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You nailed all but one.
the only reason I couldn't nail the magical girl one is because it was too vague. the only one I can think of is maybe
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Nurse Angel Ririka SOS, which apparently did get an Italian dub. starts off like any other magical girl show, but then it gets dark, like you said
 
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Nurse Angel Ririka SOS, which apparently did get an Italian dub. starts off like any other magical girl show, but then it gets dark, like you said
It's hard to explain what I meant with dark,but I it was more of gloomy and had a different artstyle, if not having some kind of dreamlike atmosphere.
Thinking about it, I start to even doubt it was a magical girl show to even begin with.
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Now my headcanon is that they all called him HIM because they were mocking his preferred pronouns
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It's crazy that this stuff was so common and so on point in mainstream media - but then the entire populace that grew up on it just developed collective amnesia or decided it was silly nonsense instead of good writing. Also curious that of all the villains and monsters fags claimed for themselves as representation, they never mention HIM, iirc.
 
It's hard to explain what I meant with dark,but I it was more of gloomy and had a different artstyle, if not having some kind of dreamlike atmosphere.
Thinking about it, I start to even doubt it was a magical girl show to even begin with.
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La Seine no Hoshi? This is the only other one I can think of that matches your description a bit
 
Poor Craig. First, he had to live through the awful 2016 reboot, now this hyper-ironic current_year laughingstock. That man already perpetually looks like he's got one foot in the grave, he could certainly go without one of his creations getting bastardized again. I obviously have no proof for this, but I feel that he has some warm regards towards whoever cancelled the adaptation.
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You know, the more I think about media corporations and copyright, the more dreary the idea of giving up the product of your enthusiasm, creativity and passion to the corpo machine for them to turn into a bland, recyclable, endlessly milkable commodity feels. I can't call myself a fan of cartoons like Hazbin Hotel or Digital Circus, but if projects like them help pave the way for more professional indie animation (and art projects in general), then I'm all for it.
"And as if it wasn't bad enough that he was born retarded and Jewish, he was also an alcoholic."
 
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I really want to believe it was Genndy who leaked that trailer as revenge for all the times his proposed IPs were rejected.
At this point it might as well be a joint effort between him, Craig and Lauren with how the industry nepos tried to bury all three in favor of a decade of "blob heads with beanmouths and pride flags"
 
I know this is the thread for western cartoons but I also had memories of this was this dark and depressing spin on magical girls. It's not madoka magica, tho it's was similar, I guess? I genuinely struggle to remember anything about this one, aside of this bare description of it. Probably tho seeing any screeshot of it would help me remember it.
This is so vague that you might as well just look up a list of magical girl shows and see if any of the girls shown ring a bell for you.
 
See if we were talking 90s tas mad love harley quinn, that would make sense. I could see that as part of that afformenentioned crossover Craig wanted to do be it in comic or toon form.


But unfortunately THAT version of harley is for all intents and purposes dead and buried. Instead it'd be 2016 ppgs being fangirls of 2015 onwards harley quinn. The deadpool ripoff who thinks "lol sex! lol pet poop funny! Lol I so wanna bone my bestie posion ivy!"

(No seriously all that happened in the Jimmy palmiotti/Amanda conner version of harley and was the basis for the God awful show)
Can Exterminatus be a real thing? Please?
 
See if we were talking 90s tas mad love harley quinn, that would make sense. I could see that as part of that afformenentioned crossover Craig wanted to do be it in comic or toon form.


But unfortunately THAT version of harley is for all intents and purposes dead and buried. Instead it'd be 2016 ppgs being fangirls of 2015 onwards harley quinn. The deadpool ripoff who thinks "lol sex! lol pet poop funny! Lol I so wanna bone my bestie posion ivy!"
I'll never forgive them for what they did to my crazy waifu. They character assassinated the best new Batman character within the span of a decade and now she's being relegated to a fart fetish comic.

...what the fuck.
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I'll never forgive them for what they did to my crazy waifu. They character assassinated the best new Batman character within the span of a decade and now she's being relegated to a fart fetish comic.
Warner bros is leagues more incomptetent than disney.
For the sake of brand recognition and shit they have been cannibalizing each and every property they own birthing failure after failure.
Stuff in the likes of Looney toons back in action and Space jam where charming at first, their costant repeat of this, alongside poor quality has quickly turned it all into festering slop.

Harley is an interesting case because she is a charactert hat barely worked in the forst place, when she was first introduced and then nobody has ever really figured out what to do with the character, only instead of just not using her anymore, wb has instead opted to keep trying to rehash the character multiple times because of her original popularity, each time leading to an increasingly more spectacular failure than the previous.
The fart fetish comic just another step in this natural process of degeneration, much like your velma, your teen titans go and loonatics unleashed.
 
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Poor Craig. First, he had to live through the awful 2016 reboot, now this hyper-ironic current_year laughingstock. That man already perpetually looks like he's got one foot in the grave, he could certainly go without one of his creations getting bastardized again. I obviously have no proof for this, but I feel that he has some warm regards towards whoever cancelled the adaptation.
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You know, the more I think about media corporations and copyright, the more dreary the idea of giving up the product of your enthusiasm, creativity and passion to the corpo machine for them to turn into a bland, recyclable, endlessly milkable commodity feels. I can't call myself a fan of cartoons like Hazbin Hotel or Digital Circus, but if projects like them help pave the way for more professional indie animation (and art projects in general), then I'm all for it.
McCracken only went with the later PPG reboot because he'd proposed like a dozen or so original projects only to have them turned down - you'd think being Mr. Powerpuff Girls would give him clout but nope. Even GT had to toil in the 3D mines and such for years and could barely get the projects like Unicorn Warriors he wanted made.
 
And Adult Swim absolutely fucked him over too, just like they did for Andy Merrill, Carey Means, and various other people.
how?
Can this trend of twerking in children’s cartoons fucking die already? I did not need to see this blob lady throwing it back in her daughter’s face!
brown people love thick women. until brown people vanish they'll keep shoving thic ladies into goyslop.
I've yet to see a western animation show actually manage to reach me.
i mean Moral Oral season 3 is notorious for how it stopped being a "comedy" and went full on drama from the last 3 episodes of season 2 until the show ended.
That show never gets the love wide recognition it deserves;
not to rain on the parade but most people enjoyed the first 3 seasons when it was more formulaic and silly, once the clones die and Brock leaves the show becomes a soap opera. also pissed they never animated "movie night"
Maybe this is a really obvious question to ask, but given that literally all we are getting nowadays in terms of mainstream entertainment are remakes and adaptations of popular pre-existing properties... Why is everybody seemingly so fucking bad at it?

Like, all the groundwork has already been laid. The hard work's been done. Just look at what they did and then do that again.

Just put the fries in the fucking bag, bro.
because 99% of the time the person making the show doesn't want to make that show but wants to make their own thing so they try to do that instead of making their own shit. This isn't even a new problem, it happened all the time, especially when adapting novels or existing IP. Its why former TV writer GRR martin made sure to quiz anyone that tried asking for permission to adapt ASOIAF and only those that got the correct answers got a shot.

Like imagine one day at your job your boss says "you now have to remake robotech for a modern audience" and you can't quit either so you're forced to do this for a couple years.
Has there ever been any live action adaptation thats been good? Its so pointless to me. If I wanted something live action I wouldn't be watching fucking cartoons.
the Japs usually make great ones. plenty of people prefer the live action death note to the anime because of the ending.
 
the Japs usually make great ones. plenty of people prefer the live action death note to the anime because of the ending.
Death note's second half was butchered in the cartoon, there's not sugarcoating over it and it's no wonder why people either prefer the ending of the movie or tell you to watch the first half and read the second.
I've yet to see a western animation show actually manage to reach me
I would suggest you to try looking at Corto Maltese, it's an animated series adapted from a 60s visual novel that may scratch someo fo your itches.
Other than that I suggest you to maybe try Dragon hunters if you like fantasy settings.
If you wanna see something cute, short and surreal there's the Stop motion series Mio & Mao that is just 2 clay cats exploring the world but extremely creative due to how they animated it.
 
All I think of is how the Beavis and Butthead movie was going to be live action. What a disaster that would've been.
It would have 100% worked if they casted it well, a garbage sitcom from the early 90s was able to find two random assholes for a 2 minute joke for one episode of a show who literally are those exact characters. It could have easily worked.
It’s been said before, but what CW tried to do with the failed PPG live action reboot is no different with what they tried to do with Riverdale by making the Archie characters dark, gloomy and way too gay for the sake of checking off boxes and not adding anything new or original to the “updated” story.

Same thing with what they did to Nancy Drew on trying to turn her into a “#girlboss” detective.
thats sort of reddits take too, like the pilot to riverdale also seemed like it played it straight but was clearly planning on taking the piss out of the entire premise at every attempt they could make.

Diablo Cody apparently spent most of her post Juno career doing "satire" like that
 
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