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BiggestKai said:
Not animation because AstroCity's only a comic(and may it stay that way), but I've been rereading it and GOD DAMN look at that art
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I'd like to gush about the Confessor and Astrocity's art some more. He just looks so good, cross between Spawn and Batman at their finest, the shining cross, his glowing eyes, even his text bubbles look great.
Just looking at it makes me want to pick up a pencil again.
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Fuck it, we ballin, Shrek 5’s original plot just got more details leaked:
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Is it surprising the film went from being released this summer to next year? Apparently lots of animation work has already been done and they are pivoting midway through production - seemingly getting rid of the real world element, which graciously was fully animated even if labeled as “real world.”

Also, Universal Ride isn’t cannon now I guess since how did Farquaad’s ghost terrorize them if he isn’t dead?
 
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Shrek 5 should just take the tropes Disney uses over and over nowadays and mock the hell out of them like the first one did. The cookie cutter "adorkable" female protagonist, the hatred of love interests, the generational trauma, the awful villains. There's plenty of new cliches to work with, it would take the franchise back to its roots, and Disney's reputation hasn't exactly improved since then it's not like they would tick people off.
 
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Scientifically Inaccurate said:
Shrek 5 should just taken the tropes Disney uses over and over nowadays and mock the hell out of them like the first one did. The cookie cutter "adorkable" female protagonist, the hatred of love interests, the generational trauma, the awful villains. There's plenty of new cliches to work with, it would take the franchise back to its roots, and Disney's reputation hasn't exactly improved since then it's not like they would tick people off.
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Unfortunately that would have to be written by someone with life in their eyes, so it'd never happen.
 
Ultraman Orb Dark said:
Another Cartoon Cartoon pilot dropped.
Also, whoever was in charge of the thumbnail really needed to think twice about the screenshot they used.
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This looks like rainbow covered vomit, and its raping my eyes, someone help me a french woman is raping my eyes. I jest, but this looks like everything from bobbypills, ie: french slop. But at least its not made by some weird porn drawing tumblrista like the last one
 
Ultraman Orb Dark said:
Another Cartoon Cartoon pilot dropped.
Also, whoever was in charge of the thumbnail really needed to think twice about the screenshot they used.
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Are there any up coming cartoons that actually have a nice art style? And whose humour evolves past 'exaggerated motion for the sake of exaggerated motion'?

Also, does it count as a meta joke that all the signs of her friend being possessed is the same shit she and every other character do because they all act in the same ping-pong-ball of personality manner?

Basic Blond Boy said:
Fuck it, we ballin, Shrek 5’s original plot just got more details leaked:
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Is it surprising the film went from being released this summer to next year? Apparently lots of animation work has already been done and they are pivoting midway through production - seemingly getting rid of the real world element, which graciously was fully animated even if labeled as “real world.”

Also, Universal Ride isn’t cannon now I guess since how did Farquaad’s ghost terrorize them if he isn’t dead?
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What is even the point of sending Shrek to the real world? Like, it's already a tired and boring plot trope to begin with, but you don't even have the fish-out-of-water or culture shock element that said trope revolves around. The joke of Shrek's setting is that it's basically the real world but translated through Fairy Tale aesthetics, turning cable television into a magic mirror or cars into magic carriages.
 
TheAmbiguousLurker said:
What is even the point of sending Shrek to the real world? Like, it's already a tired and boring plot trope to begin with, but you don't even have the fish-out-of-water or culture shock element that said trope revolves around. The joke of Shrek's setting is that it's basically the real world but translated through Fairy Tale aesthetics, turning cable television into a magic mirror or cars into magic carriages.
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Is it because the original version was going to include some sort of Trump stand-in as the movie's actual antagonist, but Dreamworks has to drop that plot?
 
Vyse Inglebard said:
Oh hai bootleg Luz from the Owl House.
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So racist to assume that all teenage girls with an interest in the occult look the same.
TheAmbiguousLurker said:
Are there any up coming cartoons that actually have a nice art style? And whose humour evolves past 'exaggerated motion for the sake of exaggerated motion'?
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At the very least, the humor has better timing and buildup than IScream. Not saying it's good, but still.
Thiletonomics said:
Is it because the original version was going to include some sort of Trump stand-in as the movie's actual antagonist, but Dreamworks has to drop that plot?
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Just imagine if the final product just makes Farquaad's son the Trump stand-in who wants to Make Far Far Away Great Again (MFFAGA).
 
Basic Blond Boy said:
Also, Universal Ride isn’t cannon now I guess since how did Farquaad’s ghost terrorize them if he isn’t dead?
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I do not believe this reddit "leak" because there is no way in hell they'd decanonize the universal ride since it's a special feature extra mini movie in a lot of copies of shrek.
 
more movie reviews w/my toddler. She only wanted to watch Kiki's Delivery Service and The Aristocats for the last month and suddenly asked, "New movie?" a few days ago.

Kiki's Delivery Service (1989): 10/10
No notes. Perfect movie. English dub sucks but my toddler WILL NOT listen to Japanese. (Based?) Not western so I won't analyze it.

The Aristocats (1970): 9/10
I've watched this movie far too much by now to have much to say. Edgar is a bumbling idiot, which makes him the perfect villain in such a simple story. He's too stupid to be scary and makes for the greatest animated slapstick comedy. Wasn't able to find a VHS rip so I had to settle with the Blu-Ray upscale that butchered the Xerox'd line art and muddied everything. I want to slap whoever made that decision. Anyway Abigail, Amelia, and Uncle Waldo are my favs.

Shrek (2001): 9/10
Toddler almost made it but tapped out in the last 15 minutes. I think it still holds up but I'm biased. I saw it in theaters. Some of the humans outside of the main cast look uncanny and the lip-syncing is off sometimes. Dreamworks cut corners for certain animation sequences and sometimes the scenes feel empty, but whatevs. Was a silly movie and a bit naughty for the adults without going too far. I think it aged well. Especially the scene where Shrek and Donkey go to save Fiona.

Ice Age (2002): 9/10
Toddler sat through the whole movie and shrieked at the exciting adventure parts. She loves babies, so extra points from her. Blue Sky put all their love and heart into this movie and you can see it. They love showing off their tech. Toddler seemed to dislike the lady sloths in the "hot tub" scene (they are pretty creepy looking lmao). I forgot what the sequels are like. Again, another movie that aged well. I miss Blue Sky. ;__;

Zootopia (2016): 6/10
I think it's okay if you don't think too hard about how the world works. It tries to be so much but its reach exceeds its grasp. I don't like the element of celebrity worship. I don't like the general attitude of shitting on rural communities. I don't like the overall allegory, but if you're a kid it's just a story about animals and not a statement about humans. Much of the dialog is already dated and I don't think the script aged well. At least the characters don't word vomit. Toddler seemed to like it but didn't scream in excitement. Funny, I enjoyed the Godfather references much more this time around than when I first watched it. Sure it looks nice, but idk... I don't care much for it.

The Super Mario Movie (2023): 9/10
Toddler wanted to watch this one again right after it finished. She only has seen me play Mario Kart 8 but she really likes the characters. The worst part of this movie is the voice acting. I think Chris Pratt and Charlie Day actually do great jobs as Mario and Luigi. Jack Black as Bowser gets less grating on the 5th watch. But it's colorful and the characters are round/squishy, cute, and recognizable. It is fun. I think Peach's VA could have done better bc her tone doesn't match what is being said and the animation does the heavy lifting for her emotions. I wanna watch in Japanese some day. I actually don't mind watching the movie over and over.

Both Shrek and Ice Age have disgruntled MCs and I like that. Many current era movies have nice and/or quirky MCs and it makes them too perfect without anything to work toward or reveal to the audience. The struggle with nice MCs seems to be becoming crestfallen and sad. But these "uglier," meaner MCs have a more human appeal cuz they are allowed a greater range of emotions and the narrative doesn't force them to behave. Really activates my almonds.
 
Not sure if this is the correct thread for this, but there's a vore/inflation/feederist channel on Youtube that reposts vore content from other creators that has been up for at least eight months. The first spoilered video is the one that was recommended to me:


Channel description:

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Translation:
"Channel created for lovers of vore or other fetishes...My other channel was deleted, that's why I made this one.If I see a hateful comment that isn't even worth making, I'll delete it.Enjoy the content I upload~ (also giving credit to the original artists.)"

I'm not exactly sure how to check age restriction on Youtube but I was never prompted and there wasn't any warnings in the description of any of the videos I checked.
 
Castoreum said:
Zootopia (2016): 6/10
I think it's okay if you don't think too hard about how the world works. It tries to be so much but its reach exceeds its grasp. I don't like the element of celebrity worship. I don't like the general attitude of shitting on rural communities. I don't like the overall allegory, but if you're a kid it's just a story about animals and not a statement about humans. Much of the dialog is already dated and I don't think the script aged well. At least the characters don't word vomit. Toddler seemed to like it but didn't scream in excitement. Funny, I enjoyed the Godfather references much more this time around than when I first watched it. Sure it looks nice, but idk... I don't care much for it.
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You should try the sequel. Snappier, less downtime. The writing is better too but that's just my opinion.
 
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