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[Papa stink]

I dread to think what zoomers will be referencing in their shows down the line.

Probably just newer anime. The oldest cartoon they'd probably reference is Regular Show because everything else they either didn't watch or didn't hold up because it was made for millennials and not them.

 

[The_Bladder_Splatter]

I dread to think what zoomers will be referencing in their shows down the line.

Mostly elements lifted from safe edgy shows like rick & morty and Hazbin Hotel, maybe we will even begin to see pop satanic stuff for the +12 audience

 

[starborn427614]

Probably just newer anime. The oldest cartoon they'd probably reference is Regular Show because everything else they either didn't watch or didn't hold up because it was made for millennials and not them.

Regular Show makes sense, I always see clips of it making the rounds on twitter.

 

[Starscream's Loyalty]

Guess leaks on that Unicorn Academy caused production to get pushed back. Blessing in disguise imo. They can take out any questionable shit now that Trump and parents are making studios shit their pants. I welcome the discourse it has given to these idiotic companies. My neices will simply have to wait.

 

[Trilby]

Probably just newer anime. The oldest cartoon they'd probably reference is Regular Show because everything else they either didn't watch or didn't hold up because it was made for millennials and not them.

Not a surprise it won't go back before the 2010's.

 

[A Grey Cat]

In slightly less depressing animation. The pilot for star vs the forces of evil when It was first pitched to nick as been found.

What's interesting is apparently early in concept star wasn't an alien or whatever she is from another world...just a girl with an overactive imagination and it was kinda vague if what we see is real or not, the monsters amd magic stuff I mean.

 

[KingLiberty76]

In slightly less depressing animation. The pilot for star vs the forces of evil when It was first pitched to nick as been found.

What's interesting is apparently early in concept star wasn't an alien or whatever she is from another world...just a girl with an overactive imagination and it was kinda vague if what we see is real or not, the monsters amd magic stuff I mean.

I kinda prefer the art style in this compared to the show we got.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

I dread to think what zoomers will be referencing in their shows down the line.

Same references as @Trollblade69 alluded too. Really, Zoomers are 95-2010, given that 2015 was pretty much a death/nostalgia period for animation, Zoomers have the same reference pool that Millennials did. In hindsight, it is kind of horrifying how stagnate culture has become these last 10 years.

 

[Trilby]

Same references as @Trollblade69 alluded too. Really, Zoomers are 95-2010, given that 2015 was pretty much a death/nostalgia period for animation, Zoomers have the same reference pool that Millennials did. In hindsight, it is kind of horrifying how stagnate culture has become these last 10 years.

Sad really. I miss my 1981-90 childhood that wasn't this crap.

 

[starborn427614]

Same references as @Trollblade69 alluded too. Really, Zoomers are 95-2010, given that 2015 was pretty much a death/nostalgia period for animation, Zoomers have the same reference pool that Millennials did. In hindsight, it is kind of horrifying how stagnate culture has become these last 10 years.

Good point. Truth be told, I thought zoomers were a bit further ahead of millennials. Well, I'll buckle in for more Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon references!

 

[Jace on ice]

That Creature Commandos show is the most reddit ass thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

I watched four episodes and every single one involved hordes of "nazis" internet trolls, chuds, and incels being gruesomely gunned down or sliced into pieces as an "ironic" shitty pop song from the 80s plays.

In the episodes I watched I don't think they even killed any criminals, just dozens of people the writers presumably disagree with politically.

James Gunn is a hack and got lucky with Guardians 1.

 

[A Grey Cat]

That Creature Commandos show is the most reddit ass thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

I watched four episodes and every single one involved hordes of "nazis" internet trolls, chuds, and incels being gruesomely gunned down or sliced into pieces as an "ironic" shitty pop song from the 80s plays.

In the episodes I watched I don't think they even killed any criminals, just dozens of people the writers presumably disagree with politically.

James Gunn is a hack and got lucky with Guardians 1.

Thanks for informing me I only saw piceses segmented for youtube shorts and when you have little choice cuts that don't have comments like that it actually makes creature commandos look like it could ge interesting at least.


That's the thing with a lot of modern animation, it feels like bits and and pieces of it is tailor made to he trimed by content "creators " on short video formats in order to fool potential viewers into thinking the actual product isn't chock of the whiny preaching od a bunch if Berkley/calarts diversity hires.


Or as robot chicken once said.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

I watched four episodes and every single one involved hordes of "nazis" internet trolls, chuds, and incels being gruesomely gunned down or sliced into pieces as an "ironic" shitty pop song from the 80s plays.

In the episodes I watched I don't think they even killed any criminals, just dozens of people the writers presumably disagree with politically.

It is bad, terribly paced with little room to do much of anything as only 7 episodes. Each episode builds up a main plot that makes little sense by the end, while intercutting with the character's backstories. Of the group, only Weasel and Nina's stories felt that well paced/written. The others are decent ideas but again, feel incredibly rushed and leave little impact in execution.

G.I. Robot is easily the worst character, but thankfully gets gutted half-way through, which really only adds to making me ask why he was even there to begin with. In saying this, none of the cast really felt like they needed to be there. The Bride, and maybe Nina, are the only character that get fleshed out at all. Every other character gets a story set up only to climax with nothing. Frank is the most egregious as we spend episodes with him only for the end of his story to be a gag death.

Main villain is terrible with a convoluted plot that ends with a Bride "strong woman" moment where the twist is that there isn't one, the initial twist was BS. Main villain then goes down in one shot because even the show finds her disposable.

 

[A Grey Cat]

It is bad, terribly paced with little room to do much of anything as only 7 episodes. Each episode builds up a main plot that makes little sense by the end, while intercutting with the character's backstories. Of the group, only Weasel and Nina's stories felt that well paced/written. The others are decent ideas but again, feel incredibly rushed and leave little impact in execution.

G.I. Robot is easily the worst character, but thankfully gets gutted half-way through, which really only adds to making me ask why he was even there to begin with. In saying this, none of the cast really felt like they needed to be there. The Bride, and maybe Nina, are the only character that get fleshed out at all. Every other character gets a story set up only to climax with nothing. Frank is the most egregious as we spend episodes with him only for the end of his story to be a gag death.

Main villain is terrible with a convoluted plot that ends with a Bride "strong woman" moment where the twist is that there isn't one, the initial twist was BS. Main villain then goes down in one shot because even the show finds her disposable.

I've legit seen fan webcomics featuring characters like z list batman villian orca (yes really, created by Larry hamma of 90s wolverine, gi Joe, and venom fame and Scott macdanile of the Phil urich green goblin, daredevil dead man's hand, and amalgam comic's assassins fame) that would make for better miniseries or official comics than the crap dc has shilled out in recent years. Be it in cartoon or comic for...cartoons and comics....why does that.

Fucking youtube it's the entire first season of kablam for context.

 

[Cave Fisher]

Same references as @Trollblade69 alluded too. Really, Zoomers are 95-2010, given that 2015 was pretty much a death/nostalgia period for animation, Zoomers have the same reference pool that Millennials did. In hindsight, it is kind of horrifying how stagnate culture has become these last 10 years.

Older Gen z and millennial nostalgia/references in general overlap quite a bit more than what one would actually expect due to media stagnation and the internet, as well as things like Boomerang, so I'll be optimistic and hope that actual kids who actually grow up reference shows they like, instead of just autistic manchildren piggybacking off of Gravity Falls and Avatar's success for the rest of time like how Owl House was trying to.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

In slightly less depressing animation. The pilot for star vs the forces of evil when It was first pitched to nick as been found.

What's interesting is apparently early in concept star wasn't an alien or whatever she is from another world...just a girl with an overactive imagination and it was kinda vague if what we see is real or not, the monsters amd magic stuff I mean.

This pilot is weirdly reminiscent of how High Guardian Spice's pitch went in how generic it is and how conflict is practically non-existent, and yet the idea of an overactive imaginative girl who deluded herself into thinking she's a magical girl could've made for some chuckle-worthy shorts. I think that's the key here, this probably should've just been a series of shorts.

Also I'm kinda glad Grey DeLisle didn't become the final voice for Star, not because she's everywhere, it's just because something about her attempt at being le-quirky is cringe here. Eden Sher should be in more voicework, I swear.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

G.I. Robot is easily the worst character, but thankfully gets gutted half-way through, which really only adds to making me ask why he was even there to begin with.

So people can use gifs of him on twitter to 'dunk' on people they don't like.

Literally all discussion of this show I've seen is just posting the same few clips of just 'funny thing happened' rather than anything about the show's plot and characters.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

So people can use gifs of him on twitter to 'dunk' on people they don't like.

Literally all discussion of this show I've seen is just posting the same few clips of just 'funny thing happened' rather than anything about the show's plot and characters.

Counter argument

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

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Musk's face kills me.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

I've legit seen fan webcomics featuring characters like z list batman villian orca (yes really, created by Larry hamma of 90s wolverine, gi Joe, and venom fame and Scott macdanile of the Phil urich green goblin, daredevil dead man's hand, and amalgam comic's assassins fame) that would make for better miniseries or official comics than the crap dc has shilled out in recent years.

Can't disagree.

The sad part about Creature Commandos is that there were some actual good animations made for them beforehand that came bundled with one of DC's animated features.

In general DC just needs to stop trying to make Suicide Squad a thing, as even the new Creature Commando is just more Suicide Squad. DC has a million more interesting groups and properties outside of their weird edgelord groups. Even if they wanted to go weird, they got stuff like Justice League International, Doom Patrol and Metal Men. Really, just take any group from Brave & The Bold or the DC Nation shorts, and you'd have gold.