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The Keffals shit really did a number on that narrative lmao.

no, it didn't. the keffals-related drama was exclusive to threads about the persons of gender.
the refugee posts in 2019 and 2020, however, were the reason that the 'articles & news' subforum is now hidden from guests, and why registration temporarily closes after happenenings that make the headlines.
 
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the refugee posts in 2019 and 2020, however, were the reason that the 'articles & news' subforum is now hidden from guests, and why registration temporarily closes after happenenings that make the headlines.
No it isn't lmfao. The reason is because google was delisting the site or whatever due to people copy-pasting articles. Copyright bullshit as usual.
 
No it isn't lmfao. The reason is because google was delisting the site or whatever due to people copy-pasting articles. Copyright bullshit as usual.

that is true, but it's not the only reason. a&h has been an issue for years because the refugees are determined to try to enforce their ideologies and politics there, which is exactly why they're no longer allowed anywhere else. the only difference now is that their anger has shifted from black and brown people, jews, and liberals to the persons of gender. it's still all the same tiresome vitriol, though.

this is a thread by null discussing the problems with the autistic thunderdome, from june, 2022:

this is a thread by null discussing why he had to remove stickers from a&h, from november 2021:

this is a thread by null discussing the problems that a&h created with the fbi, from december 2020:

that thread was posted a day after this thread was posted, also from 2020:

and that thread was posted a day after this thread was posted, also from december 2020:
http://kiwifarms.net/threads/2020-12-03-fbi-inquiry-into-post-threatening-political-violence.80746/

this is a thread by null discussing the political shift in the community, from june 2020:

this is a thread by null discussing the third incarnation of a&h, and its issues, from september 2019:
 
the refugees are determined to try to enforce their ideologies and politics there, which is exactly why they're no longer allowed anywhere else. the only difference now is that their anger has shifted from black and brown people, jews, and liberals to the persons of gender. it's still all the same tiresome vitriol, though.
@Null Hate to tag you, but since you're the guy to ask on this, would you say the above statement is accurate?
 
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@Null Hate to tag you, but since you're the guy to ask on this, would you say the above statement is accurate?
It's pretty damn close to accurate; many people on the forums have come in "waves" - usually related to a particular forum/other gathering place being killed.

When r/thedonald went down there was a small influx, but they had already arranged for a separate safe space, so it wasn't entirely large

When various TERF boards were attacked/shutdown there was an influx of TERFs which Null attempted (with some success) to accommodate in the Beauty Parlor; it has an entirely different feel from the rest of the fourm.

There have also been excursions where people have created spin-offs, sometimes friendly, sometimes antagonistic.

It would be interesting to write out all the various "waves"; the ones above are only some of them I know of. The bigger the wave, the harder it is for the noobs to learn "the culture" and the harder it is for them to fit in with the rest of the forum. Lurking, of course, is the antidote. Anyone who registered the day they found the farms is likely a faggot.

A&H posters (those who ONLY post in the redboards) seem to be EXCEPTIONALLY weak to trolling, they get riled up over the lamest shit, and Dyn can troll them without even trying.

If you get trolled by Dyn, you're a newfag nigger, no exceptions.
 
It WAS Articles & News, but business is booming and we rebranded with the satellite subforum reorganization. I still fucj it up and use the old A&N sometimes.
 
It's pretty damn close to accurate; many people on the forums have come in "waves" - usually related to a particular forum/other gathering place being killed.

When r/thedonald went down there was a small influx, but they had already arranged for a separate safe space, so it wasn't entirely large

When various TERF boards were attacked/shutdown there was an influx of TERFs which Null attempted (with some success) to accommodate in the Beauty Parlor; it has an entirely different feel from the rest of the fourm.

There have also been excursions where people have created spin-offs, sometimes friendly, sometimes antagonistic.

It would be interesting to write out all the various "waves"; the ones above are only some of them I know of. The bigger the wave, the harder it is for the noobs to learn "the culture" and the harder it is for them to fit in with the rest of the forum. Lurking, of course, is the antidote. Anyone who registered the day they found the farms is likely a faggot.

A&H posters (those who ONLY post in the redboards) seem to be EXCEPTIONALLY weak to trolling, they get riled up over the lamest shit, and Dyn can troll them without even trying.

If you get trolled by Dyn, you're a newfag nigger, no exceptions.
If you look in the A&H meta thread, I was the guy arguing with my fellow retards across the aisle against increased moderation of A&H for ages. Null, as far as I can remember, was pretty open about the actual reason why - that it was getting the site fucked over for "plagiarism" because Google has a crawler or whatever that searches for reposted articles on websites, that marks a site as ripping off journos and deindexes it or whatever. Which is why I tagged him, because I don't want to misrepresent that if I am in fact wrong, but I'm %99.9 positive it really was just the plagiarism thing.

The whole "those damn nazis in A&H" thing has been a misrepresentation of the people who frequent that section for ages, btw. Most regulars are conservatives/libertarians with a sprinkling of hard left and right folks.

A&H wasn't hidden because of political reasons, if that were the case Happenings and to an extent the Mass Debates sections wouldn't be public. It's the same people, for the most part.
 
If you look in the A&H meta thread, I was the guy arguing with my fellow retards across the aisle against increased moderation of A&H for ages. Null, as far as I can remember, was pretty open about the actual reason why - that it was getting the site fucked over for "plagiarism" because Google has a crawler or whatever that searches for reposted articles on websites, that marks a site as ripping off journos and deindexes it or whatever. Which is why I tagged him, because I don't want to misrepresent that if I am in fact wrong, but I'm %99.9 positive it really was just the plagiarism thing.

The whole "those damn nazis in A&H" thing has been a misrepresentation of the people who frequent that section for ages, btw. Most regulars are conservatives/libertarians with a sprinkling of hard left and right folks.

A&H wasn't hidden because of political reasons, if that were the case Happenings and to an extent the Mass Debates sections wouldn't be public. It's the same people, for the most part.
Now that I know what A&H is, I think I can address this at least in part.

Google does not give a fuck about plagiarism. They won't ever ever ever show a Kiwifarms post as news. Newspapers who are into the Google news feed are pre accepted and reviewed, they push their articles into Google rather than wait for the crawl, because they need to be indexed faster than the regular website. Let's not even talk about being on the first page of regular news results, it would never happen.

This and a ton of other indicators, means that Google is able to detect authorship on some level when it comes to news, and they are able to detect patterns as to repeated offenders.

To add to this, if this was actually ever a real issue, he could have just blocked crawling for every thread on the board.

Imo, and I believe he might have addressed this on MATI, it's mostly that it's divise, derivative and a source of liability.

When it comes down to most cows, you don't see much arguing, or at least not the kind of vitriol that you see on polemic subjects. Fostering internal conflict does not contribute towards the good health of the site. People who actually like Kiwifarms do not want it to be right or left leaning, because it has fuck all to do with politics to begin with.

It's obviously derivative in the sense that this is not what the place is supposed to be. Obviously, it's good for engagement, and these days, we see a lot of cross overs with cowdom, but it's not something the site needs to exist.

It's a potential liability because people get very heated and end up saying stupid shit. When it's not some glow in the dark post, it's something so wrong or offensive that it end up being used against the site. This is what gets the site branded as White Nationalist, when it's anything but.
 
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Now that I know what A&H is, I think I can address this at least in part.

Google does not give a fuck about plagiarism. They won't ever ever ever show a Kiwifarms post as news. Newspapers who are into the Google news feed are pre accepted and reviewed, they push their articles into Google rather than wait for the crawl, because they need to be indexed faster than the regular website. Let's not even talk about being on the first page of regular news results, it would never happen.

This and a ton of other indicators, means that Google is able to detect authorship on some level when it comes to news, and they are able to detect patterns as to repeated offenders.

To add to this, if this was actually ever a real issue, he could have just blocked crawling for every thread on the board.

Imo, and I believe he might have addressed this on MATI, it's mostly that it's divise, derivative and a source of liability.

When it comes down to most cows, you don't see much arguing, or at least not the kind of vitriol that you see on polemic subjects. Fostering internal conflict does not contribute towards the good health of the site. People who actually like Kiwifarms do not want it to be right or left leaning, because it has fuck all to do with politics to begin with.

It's obviously derivative in the sense that this is not what the place is supposed to be. Obviously, it's good for engagement, and these days, we see a lot of cross overs with cowdom, but it's not something the site needs to exist.

It's a potential liability because people get very heated and end up saying stupid shit. When it's not some glow in the dark post, it's something so wrong or offensive that it end up being used against the site. This is what gets the site branded as White Nationalist, when it's anything but.
I'm just reiterating something he said ages ago, and going off of my experience having been there as part of the "A&H NEEDS TO GO!!!!11!!" discussions. Like I said the only definitive answer on this could come from Null, and other than what he's already said on the topic:


I haven't seen him explicitly say that those were ever the reason for doing it. This shit is a meme from the folks who legit think everyone who is a regular in A&H is some kind of hot-headed nazi, which is completely inaccurate.
 
When various TERF boards were attacked/shutdown there was an influx of TERFs which Null attempted (with some success) to accommodate in the Beauty Parlor; it has an entirely different feel from the rest of the fourm.
I came from mumsnet after they banned me for asking for feet pics to many times... those middle aged woman are real buzzkills...
 
After doing a deep multi-level meta-analysis of compilations of the behavior and general community standing of the users of the section, I can report with 95.9% certainty that A&H must stand for "Asperger's & Histrionics"
 
Articles & Happenings, also known as Articles & News. It’s where /pol/ rejects hang out. Even if you don’t read the threads you can see from the titles it’s all right wing outrage porn. Also the place I visit the least. If I wanted to see nazi incels sperg out over politics I’d go on twitter
 
If you didn't think you could troll KF, visit that place once...
 
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