Imagine a world with the cultural freedom of the 90s, plus the will to uphold and defend this freedom. No mercy for wokism, or any ideology (Islamism etc.) which would compromise this freedom and its basic tenets. I believe such a world is possible and worth building.
You do realize the 2000s were the era of liberal smugness and the era of ammoral, athiest, technocrat secularism. Hyper progressivism was inevitable at that point. Missing those times is understandable, but the desire to return to those times is retarded, it's like a drug addict missing the early days of his addiction when he could do drugs and not ruin his life. Time goes forward, learn from the past and become better instead of trying to build something flawed.
I was pretty young at the time, but I remember being there for the atheist vs Christian debates on the Internet at large and while atheists were smug liberals, it was just Internet bants really. I don't think anyone but the most delusional or retarded of the bunch though this was anything but an of GWB's invasion of Iraq and the nonsensical war on terror (which didn't even go anywhere near where Osama Bin Laden was for some reason) the religious right was gung-ho about, which also involved shit like the Patriot Act and formed the rudiments of cancel culture in cancelling the Dixie Chicks for being against the Iraq War (in addition to the ridiculous Clearwater censorship lists for radio and a bunch of other crazy bullshit the evangelical right pulled in the early 2000s involving untold amounts of censorship). It was with Occupy Wall Street and the 2008 recession that the modern wave of wokism emerged, specifically the progressive stacks they used to pull at them when the whole entire point was to show how corporations fucked all Americans out of a reasonable livelihood and savings. It was basically a divide and conquer strategy and it worked.
I generally agree that we live in a time of unprecedented global communication, material prosperity, and international commerce, and that all these things put the brakes on war. That said, smart people made all the same arguments right up until the outbreak of WW1. While it may have benefited arms manufacturers, some bankers, or black marketeers, the Great War was generally speaking a loss for all sides and a massive economic black hole for Europe. This book examines that dynamic in more detail:
You're as high as the duck in your profile picture if you think that kind of thing is possible in Current Year.
People on here underestimate how apathetic and tired the American populace is. When that FtM killed those people at that Christian school in Tennessee, everyone on here was acting like this would finally be the last straw and people would start taking the transgenders seriously and start fighting back against them. As if America hasn't seen hundreds of mass casualty shootings/terrorist attacks for years. They just want to keep their heads down, enjoy their lives and let what's left of the culture warriors die off.
You're right, it's not possible now. It probably won't be for a good long time. The point of this thread is to speculate on belief systems that could one day make it possible again.
If that day ever comes, it will be years from now and more than likely when everyone using this site is dead and gone. I agree with Glowie Hunter Art Bell, the current world system is far too deeply entrenched for anyone, especially not the incompetent social rejects that make up the right-wing now, to damage and/or replace it. People have it far too good under the current system to ever dream about replacing it with something different.
Even back in the 1990s when I was much more of a liberal, I've always known liberals as criminal and terrorist worshippers. And judging from media back in the 1960s, they've been like this for a long time.
