What if I just don't have anywhere to live?

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TexNash said:
You can. Just don't get caught.
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I'm considering it, but remaining stealth seems like more than it's worth (eg; can't have electricity, avoid CCTV). I'll ask around and see if it's some sort of under-the-table agreement between you and management.
 
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Then you become homeless, and then you'll be homeless for a little and realize "You know this isn't as bad as I thought it would be" and you'll have a sudden realization that given how much a lot of people hate their jobs today and how isolated they are (hobos are virtually never alone) combined with the excesses of society and sacrifices involved to own property, a lot of people might genuinely be way happier just being hobos.
 
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Uberpenguin said:
Then you become homeless, and then you'll be homeless for a little and realize "You know this isn't as bad as I thought it would be" and you'll have a sudden realization that given how much a lot of people hate their jobs today and how isolated they are (hobos are virtually never alone) combined with the excesses of society and sacrifices involved to own property, a lot of people might genuinely be way happier just being hobos.
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...and then winter hits....
 
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Wormy said:
...and then winter hits....
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It's called getting a wall tent you nerds, a good one. And then people come up and are all "Wahh, wahh, you can't have your wall tent in the parking lot". So you keep driving out to the forest and you start staying there. Despite being pretty deserty it's still cold. Solution? You need a mass of heat. What better than a car engine? So you run the truck outside the tent, drive the cab in, shut off, drop the side down behind the cab, and let the radiant heat of the engine block keep the small area of the tent warm. But what about the area below the chassis? So you rig up another piece of canvas that unfolds from the area behind the cab, under the frame, to keep the draft out. Instant mass heater. Maybe rig up a method to recirculate heat, like those stove induction fans. then you get your fire pit outside the tent, but to move the heat inside you need some fire rock. But you ain't got not fire rock, every rock around is wet and liable to explode in heat. Or do what I did, make a big thermal mass around a fire with the high clay content, basically a big mound around the fire. Knock down a segment of tent near it. Cook it up the mass good over the afternoon. Come evening put the main fire out, keep some coals, reextend the tent over where the fire is. Between the heat of the block and the mass, it's hitting 15-20 at night but you're pretty comfy. But now you need furniture, preferably disposable. Luckily the USFS let's you cut up down logs, and there's a good slash pile. So you spend a couple days cutting notch benches, make a rudimentary bed to replace the cot, consider going from electrical conduit poles to wood poles for the tent. Try to cut a bowl with the chainsaw tip for washing yourself, fail horribly. Make a chew run into town for some cope. Grab some more coffee for the moka pot.

*Spits a brown slug on the ground*
 
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When I was gonna do a grow op in one, I asked how they know if someone left the light on in one. And they say they just look. No electrical monitoring. So you could get away with a lot probably. Tent, sleeping bag and sleeping pad. But even if you pull it off, not being in a place with running water, bathroom, etc is disgusting. Find some place with rent you can manage that isn't insanely far from a job and/or school. Get shit together etc
 
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Then you would be homeless. Just go to your local social services office and whine to them. The cat ladies might be able to set you up with something. White males don't get much in the way of bennies but if you are homeless, it raises your status a bit with big daddy government. Not a whole lot though because you are still a white male. Everyone knows all white people are rich. Just tell them you are homeless and they will set you up. I know you can get 90 days worth of food stamps. Maybe more if you are homeless.
Uberpenguin said:
Then you become homeless, and then you'll be homeless for a little and realize "You know this isn't as bad as I thought it would be" and you'll have a sudden realization that given how much a lot of people hate their jobs today and how isolated they are (hobos are virtually never alone) combined with the excesses of society and sacrifices involved to own property, a lot of people might genuinely be way happier just being hobos.
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Like I always say. No one works for fun. People work to support themselves and with the rising cost of living and decline in wages it's not surprising that more people are saying fuck working for peanuts I will just be homeless.

They should all make homeless camps like the camp from RDR2 and sing songs around a campfire. They could sing Ring Dang Doo.
 
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There's gonna be more and more hobo-ing in the coming years. If you think shit is bad now, just wait a while. Get out of the cities. Get a good pack, sleeping swag, tent, traveling cooking utensils, a good knife, and a good set of boots. There's more wilderness out there than you think. You just have to be smart about it. Always be looking out for rangers and cops. Pick up seasonal work; fruit picking and shit. Donate semen, blood, do drug trials. What ever you can find. If you can, move to a state where you can carry a long gun. Lots of small game to be had. If you see an opportunity to steal some food, do it. Supermarkets and warehouses sometimes have pallets stacked up outside. Get yourself some hi-visibility clothes, walk up like you belong there, crack open a pallet when you can. Soup and beans for days. If you're feeling adventurous, do some prospecting. Learn how to pan. Become a rock hound and find amethyst and other gem stones. There are all sorts of off the grid hustles out there.
 
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I remember when I lived in an expensive city I considered just going to jail. The living accommodations were better, no basement without sunlight, no chinese landlord, and most importantly a toilet of my own without having to share it with Indians that constantly shit clumps of shit on the seat. Oh and you didn't have to pay rent.
 
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In the sci-fi novel Snow Crash, the economy has completely collapsed and the personal storage units in the giant warehouse parks of LA have been converted into ad hoc apartments for the poorest people in society. The demand for these were so high that rent quickly skyrocketed until they too were unaffordable. Residents live crammed together in windowless rooms, children play around with torched cars and discarded needles, and legends of radioactive waste still contained in a unit somewhere deep in the facility are spread.
 
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Crysocyan said:
I'm considering it, but remaining stealth seems like more than it's worth (eg; can't have electricity, avoid CCTV). I'll ask around and see if it's some sort of under-the-table agreement between you and management.
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You can find units that have electricity in them; Look for the keyword "workshop" in the storage unit listings. Granted my experience with this wasn't in freedomland.


In college I spent three months living out of a storage unit to save money. It sucks ass but can be done if you're careful. Learn when and where the caretaker for the property does his checks. Make sure you have a broken lock that looks closed on first glance you can leave on the outside door to avoid being locked in. Get used to insects, you'll be seeing a lot of them.
 
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