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Vyrsa Inglebard said:
Dr. N!Godatu. Created by M. K. Brown and starring Julie Payne as the eponymous doctor
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Yep, someone else had a chance at fame on a national scale but Matt Groening took that for himself. Recently picked up a copy of M.K. Brown's book showcasing her work from 1970 to 2010.
 
This time of year always makes me think back to watching halloween specials on nick and cn a lifetime ago. Shame they're a bit of a lost art these days. Great pumpkin Charlie brown is like the only one known outside normie circles aside maybe garfields halloween adventure. 🎃
 
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Watching older SpongeBob makes it easy to see it's under the sea.

Watching newer SpongeBob makes it easy to forget it's underwater.

(Stopped watching the show in the '00s when the good show ended.)
 
Warai Otoko said:
I watched Splinter Cell: Deathwatch. It was good.
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I watched it too. I'm so glad we got a cool innovative story where the fan-fave protagonist gets sidelined into a supporting character/borderline cameo in his own franchise to let some diverse woman take center stage. Star Wars, The Witcher and the later John Wick movies just weren't enough of this formula for me.

Also Liev Schrieber doesn't hold a candle to Michael Ironside as the voice of Fisher. Dude sounds like a pansywaisted little bitch by comparison.
 
Uncle Phil said:
I watched it too. I'm so glad we got a cool innovative story where the fan-fave protagonist gets sidelined into a supporting character/borderline cameo in his own franchise to let some diverse woman take center stage. Star Wars, The Witcher and the later John Wick movies just weren't enough of this formula for me.

Also Liev Schrieber doesn't hold a candle to Michael Ironside as the voice of Fisher. Dude sounds like a pansywaisted little bitch by comparison.
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The action is delegated to Sam Fisher after the first episode. The negress is more like a plot device in order to pull back Fisher from "retirement", she is barely relevant to the story otherwise.
 
Elizabeth Ito of Netflix's City of Ghosts is losing it on Twitter, detailing failures of the animation industry to not capitalize on the younger generation having a higher amount of people looking for animated content. She is also begging for a job. [Screenshots taken from /co/]
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Basic Blond Boy said:
Elizabeth Ito of Netflix's City of Ghosts is losing it on Twitter, detailing failures of the animation industry to not capitalize on the younger generation having a higher amount of people looking for animated content. She is also begging for a job. [Screenshots taken from /co/]
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How do young people get into animation?
Start an inde animation YouTube channel and start making shit, hope you get an audience or the attention of Amazon or Netflix.
 
Basic Blond Boy said:
Elizabeth Ito of Netflix's City of Ghosts is losing it on Twitter, detailing failures of the animation industry to not capitalize on the younger generation having a higher amount of people looking for animated content. She is also begging for a job. [Screenshots taken from /co/]
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>"Gen Z wants more animation and less sex"
>shows Steven Universe and a show where Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy are lesbians
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Ever see Dexter's Lab around the year 2000? Show was alright, with pretty funny moments (like "omelette du fromage"). Then sometime around the early '00s, there was a sudden change in the background art to make it flat and ugly. Characters' voices changed a little. Also the plots became unfunny and a chore to get through. Like that very first of the new episodes was about some robots from the lab who went on a long journey to find freedom or something like that. Not long after the new changes, I stopped watching it.
 
Fucking Kpop Demon Hunters is back. This piece of slop didn't make enough money, I guess. Today's the day tho for the ghosts to come home and hopefully for history to be made.

Regardless of how it turns out storyewise, Soy Frankelda already belongs in the Mount Rushmore of Latin American animation simply on a technical level, for it is the first animated feature film fully animated in Mexico. Today, celebrating perhaps the jolliest of funerals I would like you to meet (in case you mayn't know them) those we are imo belong forever in glory even if seemingly lost in memory.

Welcome, to Part 3.

Part 1: Cartoon Network: The cousins south of the border.
Part 2: Little victories.
Part 2.5: I am Frankelda (cope and sneed version).

The Mount Rushmore of Latin American animation (even if some so called aficionados of la patria grande myth may cringe for me using an American monument to define it) always has to start with Quirino Cristiani's El Apostol (1917). While the movie may be lost, it is the beginning of the industry for the region and while it may be lost, we know is good. It is a political satire about then president Hipolito Yrigoyen seeking to discuss politics with the Greek pantheon and nuking Buenos Aires in the process. This film was destroyed during a fire in 1926 and never saw distribution outside of Buenos Aires. This one will be the only out of all of listed examples that gets in solely on the virtue of being a first, because other wise I would have to massively handicap the list to absolute dreck like Mexico's Los Tres Reyes Magos (1976) or more objectively shit ones like Peru's Piratas en el Callao (2005) or Colombia's Bolivar el Heroe (2003). The last one was so bad that it became lost media for a decade and bringing it up was akin to attacking national pride. Is up in YouTube.

I've brought up the Legend Quest franchise before, it has 7 movies total and a show. This is my bias showing but that success has less to do with them being good and more with them being made by an animation studio that brags about cutting corners. Mexico's Anima Studios is both famous and infamous, beloved and mocked and imo, their stuff rarely graduates from charming territory. If anything post the Netflix deal they took the charming style out of the equation. The success definetly has to do with how aggresively Mexican the first movies were and in order to appeal to international audiences they toned down while keeping the grimacing. In fact I call it Legend Quest by default for this reason.

The true contenders come almost a century later from a somehow unexpected place and back-to-back-to-back. Clearly showing my bias here, I snubbed Mexicans in favour of porteño representation. We start with the least publicized, Walter Tournier's Selkirk, El Verdadero Robinso Crusoe (2012). Tournier, a veteran of animation and documentaries in Uruguay, helmed the first stop-motion feature film in the history of his country (well, this was a Uruguayan, Argentinian and Chilean co-production but not less impressive) serving as a loose, comedic account of the real life story of Alexander Selkirk, as the movie itself so evidently says, the inspiration for Robinson Crusoe. I learned of this movie while it was airing a morning I was getting hammered with tequila in... Tequila of all places. You can get this one in Disney+. It has two big problems: its name is a mouthful in Spanish but they gave it the super generic 7 Seas Pirates for English release and the more obvious problems, this movie was released the same year as Aardman's Pirates! Band of Misfits. It must have been the tequila, but it was jarring finding out in real time they are different movies.

We remain in Uruguay but this time in a co-production with Colombia for Alfredo Sordeguit's Anina (2013). Based of a children's book series, it is a short but sweet story narrated by a girl endlessly bullied because her name is a triple palindrome (Anina Yatay Salas). One day she had enough and gets a Roald Dahl tier punishment alongside her biggest bully. This movie actually received support in international screenings and Uruguay sent it for the Oscars (where it was rejected). At least relatively speaking, this is the most well-known out of all the movies I'm listing and the most available as you can find it in Tubi.

To close 2013, we got Juan Jose Campanella's Metegol (also known as Futbolin, Underdogs, Unbeateables, Foosball, because trying to translate Spanish speaking movies to English is too hard). Ok, maybe I lied. This one is the best known out all and for good reason. A Spain and Argentina co-production in 3D that doesn't look bad at all, it tells a story everyone that talks Spanish can get behind (because it has soccer in it). It isn't a particularly groundbreaking concept (group of losers get challenged by rich prick and are aided by extraordinary circumstances) but it has heart and living football table figures. To this day people quote it and unironically. Minor fun fact: this movie has like five different dubs in Spanish alone and only the two originals (Castilian Spanish and Argentinian Spanish) are worth shit, the Mexican dub was so generic the director complained to Cartoon Network.

Well, I'll finally give Mexico its flowers. Y'see, the most legendary animator Mexico has seen isn't Jorge Gutierrez. The man deserves all the praise he gets but there's one guy that more people should get to know. Carlos Carrera, patron saint of all projects that cooked for too long. This man is responsible for El Heroe (1994) winner of the Palm D' Or, this project took 4 years to complete and it is a work of art. Well, Carrera didn't learn and he made Ana y Bruno (2018) a movie that spent 13 years in development and required sending it to India for completion. This movie was made by the same studio that made Legend Quest and without spoiling it is the most twisted take you might see on imaginary friends that is appropriate for all ages. I love this movie even though it isn't perfect. Those 13 years don't show in the animation but they show everywhere else, like how Bruno changes voices mid movie or how you'll know when they outsourced the animation. But I love it wrinkles and all. My biggest regret was not telling Carrera how great he was when I had him in front of me.

And that brings us to today. Best of luck to Soy Frankelda, the Ambriz bros and all of Cinema Fantasma. See you in Amazon Prime in 4 years.
 
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