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Trilby said:
Good examples (though with The Jungle Book, I wish they did more with the wolves but that was a minor quibble).
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I think if I had posted Gary Oldman's big number from Quest for Camelot it would have made the point clearer, but then again, one bad number from a Disney ripoff film is enough.

Nowadays everybody seems to have forgotten the havoc Disney wreaked on animation with that godforsaken formula in favor of complaining about the trend of CGI films that DreamWorks started. I'm pretty sure that back in the day, though, it was common to complain about Disney and its many ripoffs in the animation community.

Though it's apparently apocryphal, the story of how Milton Knight tried to pitch an idea for an animated film to Warner Bros. and got rejected because they thought cartoony animation wouldn't work for a film says something.

I can't have enough good things to say about Disney during Walt's era, though. Walt gave us a ton of great shorts:





And the first several Disney films are outright masterpieces, I feel. Pinocchio and Fantasia are high-water marks for animated films.

Post-Walt, however, most of the really good Disney stuff has been in the TV division...
 
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Steamboat_Bill said:
Though it's apparently apocryphal, the story of how Milton Knight tried to pitch an idea for an animated film to Warner Bros. and got rejected because they thought cartoony animation wouldn't work for a film says something.
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Milton Knight is an unsung hero (and he hates Sonic)!

I can't have enough good things to say about Disney during Walt's era, though. Walt gave us a ton of great shorts:





And the first several Disney films are outright masterpieces, I feel. Pinocchio and Fantasia are high-water marks for animated films.
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They are, this was all perfect!

Post-Walt, however, most of the really good Disney stuff has been in the TV division...
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Why fans of Darkwing Duck will never let it down that was their favorite!
 
Steamboat_Bill said:
Though it's apparently apocryphal, the story of how Milton Knight tried to pitch an idea for an animated film to Warner Bros. and got rejected because they thought cartoony animation wouldn't work for a film says something.
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And this was the company that made Looney Tunes. Thanks WB.

At least that era's over now. And I'm glad I personally didn't put up with much of it.
 
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Jewelsmakerguy said:
And this was the company that made Looney Tunes. Thanks WB.

At least that era's over now. And I'm glad I personally didn't put up with much of it.
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The TV animation division back then, like Disney's, often produced better work than the feature film division. Sad that Pokemon eventually torpedoed the WB's TV animation division into practically nothing, but it was brilliant while it lasted. Take Freakazoid, for example.


This was definitely the most brilliant and consistent out of all the WB shows of the 90s. Unlike Pinky and the Brain, there was no subpar spinoff to tarnish its name; unlike Tiny Toons, it wasn't uneven; and unlike Animaniacs it didn't decline in quality as it went on (though I admit I prefer the first season to the second).

(I should also mention that I found out Bob Camp, one of the great unsung men of animation, does commissions for people these days. I've been trying to get one, but things get in the way...)
 
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I've been waiting on this forever. And it's finally here.

Kahlil Gibran's, The Prophet. One of my favorite literary works of all time.

 
So I've been watching Avatar: The Last Airbender recently.
I like it! It's not perfect or anything, but it's a fun little show with cool fight scenes and neato worldbuilding.
 
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Since it's finally snowing where I am, I decided that I would post this classic Russian animated film. This thread doesn't have to be all American animation, you know...

 
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Reminded myself of the wild, crazy nature of student films with this one in particular.

Unknown to me when I first watched this as filler on Showtime as a kid, the film managed to win the guy the Oscar for Best Animated Short at the time! Not bad for such a silly little short!

A few years later he made this...
 
The Disney vs Pixar vs DreamWorks thing is dumb as fuck. When the hell did people get so uppity about animation studios of all things?
Like seriously.

“That movie was amazing/OK/horrible by Universal standards.”

Said no one ever.
 
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Anyone ready for a trip to the Uncanny Valley?

I don't know if anyone remembers this, there was a series of shorts that used to air on Disney's One Saturday Morning known as "Mrs. Munger's Class." It took actual yearbook photos from the 70s, and digitally manipulated their facial features to make it look as if they were talking. It was fairly short-lived because of a lawsuit filed by some of the students against Disney for not having proper permission to use the their likenesses. Some of the students even declared it as racist.

Here's a clip:
 
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MalWart said:
Anyone ready for a trip to the Uncanny Valley?

I don't know if anyone remembers this, there was a series of shorts that used to air on Disney's One Saturday Morning known as "Mrs. Munger's Class." It took actual yearbook photos from the 70s, and digitally manipulated their facial features to make it look as if they were talking. It was fairly short-lived because of a lawsuit filed by some of the students against Disney for not having proper permission to use the their likenesses. Some of the students even declared it as racist.

Here's a clip:
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The one time "Fair Use" was not on Disney's side! Of course it didn't help that particular classroom pic they used happened to be a "Special Ed" class I think. Reading that article, I guess the thought at the time was that this was a 20 year old photo and nobody in it would even care to know their likeness was being manipulated for a crappy Saturday morning snippet. Thank god the teacher was still around to testify with his former students.
 
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