What are some of your "warning sign" bands? - When you hear someone says they like X band then it's time to ask for the check.

I listen to classical for the only legitimate reason that exists: to get questions right while watching University Challenge.

Other than that, the only thing I can think of that hasn't been mentioned a thousand times are Clutch and QotSA. I've met dozens of people that love them and to a person they've all been incredible douchebags with terrible taste in music.
 
Sublime always sucked, Bradley Nowell joining Club 27 (ok he was actually 28 ) was the only reason they became popular,
This is true, but they were popular on the underground scene before that. But every 90s band had it's brown label knock off, even Sublime. Chicks who like No Doubt and/or Gwen Stefani were on the haircut -> hoodie -> lesbian until graduation expressway.
 
Anyone who listens to rap, 'punk' or pop. It's all terrible.

Worse than that are the people who say "I listen to anything" usually followed by a "except...". If anyone says they like all music except heavy/death metal, usually knows nothing about music except pop, rap, garage (and all of the other made-up sub genres like garage, bashment, house etc).

Anyone who talks to me about any sub-sub-genre of music that sounds made up. Shoe-gaze, crab-metal, Grunge-house, upside-down-cat-fiddling-bong-twerk and bullshit like that. Fuck off you autistic fuck. MATI
 
Anyone who listens to rap, 'punk' or pop. It's all terrible.
Anyone over about 25 who still listens to Top 40 chart pop music* is extremely suspect. Either a severe case of arrested development or a sexual interest in teenagers.

There is good rap music out there, but not very much of it, especially since about 2010.

I work with a lot of creatives. I try to give most kinds of music a shot and gain an appreciation or respect for it, even if I don't personally enjoy it. I would rather nail my feet to the floor than listen to jazz, for example, but I do understand why people who like it, like it, and I don't think it's bad music. But Punk. I've tried for the best part of three decades to "get" punk. I've listened to a lot of it. I've talked to and worked with a lot of punk fans and musicians. I've spent 25 years trying to gaslight myself into thinking punk music has merit, or at least has done at some point. But it's time to admit that the Emperor has no clothes, and that punk is, and always has been, fucking terrible. From the New York Dolls to now, it all sounds the same, and it all sounds really bad. I can't think of a single kind of music other than punk that hasn't evolved, at all, in the last 45 years, but punk hasn't at all. There is no innovation, no creativity, no reason to listen to one punk band rather than another. And even that wouldn't be too bad if it weren't for the way punk fans think it's high art. It's not, it's simple music played by bad musicians for, there's really no other word that fits here, posers. Punk isn't music to listen to so much as it is music to be seen to listen to. There's this revolting culture around it that goes on about it being "authentic" when the Sex Pistols were literally a scam dreamed up by Malcolm McLaren, an avaricious Jew from an obscenely wealthy family to empty the pockets of stupid teenagers who thought they were being rebellious and countercultural by buying horrible cheaply-made records by talentless musicians hand-picked for stupidity and lack of skill. It's one of the most successful scams in modern history, 45 years on and people, many of them with advanced degrees from good universities, are still falling for it. Punk sucks. It's a breathtakingly cynical genre made as cheaply and with as little care and talent as possible and sold as rebellion, like buying a Che Guevara t-shirt from Ali Express. If you like punk, I'm afraid to tell you that the Emperor is in fact naked and you are a rube.


*As in chart pop music that is still coming out. If you like pop songs from your childhood, that's understandable nostalgia.
 
There is good rap music out there, but not very much of it, especially since about 2010.
I'd say rap was good or better before feminem hit the scenes. I've never seen the fad obsession with 2pac, but i can't deny that rap from the 80s and 90s had some soul and feel to it. Not the popular gangsta rap because that's pop music sold to niggers and wiggers, but the real rap.
 
Anyone over about 25 who still listens to Top 40 chart pop music* is extremely suspect. Either a severe case of arrested development or a sexual interest in teenagers.

There is no innovation, no creativity, no reason to listen to one punk band rather than another. And even that wouldn't be too bad if it weren't for the way punk fans think it's high art. It's not, it's simple music played by bad musicians for, there's really no other word that fits here, posers. Punk isn't music to listen to so much as it is music to be seen to listen to.
What specifically comes to mind with top 40s post-25 are all of the 30 going on 13 women that still consume all of the latest YA novels and/or film adaptations of said novels, still lust after teenage heartthrobs, and bathe in Axe for girls (Victoria's Secret body mist) from head to toe. Despite all of the music they've listened to over the years, they've hardly managed to find something they particularly like so they have to consume it all. The second thing that comes to mind are the gays, but they're always consuming mainstream pop.

I thought about some of the punk and punk-adjacent stuff I still like and I realized all of it took root between the ages of 14 and 22.
To me, top 40s and punk exist in the same sphere of aiding kids on their paths to finding themselves. They consume all available media looking for some place to fit in or finding some way to voice their angst from the most emotionally charged time in their lives. Looking back on that media is nostalgic, but it's only a red flag when they don't grow out of it. Like the punk musicians that moved on to new wave and pop and honed their craft, the listeners should grow out of the scene as well. It's why it's so uncomfortable to see 50-something guys still doing Jackass stunts on stage when these older Tony Hawk's Pro Skater-tier bands go on tour.
I'd say rap was good or better before feminem hit the scenes. I've never seen the fad obsession with 2pac, but i can't deny that rap from the 80s and 90s had some soul and feel to it. Not the popular gangsta rap because that's pop music sold to niggers and wiggers, but the real rap.
Gangsta rap really pigeonholed the genre into a corner in my opinion. It doesn't feel as fun or as expressive as it did in the 80s or parts of the 90s and 00s because it's more of a vehicle for mainstream success and a way to flaunt that success once you get there. That narcissistic, braggadocios element is really off-putting.
 
The only two bands I find to be warning signs in general are Opeth and Radiohead. I don't even have a specific reason, I just find that I really don't need to talk to you if you like Opeth or Radiohead.

There's a couple more specific examples.

Any White who listens to Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick seems to be the go to rapper for Whites who deep down think Hip hop is "inner city garbage" but they don't want to seem "racist" so they have to come up with an example of a rapper whose music is somewhat palatable to them. No White who listens to Kendrick has any actual investment in the genre, nor do they listen to any other Hip hop aside from the handful of "crowd pleaser" songs they play at the high school football games. Blacks who listen to Kendrick are fine, but no blacks listen to Kendrick so the point is moot.

The swedish Ghost. There is no quicker way to tell me you are completely clueless and have zero taste than to tell me you listen to the swedish Ghost (the japanese or polish Ghosts are fine). I do have to add a very minor caveat in that Ghost is one of the only bands where I think it's fine to wear their merch even if you don't listen to them. Their music might be garbage, but the album art is usually pretty good.

On that note, non-hispanics wearing Misfits merch is a pretty big warning sign. Whether they listen to the Misfits or not. Hispanics can wear Misfits merch tho. Even if they don't listen to them (in fact it'd probably be better if they don't).

One big example that I find NOT to be a warning sign is anything that gets played a lot on top 40 radio. So think Taylor Swift, K-Pop, Beyonce, etc. The average audience for this kind of music is moms driving their kids to school. Yeah, there's some psychos on twitter, but they aren't representative of people in real life.
 
as a huge punk, death metal, and (albeit old-school) hip hop fan, this thread is hard to read.

Are we just listening to nationalistic classical songs and power metal, or what?

I also think that K-Pop and pop in general is just supposed to be fun and set the mood for gatherings and such. It’s as deep as a super-soaker fight, but those are still enjoyable.

Edit: I ‘member sitting with like 8 dudes in some shitty Honda coup bumping “California Gurls” shaking our fists out the sunroof going to the movies… good times.
 
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I'm inclined to agree but only if we're talking about:
A. people who listen to classical because they bought into the "classical gives you brain power" meme and not because they actually enjoy the music,
B. people into 20th century modernists
Reminds me that the first 2 incarnations of Doctor Who had a modernist soundtrack made by the BBC radiophonic workshop. At least it fit there because of how weird early Doctor Who was, but the BBC even shoe-horned that stuff into a documentary about Tolkien! It's surprising how Bongs put up with it.
 
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as a huge punk, death metal, and (albeit old-school) hip hop fan, this thread is hard to read.

Are we just listening to nationalistic classical songs and power metal, or what?
I think every band/genre that is supposed to appeal only to mentally retarded autistic psychopathic hipsters with no taste in music has an active thread here. Math checks out I suppose. I like everything but rap and country so my ire has been raised many times.
 
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