What does queer even mean?

[tangerine pigtails]

I generally use 'queer' to mean anyone who is lesbian, bisexual or gay. Nowadays, the fact that there's a 'Q' added to the acronym is bullshit, though, because it's not its own thing. There are people who refuse to identify with a sexuality, and just say they're queer. You're one of those three, stop trying to act like you're something separate/special.

I also have always viewed the term as something LGB people use amongst themselves and each other, and it was always positive in that sense. Now, it's associated with these SJW assholes, and the term is skewered to hell and back (not to mention the idea that if you're "queer", you have no personality outside of that). That's more of a personal sidenote, but it just really pisses me off that they've taken it for themselves and now that's what the word is associated with.

 

[Drunk and Pour]

Who knows. Queer is a very strange word.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

because of the fact he didn't like hunting or football and was vocal about both

...sounds like a bit of a faggot tbh.

 

[Not an_ime g_irl]

Bloodhound Gang - I Wish I Was Queer So I Could Get Chicks

youtu.be

 

[Recoil]

Bloodhound Gang - I Wish I Was Queer So I Could Get Chicks

youtu.be

I wondered if that song could be read as a reflection of the then growing trend of deprecating masculinity in pop culture.
Or... if you could read it as "Sex sells, but you need to emasculate yourself to buy it." Like a cynical overarching condemnation of the compromises relationships demand we all make.

 

[Clop]

It's a song by Garbage.

 

[Vorhtbame]

Using the word "queer" is basically like when a movie includes a deeply unfunny gag, and then all the action stops and the actors look straight at the camera, daring the audience to complain that it wasn't funny. "See, we know it's not funny. We know what we did. That excuses it. That makes it an artistic choice instead of autistic drivel." Which is a stupid excuse, but enough people are willing to buy into it so as to sound smart and cultured compared with the "haters".

Basically, it's an open admission to something being off, and they're daring anyone, everyone, to point it out, at which point they'll fall back on some stupid excuse most people are willing to buy so as to sound smart and cultured compared with the "haters".

And this applies equally to all self-described queers, including the perfectly straight ones.

 

[kadoink]

Used to mean "Strange" but it had a dual meaning of also being gay. Heres an instance of it in cinema being used properly in both definitions.(intentionally)

 

[BONE_Buddy]

You kind of glossed over the usage popular among just rednecks, where it was a synonym (or intensifier) for "faggot",

You are right. Of course, I should have included that in my summary. I would posit however, that if we transliterate the example you gave using synonyms. We might have a clearer line of attack.

faggoty queer

becomes "effeminate weirdo." It would not translate well as "gay gay."

Just pointing out that when queer is being used as a derogatory, it does not substitute well for calling someone gay.

I have now put way to much thought into this.

 

[Silence of the Troons]

In its woke form, it means absolutely nothing, and yet it also gives you sexuality/"gender" oppression points. That's why heterosexual diversity advocates who aren't simply satisfied with supporting LGBT people but actually wish to become part of it all love the word. "I wear weird make-up and I kind of feel like a man on Wednesdays, I am now part of the LGBBQ club"

The person is gay or lesbian and is trying to walk that back for whatever reason. Sometimes they do it for career reasons (Lee Pace giving his female fans some false hope they'd have a chance). Sometimes they do it to avoid trans harassment. Some lesbians call themselves "queer" as a hedge against being terfed.

This has actually become a problem in some places. In Liberalol land of Portland, Oregano, there is not a single lesbian bar; just bars and events for female kweers, not-straight-men and female-identified folks. (By contrast, there are eight gay bars) https://www.wweek.com/culture/2016/...bian-bars-a-new-minefield-of-sexual-politics/

One of the women who were interviewed and who tried to host an event for lesbians outright says that the reason the event eventually was folded was that a bunch of gender specials constantly showed up and complained because it wasn't "inclusive" enough.

Emily Stutzman, 31, tried to create a space for lesbians. It ended poorly.
A producer for a Portland ad agency, Stutzman says she couldn't find places in the city to hang out with other lesbians after moving here from Indiana in 2008.
In 2014, after ending a romantic relationship, an unsettling thought struck her: "How do I find somebody else?"
So that year she decided to create her own social gathering for lesbians, calling it Fantasy Softball League, a winking nod to stereotypes about lesbians. The "league" had nothing to do with softball, and instead was a monthly meet-up at Vendetta, a bar on North Williams Avenue.
"Hey ladies," an ad beckoned. "Cool girls, drinking cool drinks in a cool bar, talking about cool stuff."
But all was not cool.
In summer 2015, Stutzman, who has wavy red hair and wears an enameled "I Love Cats" pin on her jean jacket, recalls walking through Vendetta greeting people when someone she'd never met—someone who didn't identify with traditional female conventions like the pronoun "she"—confronted her.
"The person was hostile, and wanting to pick a fight," Stutzman recalls. "This person was offended and said they would tell their friends that we were a group of people that were non-inclusive and not respectful of their gender."
The person—Stutzman never got a name—left the event, and Stutzman was left feeling confused. As she looked around, she saw many people who fell between male and female. She thought her event was inclusive, even if the vernacular wasn't.
"What we wanted to say is, if you're a straight dude, don't come to this event," she says. "Everyone else was fine."
Stutzman adjusted her language, no longer calling Fantasy Softball League a lesbian event. Instead, she called it an event for queer women. But even with the change, Stutzman still worried.
"Everything I tried, someone was offended," she says. "It got weird and political, and I wanted it to be a fun thing."
That fall, Stutzman handed responsibility for the event to Alissa Young, who renamed the event Gal Pals, relocated it to the Florida Room on North Killingsworth Street, and ran into more trouble. Some people took offense at the event's new feminine name.
So Young folded the event. Now she mourns the loss: "Can't we have spaces that are just for lesbians?"

 

[Ali della Fenice]

It also means you post on kiwifarms regularly.
Simply awful.

 

[Lemmingwise]

...sounds like a bit of a faggot tbh.

Nah, a faggot is a guy who won't join you in beating up the queers.

 

[Drunk and Pour]

I want Disney to go full retard woke and for Phase 4 have Dr. Strange come out as Dr. Queer. It would win an Oscar.

Edit: I love that the auto-reword of retard kept the slash-through.

 

[Lifeguard Hermit]

The herbs, queebs, and quays tell me that being queer is the new way, the progressive way to be.