everything is ugly anyways. Can't make much difference.
Doctor of Autism said:
The only branch unfucked is Indie animation, but even that has some drama to it.

Also lol at AI being used for anything creative, people are already making shitty animations with it, and almost all AI looks like complete shit.
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If looks to me like indie is just as fucked. Relying more on appealing to discord trannies than executives. At best you'd occasionally have the one person passion project that can massively benefit from AI (like the English dubbing in that Swedish show).

Plus AI is only starting, there's plenty of time make sophisticated tool rather than trying to brute force solutions.
 
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One of my friends is an unironic Ben Shapiro superfan so I took advantage of his consoomerism to watch Mr Birchum firsthand.

It's really really bad. Worse than Paradise PD, Brickleberry, and any Boss Baby sequel.

When cartoon reviewtubers say it's the worst animated show of all that's not clickbait it's 100% accurate.

Conservatives ~ why can't we make art?

The art ~

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Sniperwoof said:
One of my friends is an unironic Ben Shapiro superfan so I took advantage of his consoomerism to watch Mr Birchum firsthand.

It's really really bad. Worse than Paradise PD, Brickleberry, and any Boss Baby sequel.

When cartoon reviewtubers say it's the worst animated show of all that's not clickbait it's 100% accurate.

Conservatives ~ why can't we make art?

The art ~

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I tried to watch it out of morbid curiosity and I couldn't make it.

It tries too hard to "trigger the libs" and feels like it constantly nudges for people to laugh at how "Edgy" it is
 
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