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What incels get wrong about women​

The Pope is Catholic, bears shit in the woods, and new research shows that “men who identify as incels overestimate how much women want physical attractiveness and financial success” in a partner while underestimating the importance of traits such as kindness, humour and loyalty.

Forgive my sarkiness – but I don’t think we needed a study to prove that incels’ barometer for what women want is somewhat wonky. Any woman who has tuned in for any length of time to the incel philosophy (not to mention any straight woman trying to date) would have been able to tell you as much.

Short for “involuntary celibate”, the term incel has myriad connotations, ranging from risible stereotypes to the downright terrifying (incel ideologies have been cited in manifestos for mass killings, although the report suggests the ideology isn’t the main motivation).

Whatever end of the spectrum they fall on, incel beliefs boil down to a simple equation: women owe them sex, but they aren’t delivering. Never does it seem to occur to these men that it’s their attitude towards women that’s the problem – and reason no one wants to date them – rather than their looks or their money.

Not only do women remain with men during difficult financial periods, but also research shows that more and more US women are the breadwinners in their relationships. It’s also worth mentioning that, quite opposite from seeking the most handsome men, one study suggests women are happier with less attractive husbands.

Anecdotally, when it comes to long-term partnership, a sense of humour and thoughtfulness go much further than looks – my boyfriend is gorgeous, obviously, but I love him much more when he cooks a surprise dinner or makes me laugh than when he’s done 20 extra push-ups.

Despite this, incel communities instead discuss frightening ideas like state-mandated girlfriends as serious solutions to their predicament, believing that it would save them from the whole ordeal of dating (which would force them to treat women as human beings!). Why won’t anyone date me?! cry these guys, as they put their finishing touches to a manifesto for keeping women in cages. Truly, a mystery for the ages.

For a worldview that rails against the injustices faced by single, straight men, incel-dom sure does a good job of keeping them that way. The idea that women are only interested in the most preternaturally chiselled men and their bulging bank accounts must fill any guy who falls below the impossible (imaginary) standard with self-pity.

Women (or “foids”, short for “female humanoids” on incel forums), meanwhile, are seen as vapid idiots at best, and sex-slot-machines – into which you just have to pour the right amount of money and/or abs in order to cash out – at worst.

It’s hard not to feel frustrated by this state of affairs, partly because it seems so easy to straighten out; women have been writing books and articlescountering these toxic arguments, as well as offering more realistic accounts of what we’re actually looking for in male partners.

Sure, nice jawlines and money don’t hurt – but the idea that that’s what’s stopping an incel from getting a daterather than the frustration and resentment radiating from his every pore seems pretty convenient on the one hand, and totally self-defeating on the other.

With such a brutal understanding of interpersonal relationships, it’s perhaps no surprise that the study from the University of Swansea reveals incel mental health to be in staggeringly poor shape.

Hatred often comes from unhappiness, and I’d be depressed too if I felt as if the world was configured in such a way as to make my personal fulfilment impossible.

But the good news is that however dark the incel worldview might seem, it is a fantasy. Hopefully this new study, conducted by Dr Andrew Thomas and masters student William Costello will encourage incels to see women as human beings.

Say it with me: women don’t care about your cheekbones, we want to be seen as full human beings. That might not sound like much to ask, but it should be revelatory for the guys who are too busy griping about their facial structure to see the altogether simpler – and far more meaningful – truth. If it takes a study by a man to get that ball rolling, then so be it.
 
I really like that for 10 years, feminists told me that men aren't allowed to have an opinion on abortion because "no uterus, no opinion". And then BLM activists screeched at anyone that told them to stop having an apoplectic fit every time a cop so much as looks in their general direction because "YOU DON'T KNOW MY STRUGGLE REEEEEEE". Yet journoscum get to write these patronizing articles femsplaining to men all day long, and it's just dandy.
 
It mostly is that. I'm not being snarky when I say this, they need to drop the pity party shit, stop deluding themselves into thinking there's some "reckoning" coming, and fix their lives themselves because no one else is going to help them.
Except this goes beyond unfuckable neckbeards being entitled creeps. People are lonelier than ever. Even Chads and Stacies. Fewer and fewer people have close friends, have sex, enter relationships, or get married. And it's taking its toll.

I don't know what the solution to it is, but it's not the worn-out boomerism of "just pull yourself up by the bootstraps".
 
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Married men contribute more in taxes than unmarried men of similar age, education, race, and location. Your literally talking about gutting the major tax base of every nation on earth, and somehow that isn't a problem? On hand I agree with you, less money for women and minority programs. On the other hand, that's a lot of civil wars.
Sounds like we need an incel tax to me.
 
Because they need White men and not Shaniquah and Heather of the Two Mommies to go die for Israel/prevent Russia/China from upsetting the Petrodollar order
No Russian/Chinaman/Persian ever called me "domestic extremist".

Why kill them when everybody I hate lives here? I need a better reason to get cucked by Jody, PTSD, and suicidal thoughts than "some faggots in Washington said so".

If I'm gonna end human lives, and thereby sell my soul, they better make it worth my while.
 
What's the point of articles dunking on incels?

Incels are probably the single most hated demographic in society. Normies hate and gear incels more than terrorists and nigger rapists and murderers.
It's weird because the obvious incel -> tranny pipeline would suggest they ought to hate trannies for basically the same reason (they're autistic, antisocial, perverted etc.) but for some reason once an incel starts claiming to be a woman bam they start commanding inordinate amounts of power.
 
Except this goes beyond unfuckable neckbeards being entitled creeps. People are lonelier than ever. Even Chads and Stacies. Fewer and fewer peoole have close friends, have sex, enter relationships, or get married. And it's taking its toll.

I don't know what the solution to it is, but it's not the worn-out boomerism of "just pull yourself up by the bootstraps".

The solution is to bring back Jenga night.
 
I've seen somehow attractive local women marry ugly looking Latinos who aren't particularly smart or rich. But they compensate with personality.

But, otoh, this is more prominent among couples between 30 and 50.
 
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Except this goes beyond unfuckable neckbeards being entitled creeps. People are lonelier than ever. Even Chads and Stacies. Fewer and fewer peoole have close friends, have sex, enter relationships, or get married. And it's taking its toll.

I don't know what the solution to it is, but it's not the worn-out boomerism of "just pull yourself up by the bootstraps".
Then those people are going to have to pull themselves up or get their suicide plan together. Society does not care about losers and never will. If you're going to say something about these virgins going postal, countries have been dealing with that kind of thing for decades now, it's no longer a big deal.
 
Since the dawn of time, it's been significantly harder for men to get laid (voluntarily) than women, hence the double standard.

Sitting around complaining and feeling sorry for yourself just makes it worse.
 
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Then those people are going to have to pull themselves up or get their suicide plan together. Society does not care about losers and never will. If you're going to say something about these virgins going postal, countries have been dealing with that kind of thing for decades now, it's no longer a big deal.
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this goes beyond unfuckable neckbeards being entitled creeps. People are lonelier than ever. Even Chads and Stacies.
Hackneyed boomerisms like yours will have dire consequences that plague the human race for generations to come.
 
Honestly, I think a big part of the incel issue is that women don't bring anything to the table in a relationship outside of sex nowadays. In the past, a woman would have an actual personality, interests in addition to house/money management skills and/or they were well-educated in addition to being physically attractive and bringing sex to the table to boot. Nowadays, that's non-existent in women due to them overestimating their worth in terms of how they ought to be perceived despite having a lack of a real personality,housekeeping skills or really anything that would want a man to be around a woman barring looks (and even then those decline with time and often the result of a shitton of makeup/filters) and just being raised very poorly by parents that don't know what they are doing because they aren't taught these skills. This leads to them having unrealistic standards for the type of men they want to be in a relationship with and hence leads to a lot of normal functioning men who WOULD be in a relationship not getting anything or protracted periods of time.


I just came to this conclusion just listening to and watching a lot of the girls at my church. They really have nothing to offer a man past their looks and the like. If you really think about it, association with most women nowadays is a liability rather than a boon and it shows in the dating scene. Fundamentally, women shape the dating pool and it's not the incel's fault it's so fucked up (I can only really blame the more violent and subhuman ones for being violent and unhinged towards women, but even then, those types are the minority. You're average incel is your average guy who in times past, would either be married or in a long term relationship with a woman by the time he hits his mid to late 20s). It's the fault of the people guiding society for falling for a bunch of short-sighted, small-minded schemes to increase productivity and efficiency of labor at the expense of the long-term stability of society and women for falling for this shit and not seeing how dumb it is.

This isn't rocket science. Even cavemen knew how to maintain and sustain societies and make accommodations to the common man so that he would seek its best interests, but the fact that we as a society can't do that and blame people that honestly aren't even responsible for their predicament is proof enough we live in Idiocracy.

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Then those people are going to have to pull themselves up or get their suicide plan together. Society does not care about losers and never will. If you're going to say something about these virgins going postal, countries have been dealing with that kind of thing for decades now, it's no longer a big deal.
No nation, not a one has dealt with population collapse and lived. Why do you think TPTB are so damn intent on importing third world workers?
 
A bigger pool of losers compared to previous generations is not a big deal. They'll screech loudly, die quietly, with little to no people to mourn them, and life will go on.
We have to import millions of foreigners in order to keep parity with birthrates which would naturally be around sustainable if the "losers" in question were actual mentally ill people or social rejects rather than the everyman or people that are just a bit eccentric but functional because of the large amounts of dysfunction in the dating scene, you dumb boomer nigger. That's like saying just because the Roman Legions have more Germanic mercenaries rather than native born Italians/Latins, the Roman Empire will still be sustainable and manage to function well despite the obvious as fuck problems being ignored getting worse. Protip: it didn't.

This short-sighted thinking got us to this place. Maybe we should stop doing that and fix actual problems in our nation instead of pretending they don't exist or thinking they'll fix themselves. I though America was full of people who were natural born problem solvers, then I grew up and realized most Americans are retarded and it was only a small handful of them that managed to make this country great (at one point anyway).
 
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